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#672 Pauline Olsdatter widow looks like 6 minor children: Oslo skifterett, SAO/A-10383/G/Ga/Gaa/L0008: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1870-1874, p. 243b-244a Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081219320248 # 125 widow Pauline Olsd living on Lakkeg: Grønland prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10848/F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. 5, 1869-1880, s. 393 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921030523 http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/icon_go_up.gif

The Pauline who married Hans Johan Kristoffersen death # 146: Grønland prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10848/F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. 5, 1869-1880, s. 421 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921030553 She is also #726: Oslo skifterett, SAO/A-10383/G/Ga/Gaa/L0009: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1874-1878, p. 103b-104a Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081219320392 Their children are in the "poverty matters" database: Fattigvesenet, OBA/A-20045/H/Hd/L0002: Manntallsprotokoll. Mnr. 1-812, 1879-1887, s. 640 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/od19016000000640

Perhaps this Pauline born i 1829. Right side Kirkebøker: Rikshospitalet prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10309b/F/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1818-1832, s. 180-181 - Skanna arkiver - Arkivverket (digitalarkivet.no)

A Tree on Ancestry.com for this family. Hans Johan Christophersen 1836–1896 BIRTH 10 NOV 1836 • Kristiania, Oslo, Norge DEATH 23 JAN 1896 • Kristiania, Oslo, Norge Pauline Olsdatter 1833–1874 BIRTH 1833 • Kristiania, Oslo, Norge DEATH 19- MAI 1874 • Kristiania, Oslo, Norge Daughter in 1863 Maren Kristine Hansen 1863–1947 BIRTH 10 JULI 1863 • Kristiania, Oslo, Norge DEATH 21 JULI 1947 • Oslo, Norge https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/187252393/person/212443943527/facts

Pouline Lorentze Olesdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 NamePouline Lorentze Olesdatter GenderFemale Birth Date17. jun 1833 (17 Jun 1833) Baptism Date29. sep 1833 (29 Sep 1833) Baptism PlaceVestre Aker, Oslo, Akershus, Norway FatherOle Pedersen MotherThore Lorenzsdr FHL Film Number125850 Reference ID2:1N42003 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/11773734:60092?tid=&pid=&queryid=05d3e6b3-41bd-4d4f-b8f6-5acb93172d37&_phsrc=IlN1&_phstart=successSource

Noen som forstår hva dette betyr? https://www.nb.no/items/d5740d10f14c07ff4ae72bb72cc49400?page=37&searchText=Fornes

Coincides with this profile at Geni: https://www.geni.com/people/Pauline-Olsdatter/6000000073593831285 The manager of the profile also supplied matches in 1865 and 1875: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038027043391 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052055014408 (According to the manager, the match in 1875 is at Kroghstøtten).

Lüttikau/Lüttichau er også benyttet som etternavn i Norge og strengt tatt mener jeg siste bokstav i dåpsinnførselen like godt kan være en u. Det stemmer imidlertid dårlig med det navnet vedkommende senere ser ut til å ha benyttet.

I tried a random search on Folde. There are many matches from Aure prestegjeld, Møre og Romsdal. The writing in the christening record (1853) is unclear. I wonder if the text says not Ous, but Aure. One of the Sande parishes is also in Møre og Romsdal.

Tusen takk. Dette ble nyttig. Mvh Ove Gunnar

Pauline Olsdatter married to Hans Christoffersen gave birth to the child Valborg on the third of March 1874. There is no information about where they were living at the time in the christening register. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921060698 The first entry in the pauper books is dated 09th of November 1875, at which time Pauline Olsdatter was dead. I believe she may be the Pauline Olsdatter, born 1933, living at Lakkegaden 50, who died of Pneumonia on the 19th of May 1874. According to the records she was a widow, but this may be an error. If the authoroties could not get hold of the husband, they may have thought she had been abandoned - and I've seen other abandoned wives listed as widows. The original meaning of the Norwegian word 'Enke' is actually a woman living by herself. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921030523 Moving only a few blocks was quite common in Christiania.

Takk for hjelpa med denne. Fin kommentar. Dette var mora til Christopher Hornsrud

Some of the matches below belong to this couple: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&firstname=Hans&lastname=Christophers*&birth_year_from=&birth_year_to=&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=1863&event_year_to=1880&event_date=&related_first_name=Pauline&related_last_name=Ols*&related_birth_year=&sort=rel This Pauline Olsdtr died before 1875, and their children are mentioned in the records of Christiania Fattigvæsen.

According to the geography-menue in scanned ministerial books, there is Sande prestegjeld in Vestfold and Møre og Romsdal. And the only Os prestegjeld is Os in Hordaland. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb/browse

Ein kan finne bilbrev i ekstrarettsprotokollane ,tingbøker og notarialprotokollar. Det fins register til bilbrev for Sunnhordland som er laga ved Statsarkivet i Bergen. Statsarkivet i Stavanger har alfabetiske register over bilbrev frå Ryfylke og Karmsund sorenskriver samt frå Stavanger byfogdembete. Eg kjenner ikkje til slike register frå Hardanger. Bergen byarkiv skal også ha noko her: https://www.bergenbyarkiv.no/oppslagsverket/2009/01/15/bilbrev/ No er vi helst eit rådgjevande forum, men då det ikkje er så store filer, så legg eg dei for Sunnhordland her. (Og så skal eg undersøke mulighetene for å få det publisert alle tre i Digitalarkivet) Bilbrev Sunnhordland - database.pdf Bilbrev Sunnhordland 1861-1888.pdf

Kanskje det hadde vore ein ide å finna etterkomarar av denne Amalie, kanskje nokon der veit?

Hazel Carson Census • United States Census, 1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ5N-6GG https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/GJG2-8SZ Hazel Carlsen Census • United States Census, 1930 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4J4-5W8

Hazel Hjördes Carsen in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 NameHazel Hjördes Carsen Baptism Age0 Record TypeBaptism Birth Date17 Jan 1918 Baptism Date14 Apr 1918 Baptism PlaceBrooklyn, New York, USA FatherCarl Rudolph Carsen MotherAnna Höye Church NameZion Lutheran Church LocationBrooklyn, New York https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4460719:60722

Hazel J Carlson in the California, U.S., Divorce Index, 1966-1984 NameHazel J Carlson Spouse NameGilbert A Knight LocationLos Angeles DateMar 1976 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/5091940:1141

Søkte på Bilbrev i Arkivverket. Kanskje noe der? https://www.arkivverket.no/sok?q=Bilbrev

Det er innført som eit døypenamn, altså (3.) førenamn. Vi kan legge merke til at det er ü, ikkje u. (Presten markerer u med ein strek/boge over, sjå gut nr.60 Laurits og jente nr.59 Thorunn) Det kan tyde på at det var eit etternamn, og at det ikkje hadde norsk opphav. Det var neppe snakk om slektskap. På denne tida var det nokså vanleg å kalle opp nokon ved å ta etternamnet deira som førenamn. Sjå nest siste ledd om "det den i enkelte Distrikter almindelig herskende Uskik", https://www.hoelseth.com/doc/cirk18970901.html Politiet må ha misoppfatta namnet ...

Supert! Mange takk for hjelpen. Jeg er temmelig sikker på at Torø var fra Blakar, bl.a i skattelista "Rosstjeneste" 1662 heter det at Morten Hoft "Bruger 3 schind" (eier i Hoft) og "indberger" 1 1/2 hud i Frisvold i Romsdalen. Dette var Munkættas gods, og Torøs arv etter foreldrene på Blakar. mvh jan w

Takk for tips. Det gikk fint!

Just to add: I think the ‹nickname› Helgehølkattune could translate to The Helgehøl Cats (Sounds like a baseball team, but . . . 😉) Which explains the «irony» he didn't have. According to the text. 🙂 Reg.

Rus et al, I beg to differ. Scientifically, all genealogical connections need to be proven. Merely stating you are in possession of proof is not enough. In order to make a valid scientific conclusion, the very same proof has to be presented, furthermore, presented accompanied by a sound argument. At the same time, there are legit concerns the very same proof claimed (results from an analysis of a DNA sample, provided the sample can be proven to have been submitted by an identifiable person), may be subject to protection through privacy laws, thus making a presentation legally difficult in this thread. So, I hold that the claim "The DNA does not lie." is highly problematic. It is blunt and categorical, thus hiding all the conditions needing to be present before even making use of a single person's DNA results as an element in an argumentation, furthermore defying all sound skepticism presented in the debate so far. Conclusion: Nothing pertaining DNA in this debate is scientifically proven, to date. Best regards, Are