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[#51775] Helje Nilsson Utbjoa

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Gjest Patricia Carlsen Mikkelsen

I need help with a translation from the Ølen bygdebok.'Helje Nilsson Utbjoa, f. o. 1661 + før 1711, då 'Enchen' er nemnd med 2 born. 2. gm. Åse Knutsdtr. nemnd 1690-94 som eigar av 16 1/2 mrk. smør i Utbjoa.'I think this says that Helje Nilsson (b. abt 1661 and died before 1711) married first an unnamed widow?. They had two children. Then, he married Åse Knutsdtr.I can't find 'nemnd' in my dictionary. I wonder if it means 'mentioned'. If so, then I don't know when Helje & Åse were married.The bygdebok lists five children for Helje Nilsson Utbjoa. I have estimated their birth years based on ages at their deaths:Sjur ca 1683 (d 1751 Utbjoa, 67 1/2)Åse ca 1693 (d 1791 Arnevik, 98)Brynhilde ca 1698 (d 1765 Børøen, 67)Nils ca 1700 (d 1756 Spissøen nedre, 56)Marita - d 1724 Børøen (can't find her burial record)Sjur is my husband's 6th g-grandfather. If I am interpreting this correctly, it is unlikely that Åse Knutsdatter was Sjur's mother.Can anyone help me with this?Hilsen Patti Mikkelsen

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I think you are on the right track, here is how i see it:'Helje Nilsson Utboja, born ?? 1661, died before 1711, when the widdow is mentioned having 2 children. Marriage no.2 with Åse Knutsdatter mentioned 1690-94 as owner of 16 1/2 'mrk.' 'butter' in Utboja.' 'Nemnd = mentioned'Good luck with your search.

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Thank you for responding!I'm having trouble with this quote. If Åse Knutsdatter is mentioned 1690-1694, and a widow is mentioned in 1711 with two children... Doesn't that sound like Åse is the widow mentioned in 1711? The other thing is that all five of Helje's children (mentioned in the bygdebok) are still alive in 1711. Do you think that only two of them were born with Åse?This is very confusing! I will appreciate any advice...Hilsen Patti Mikkelsen

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