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[#41763] Modum 1801 census Kæmperud farm


Gjest Mary Ellen Peterson
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Gjest Mary Ellen Peterson

Does anyone have information on ancestors of Lars Andersen b.1860 and Ingeborg Handsd. b.1866? They were married 18 Oct 1792 in Modum and living on Kæmperud farm in Modum in the 1801 census. Thank You.

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Gjest Alf Thore Skinstad

Hei.Jeg kan ikke skrive på engelsk, men jeg håper at det er noen som kan oversette dette for meg.Lars Andersen er omtalt i boka til Leif Hellerud, 'Folk og boplasser i Vestre Sponefjerdingen', men den sier ikke noe om forfedrene til han.'Det har fra gammelt av vært fire husmannsplasser under Komperud kapellandgård, og to av disse er Støaplassene. Disse ligger ved den gamle veien fra Komperud ned til Drammenselva. Disse Støaplassene er gamle. Man må tilbake til 1600 årene for å finne de første beboerene her nede.I 1786 var Lars Andersen her på Nedre Komperudstøa. Hans kone var Karen Abrehamsen. De fikk sønnen Anders, men både Karen Abrehamsen og sønnen Anders døde snart, og Lars Andersen ble senere gift med Ingeborg Hansdatter.De fikk i 1793 en sønn og også han fikk navnet Anders, etter bestefaren. I 1795 fikk de sønnen Hans, også oppkalt etter sin bestefar. I 1796 fikk de Sille. I 1802 fikk dem Johanne, 1805 Jens, 1808 Lars og i 1814 Kirsten.Lars Andersen var her til han døde i 1818, 56 år gammel.'Etter Lars Andersen's død var det dattera Sille (død i 1848)og mannen hennes, Arne Amundsen, som overtok denne husmannsplassen. Dem hadde 4 barn.Alf.

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Gjest Kjell Halvorsen

The previous writer claims he does not master the English language in writing, and asks for help from others to translate. Here we go:Lars Andersen is mentioned in the book by Leif Hellerud, 'Folk og boplasser i Vestre Sponefjerdingen' but it does not mention his ancestors in specific.“For a long time there has been four cotters farms subordinated the Komperud curate farm, of which two where Støaplassene. They are situated by the old road leading from Komperud down to the river of Drammenselva. Støaplassene dates from 17th century, when the first settlers arrived.In 1786 Lars Andersen was living at one of these cotters farms, Nedre Komperudstøa, along with his wife Karen Abrehamsen. Their son Anders was born, but both Karen Abrehamsen and son Anders died early, and Lars Andersen was later married to Ingeborg Hansdatter.In 1793 a son of Anders and Ingeborg was named Anders, after his grandfather. In 1795 their son Hans was born, also named after his grandfather. In 1796 daughter Sille was born, in 1802 daughter Johanne, in 1805 son Jens, in 1808 son Lars and finally in 1814 daughter Kirsten.Lars Andersen died at Nedre Komperudstøa I 1818, 56 years of age.”After Lars Andersen died, his daughter Sille (dead in 1848) and her husband Arne Amundsen, took over this cotters farm. They had four children.As Alf Thore Skinstad says, no mentioning of ancestors of Lars Andersen here, but I guess it adds a few more details of his life, probably not known to you, Mary Ellen ?Kjell H.

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Gjest Kjell Halvorsen

Correction to my last: Para # 5 should read 'In 1793 a son of Lars and Ingeborg was named Anders'.Sorry about that mistake !

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Gjest Kjell Halvorsen

Hi again,After a little checking and re-checking, I think the author of the above mentioned book has mixed two different individuals by the name of Lars Andersen when writing his book. FS gives a number of births to children from the couples Lars Andersen/Ingeborg Hansd and Lars Andersen/Karen(Kari) Abrahamsd, WITHIN THE SAME TIME FRAME ! This is also verified at Census 1801 [url="http://tinyurl.com/mzdsq>http://tinyurl.com/mzdsq and

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Gjest Kjell Halvorsen

Hi Mary Ellen,While at the local library to check on things for my own search today, I also made an effort to sort things out for you. Due to hardly readable microfiche copies of church records, that effort didn't pay off much. However, from Modum MINI 3 1783-1819 page 751, I can verify that the bachelor and soldier Lars Andersen and Pige Ingeborg Hansdr was engaged to be married on Oct 18 1792 and the same couple was married on the 21st Sunday after Trinitatis, ie Oct 28 1792, at the Nykirke church of Modum parish. Best men were Ellef Gjellestad and Peder Gjellestad of ..... Komperudeje.Still according to the same source, page 116, their son Anders was born Dec 27 1892 and christened on New Years Day in 1893 at Heggen church in Modum. Parents names given was Lars Andersen Komperudeje and wife Ingeborg Hansd. The childs godparents was Kari Nielsd, Sigrid ?Bredel? Kalager, Jens Olsen ?Steneje?, ?? Larsen Kalager, Stephen ?Rudelsen? ibid.To me, the significance here is that Lars Andersen was bachelor at his wedding to Ingeborg, which in turn confirms my findings, ref # (9) above.Unfortunately though, this didn't bring you any further on your request for info on ancestors to Lars/Ingeborg !Kjell H.

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Gjest Mary Ellen Peterson

Thank you for taking the time to do this research. If you ever need research done in Wisconsin, I would try to help. Mary Ellen

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