[#18514] Nordkvelde Mellem Hedrum - translation

[Gjest jeff erickson]

I believe the following is from the Hedrum Bygdebok p690. Can someone translate it for me please.Skiftet efter Ole viste 55 spd i netto og det nenes av dyr: 1 vallak 12år - 10 spd,2 kuer - 20 spd , 1 stutt - spd 60 skill Av losoret: Kakekelovn - 8spd , vannkvern 8spd... Engebret ....bodde på gården, men moren hadd bygselen... Enken Maren Jacobsdtr. hadde gården til 1830. Da ble bygelsen på dene halvdel av Nordkvelle Mell. delt mellom hennes nest eldste sonn Jacob Olsen og hennes sonnesson Peder Engebretsen... Peder Engebretsen ..... på 1/4 hel gården.Jordavgiften var 2spd. 18 skill. årlig og 3 lester kull til verket, 6 lester når moren dode. Bodde sammen farbroren... (Han var ungkar , og eide bl. a. part i en

[Gjest Jan Peter Wiborg]

Hmmm, I'll give it a try, but it was not easy.... :-) The probate after Ole showed 55 spd net value, and of animales are mentioned: 1 gelding 12 yrs - 10 spd, 2 cows - 20 spd, 1 bullock - spd 60 skill Of movable properties: tile stove - 8 spd, watermill 8 spd... Engebret ....lived on the farm, while the mother had the lease... The Widow Maren Jacobsdatter had the farm until 1830. The lease of this half part of 'Nordkvelle Mell.' was then splitted between her oldest but one son Jacob Olsen and her grandson (Engebrets son) Peder Engebretsen... Peder Engebretsen ..... on 1/4 whole farm. The land tax was 2 spd. 18 skill. yearly and 3 'lester' coal for the mill, 6 'lester' when the mother died. Lived with his father's brother.... (He was a bachelor , and owned among other things part ia a

[Gjest Jan Peter Wiborg]

...should read:'owned among other things part in a

[Gjest jeff erickson]

JanThank you It helps greatly.I have noticed that the word Treschow appears at serveral farms. Is Treschow a person ( no first name or a government or churchThanks again Jeff

[Gjest Berit M Gaarder]

Treschow is a family name. This family is a big landowner in the area around Larvik.Berit

[Gjest Jan Peter Wiborg]

Treschow is a person (last name), it looks to be a family name in the Larvik area i Vestfold. I saw one Fredrik Wilhelm Treschow on 'Laurvigs Grevskab'. It looks to be a noble/rich family...Jan

[Gjest Jeff Erickson]

Jan/BeritThanks

[Gjest jeff erickson]

... Enken Maren Jacobsdtr. hadde gården til 1830. Da ble bygelsen på dene halvdel av Nordkvelle Mell. delt mellom hennes nest eldste sonn Jacob Olsen og hennes sonnesson Peder Engebretsen... The Widow Maren Jacobsdatter had the farm until 1830. The lease of this half part of 'Nordkvelle Mell.' was then splitted between her oldest but one son Jacob Olsen and her grandson (Engebrets son) Peder EngebretsenThe translation [2] says half part was leased by her oldest but one son Jacob.She had 3 sons - 1 Engebret ca 1775 , 2. Jan Hans f 1778 and Jacob f 1796. Her oldest but one son would have been Jan Hans. Is this right? - Jacob is 21 years younger than Engebret

[Gjest Arnstein Rønning]

Hi Jeff! My grandchildren are descendents of Lars Jacobsen Nordkvelde Mellem (1730-1784). Is this the same family as 'your' Maren Jacobsdatter? (I have not done much research on this family).Mh Arnstein Rønning

[Gjest jeff erickson]

Hi Arnstein.The families are related by marriage. My Maren Jacobsd was the daughter of Jacob Hansen at Nordvkelde Mellem Br nr 6/7. She married Ole Engebretsen and the children were1. Engebret 2. Jan Hans f 1778 3. Jacob 4 Marte 5 Gunhild f 1789 6 Helvig ?1816.Jacob (3) became bruker of Nordkvelde Meelem Br nr 5/9 1830-1884. He married Mari Jacobsd from Moen u/ Rimstad. She lived 1805-1882.Mari Jacobsd was the daughter of Jacob Larsen who was born at Nordkvelde Mellem Br nr 1 in 1772 and was a husmann at Moen u/Rimstad. Jacob was the 4th child of Lars Jacobsen and Maren Olsdatter.Lars was from Kveldsvik u/Vestby. Maren Olsdatter was a widow when he married her. She died aged 80 in 1807I would be interested in how your family fits in. Best Wishes Jeff Erickson

[Gjest jeff erickson]

see [8] I have found an entry in the church records (Family search christening records - source kirkebok batch c423501) which show Jacob Olsen, son of Ole Ingelbrechen christened 1784. This would seem more likely than 1796. The bygdebok Br. nr 5 shows 1796. Which is correct?

[Gjest Arnstein Rønning]

Now I have looked more closely at the other topics that you have started here, and there are a lot of other farms 'in common' too, such as: Eftang Mellem, Stålåker, Østby, Gjone Store, Vestby, Holm, Refsholt, Hem, Klåstad, Håkestad and Bårnes.By the way, I have borrowed bygdebok for Tjølling, so if there is anything you want me to look up now during Christmas time, just ask.

[Gjest Jeff Erickson]

Arnstein, Thank you for your offer. It seems that i may share some common ancestors with your grandchildren. My ancestors seemed to come from Lardal. Hedrum and Tjolling and then Larvik and off to the world. If I can be of any help please contact me at ericj@adam.com.au and I will share what I have. I now have nearly 800 names and details on my database. Perhaps you can help with my more recent ancestors. My grandfathers family lived in Larvik. The 1900 census showed him at 18 Strand Gade. He came to Australia in 1913 but I been unable to trace the others - Anna b1882, Berthe b 1883, Hilda b 1885, Petra b 1890, Christian b 1893 (my g/f), Orense b 1895.Best wishes Jeff Erickson