[#46362] Utvandring til Amerika i september 1880 - Erik Nilsen Rødskoven

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

I Skogers kirkebok under utflyttede er innført at ungkarl Erik Nilsen Rødskoven, født 05.03.1859 flytter til Amerika i september 1880.Kan noen finne ham videre?På forhånd takk for mulig hjelp!Lill Juelsen

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Dette kan vel være emigrasjonen fra Kristiania Lenke Det kan se ut som han reiser sammen med Ingeborg.

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Ja, så men tror jeg du har rett!Tusen takk. Hvorfor du fant Erik og ikke jeg, ja se det...;-). Tusen hjertelig takk.Hvordan kan jeg finne ham videre nå, Berit.Mvh Lill

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Der kan ikke jeg hjelpe deg. Jeg kan bare lete i Census 1880 på FS, og det er ikke sikkert han er med der. Jeg vet ikke når i året den ble holdt.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Census 1880 ble foretatt i juni 1880.Fant ikke noen som matchet Erik/Eric Nilsen/Nilson/Nelson i Census 1900, og som var født i oktober 1859 og immigret i 1880.Men andre er kanskje flinkere til å lete.- Hanne Line -

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Det var nedtur.... Men tusen, tusen takk for at dere forsøkte!Finnes det ikke census mellom 1880 og 1900?Nå var han ikke født i oktober, men 5. mars...Jeg har ikke mulighet til å finne ham, så håper at noen vil forsøke videre....Lill

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Han kunne jo ha landet her?LenkeHar dere noen forslag på hvordan man kan forfølge denne muligheten?Han ligger også merkelig nok inne på Family search med foreldrene Nils Nilsen og Mari Evensdatter, tydelig lagt inn fra Norge. Tror dere det er mulig å finne den som har lagt informasjonen inn?Lill

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Jeg fant også en i England.Whitehall...Er det sikkert båten gikk til USA?[url="http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=9&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=25938&merk=25938#ovre>Lenke

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Link i nr 7 virket ikke, her er innholdet til Census 1880, USA:Erik NILSON Household Male Other Information: Birth Year Birthplace NORWAY Age 21 Occupation Works In Tailor Shop Marital Status S Race W Head of Household Peter LANEMER Relation Other Father's Birthplace NOR. Mother's Birthplace NOR. Source Information: Census Place Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255424 NA Film Number T9-1424 Page Number 224B Link til nr 8, telling for 1881 British Census: Erik NILSEN Household Male Other Information: Birth Year Birthplace Norway Age 22 Occupation Stiiert Marital Status U Head of Household Reinhart PEDERSEN Relation Other Disability Source Information: Vessel 'Rauma' Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341867 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3618 / 158 Håper noen kan hjelpe videre!Lill

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Han kan ikke være med folketellinga 1880 for USA siden den ble holdt i juni, og han på det tidspunktet var i Norge.Du må nok følge båten Angelos ferd, muligens via England og deretter muligens med et annet skip til USA. Om det var dit han skulle.Whitehal kan vel være både i USA og England, men hva MEH står for vet jeg ikke. Det næremeste jeg har kommet i USA er Main=ME.

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Ja, det var slik jeg også tenkte, men vet ikke hvordan jeg går videre fram...:-)Lill

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Hva med å lage et nytt tema hvor du i overskrifte tar med hans navn, emigrasjonsdatoen, og spørsmål om noen kan hjelpe deg med å finne han i USA. Inne i selve temaet kan du skrive resten av opplysningene du har.

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Glemte en ting. Henvis til denne debatten slik at det blir en sammenheng.

[Gjest Patty Dahl]

Just a thought.... There is a town called Whitehall in Wisconsin. There are many of Norwegian descent who settled in that area (Trempealeau county). mvh Patty

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Takk, Patty, Can you figure out what the letters 'MEH' stand for? Any idea what to do from here?Lill

[Gjest Patty Dahl]

Hei Lill! I tried to think what 'meh' stands for...I just do not know.It is difficult to search for a person when you are unsure what name they used in America. But, someone with Ancestry.com (perhaps here at this forum?) could try a search in the 1900 census, in Trempealeau county, perhaps using the name Eric Nilsen/Nelson. The 1900 census is good, because it also indicates the person's month and year of birth...and of course year of immigration. This can be very helpful when you have a common name like 'Nelson'.mvh Patty

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Kan noen slå opp på Ancestry.com for meg, please!Mvh Lill

[Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson]

Lill,the 1880 Census for England would not show Erik Nilsen as he emigrated Sept/1880. If he went to the US his name could be Eric Nilson or Nelson. Ron

[Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson]

Sorry that should be 1880 Census in US. Ron

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Yes, we have established he went too late for the 1880 US census, but early enough for the British 1881, that I copied above. Then hoping somebody would look up the 1900 in the US....Lill

[Gjest Patty Dahl]

Hei igjen Lill! I can only search in Ancestry.com from our public library...I was there for a very short while yesterday. I searched for your 'Erik' in the 1900 census, concentrating on Wisconsin. I found an 'Erick Nelson' living in Trempealeau in 1900, but he was age 51, born Sept. 1848 and immmigrated 1861. So he did not match your Erik. I also scanned the other results...but nothing seemed to come close to the information on Erik.mvh Patty

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Thank you, sweet Patty, that was very nice of you!There were later censuses, he might not show up in the 1900 one, perhaps...Another thought - I found the one in England, stuart on a boat in 1981 that fit age and origin. Perhaps he did not emmigrate to USA like intended, or emmigrated to England or somewhere else (Australia?). Became a 'sailor'. Any ideas?Igjen, tusen takk for hjelpsomheten, Patty! Lill

[Gjest Patty Dahl]

You are welcome, Lill! Do you know who that is listed below Erik in the immigration record...Ingeborg...age 25 also traveling to the same destination? Maybe they were traveling together?Is Erik listed in the bygedebok for the area he came from (is that Drammen?)...and perhaps there is information about this Ingeborg in the bygdebok?Sure there are later censuses that can be searched (1910, 1920, 1930)...but it would be helpful to first find him in the 1900 census IF (!!) he landed in the US!Knowing for sure what name he used is really important!mvh Patty

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

No, I have no idea. We found him leaving in churchbooks, but pretty sure there is no sign of him in bygdebøker. Perhaps Erik left suddenly due to changes in family relations? His mother had died and his father remarried. Do not know if his father had divorced his wife, but in 1880 his farher was involved with - and 1881 got another child with another person.I think the place they lived was also called Skoger, or Strømsgodset. Yes, Drammen.I have not found him in the 1875 census,as he did not live with his father and the new wife, but shall look again.Lill

[Gjest Lill Juelsen]

Looking into the Digitalarkivet for 1875, I had searched ALL over, the last one to check up was in Drøbak, something came up. Written with a C, but may indicate he became a sailor. The one below is only 16, the place of birth is correct.1875-telling for 0203 Drøbak Kretsnr Krets Gardnr By 80 2 44 234 Drøbak Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Fam. stilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødd år Fødestad Bostatus 772 1 1 Hans Thoresen m hf g Sømand 1834 Drøbak b 773 2 Johanne Thoresen k Kone g 1834 Drøbak b 774 3 Jens Thoresen m s 1862 Drøbak b 775 4 Ragnvald Thoresen m s 1865 Drøbak b 776 5 Hans Thoresen m s 1867 Drøbak b 777 6 Johan Thoresen m s 1869 Drøbak b 778 7 Henry Thoresen m s 1872 Oscarsborg b 779 8 Hanna Thoresen k d 1872 Oscarsborg b 780 9 1 Thorvald Jonsen Ruud m hf g Maskinist ved Dampsk. ''Olaf'' 1853 Hole Prstgld. b781 10 Eric Nilsen m Logerende ug Fyrbøder Dampsk. ''Olaf'' 1859 Vestfossen b 782 11 1 Jens Jensen m Logerende ug Matros 1834 Drøbak bLill