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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Min oldefar hadde ikkje mindre enn 15 søsken. Eg prøver no å lokalisere dei, og spore opp etterkommarar. To av brørne hans har vist seg å vera vanskeleg å finne: Dei emigrerte til Amerika først på 1900-talet, og enda opp i Canada til slutt. Første bror er:1. Ansgar Johan Johansen, f. 1886 i Vega, seinare til garden Aunevik i Foldereid, Nærøy kommune. Han emigrerte i 1907. [url="http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=132086&merk=132086#ovre>LenkeSom vi ser av emigrantprotokollen, skulle han til Vining, Minnesota. Der hadde han 2 tanter, ein onkel, og ein grandonkel, med familie, som hadde tilhald. Til saman sikkert fleire tital slektningar. Etter ein periode der, reiste han vidare til British Columbia, nærmare bestemt Vancouver Island, kor han slo seg ned, og efter sigende livnærte seg som fiskar. Her vart han gift (med kven?) og fekk ca. 4 born. To av dei veit eg sikkert:a. Marion Johansen, gift Matilpi. Budde i Port Hardy, Vancouver Island.b. Karl Johansen, elles ukjent.Den andre broren som emigrerte:2. Lorents Jentoft Johansen, f. 14/3 1890 i Foldereid. Emigrerte i 1911, og reiste direkte til Canada (Quebec)

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Gjest Richard Olsen

I do not understand enough Norwegian to know specifically what you are seeking in Canada. If you want to provide information in English I will see if I can be of asistance to you.

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Thanks! I'll try to write a short English summary. My great grandfather had two brothers who emigrated to Canada, and I'm now looking for any information on those two men. They were:1. Ansgar Johan Johansen, born 1886. Emigrated to USA (Minnesota) in 1907, later to Canada. Settled in BC (Vancouver Island) and worked as a fisherman (probably. He married and had about 4 children. I know the names of two of them: a. Marion Johansen, married Matilpi. They lived in Port Hardy. b. Karl Johansen2. Lorents (Lorentz)Jentoft Johansen, born 3/14 1890. Emigrated to Canada in 1911. (Quebec) Moved to the Vancouver area. Married and had at least one child.Any information would be very welcome. Spouses and children. Locations, occupations etc. I would even like to get in touch with decendants.Ørjan

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Gjest John O. Svenning

Hei! Kan dette være 'din' Ansgar: Vital Event Death Registration Name: Ansgar Johnson Event Date: 1962 3 1 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 75 Gender: male Event Place: Burnaby Reg. Number: 1962-09-003596 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13255 GSU Microfilm Number: 2033376Burneby er i BC. Mvh John

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Johnson) og fødselsår også omtrent perfekt. Eg skreiv at han budde på Vancouver Island, men det er ikkje absolutt sikkert. Burnaby er vel ca. ein del av byen Vancouver. Han kunne vel også ha flytta på slutten, f.eks til nokon av borna. Dottera Marion budde i alle fall på Vancouver Island, for eg har eit gamalt postkort med adressa hennar på. (Ho døydde visstnok først på 1990-talet) Mannen hennar var Peter Matilpi.Når det gjelt Lorents, skal han visstnok ha jobba på ei av ferjene som trafikkerar Vancouver Island. Om han budde på øya, eller fastlandet, veit eg ikkje.Ørjan

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

Ørjan there shows 1 Peter Matilpi in Port Hardy here. There is no Ansgar Johansen death just the one for Burnaby. RonMatilpi, H Peter 124 Copper Way Port Hardy, BC V0N 2P0 (250) 949-5910

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Eg opplevde i går at dei 3-4 første setningane i innlegget mitt kom bort, så innlegg 6 vart ein smule mystisk. Det skulle si, var at Ansgar Johnson i Burnaby er ein veldig god kandidat. Johansen kan godt ha vorti endra til Johnson. Ansgar er vel også eit nokså uvanleg namn i Canada. Trur ikkje det er mange av dei.Ørjan

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(7) Thanks a lot, Ron. If this is 'my' Peter, he must be very, very old. It is of course not impossible. I'll maybe try to call soon. Peter Matilpi was (is?), by the way, native American. I have concluded that Ansgar in Burnaby probably is the man I'm looking for.How about Lorents? I think he might have changed his name. Maybe we are looking for a Lawrence Johnson? Or something simulare? I have heard he was a sailor, and probably worked at some local ferry in the Vancouver area.Ørjan

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Det har dukka opp eit nytt spor som kan kaste nytt lys over saken. Ansgar og Lorents hadde ein grandonkel som emigrerte til Minnesota allereie i 1882. Johan Hauberg. Vi finn han her, som Johan Hanberg: [url="http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=38&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=32258&merk=32258#ovre>LenkeBåde farfar til Lorents og Ansgar (Lorents Iversen Hauberg)+ Johan, var fødd på garden Haugberg i Inderøy. Namnet Hauberg var ein del i bruk i familien.Familien til Johan Hauberg emigrerte året etter. Vi finn dei her: LenkeVi merker oss barn nr. 4, Sigurd Emil Hauberg. Han var fødd den 16/1 i 1874 i følgje Bygdebok for Nærøy I s. 140. Ved eit søk i British Columbia,dukkar han opp som som død i Garden Bay i 1948.

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

English summary:Ansgar and Lorents had a grand uncle (Johan Hauberg) who emigrated to Minnesota already in 1882. His son, Sigurd Emil Hauberg, emigrated the next year (1883) After some time there, he probably moved on to BC, because his death record shows that he lived in Garden Bay, BC at the time of death in 1948.I suppose Sigurd was involved when his younger relative Ansgar came to BC many years later. Ansgar also emigrated via Minnesota. So, we have a new clue, Sigurd Emil Hauberg, Garden Bay, British Columbia.

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

Ørjan here is Sigurds deathSigard Emil Hauberg Place Garden Bay Reg.Number:1948-09-001112 Date:1948 1 4 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age:73 Event:Death Microfilm #:B13196 (GSU # 2032480) Matilpis are First Nation people ( Aboriginal )living on Northern Vancouver Island.Not Native Americans. I also found a Johan Johansen b.ca.1885 in New Westminster. Possibly Ansgar used his second name? Do you have a name for Ansgars wife? Ron

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Here is Johan Johansen in New Westminster.Many Norske fiskers lived in New Westminster and this is where my grandfather came to in 1907.I also have posted a message on a BC message board.RonName: Johan Johansen Place New Westminster Date:1947 5 6 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age:63 Event:Death Microfilm #:B13193 (GSU # 2032477)

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Ørjan,it is a small world! I just noticed you are in Leka? My ancestor Marta Marie Selliseth was born 1820 Rosvig. Her father was Ingebrigt Nielsen Selliseth b.1776 Sorgutvig.He was Sheriff in Leka. Ron

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Thanks a lot Ron!There is no doubt about Sigurd Emil Hauberg. He was a close relative of Ansgar and Lorents. (Their father's cousin) Ansgar and Lorents also had 2 aunts and one uncle in America. They were: 1. Emelie Augusta b. 5/10 1863, married to Ole Jørgen Johannessen, Leka (1888) Emigrated shortly after.2. Konrad Tønder, b. 10/14 1867. Emigrated to Vining, Minnesota in 1893. He probably didn't get married.3. Lina Juliette, b. 12/6 1872. Emigrated together together with Konrad. To Vining, Minnesota. Married to Hogen Hogenson, Vining.Konrad used the surname Lorentsen when he emigrated.Johan Hauberg used the name John Edward Iverson Hauberg in the USA. He died in June 1921, Henning, Minnesota. (Born 1834) His wife was Karen Mathea Zahl (1836-1919) They were the parents of Sigurd Emil Hauberg. They had six children, all born in Norway:1. Anna Kathrine Ovidia, b. 18662. John Klaudius, b. 18683. Olga Juliette, b. 1871. She married Martin Trana in 1898, Henning, Minnesota.4. Sigurd Emil, b. 1874 died 1948 in Garden Bay, BC.5. Haakon Kristian, b. 1874.6. MarieOlga and Sigurd are the only children I have found. Sigurd and Olga used the surname Hauberg.

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

There is this Karl Johan Johansen b.ca.1907 Prince Rupert is in Northern B.C near Alaska.It also had a large Norske community.Karls second name same as Ansgars. This Karl could have died in PR but lived elsewhere also. In the death records they put where they died,not where they lived.If Ansgars son was also a fisker,he would move up and down the coast. RonName:Karl Johan Johansen Place Prince Rupert Date:1976 10 5 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age:69 Event:Death Microfilm #:B13355 (GSU # 2050568)

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Amazing Ron!!!I know both Rosvig (Rossvik) and Selliseth, and I have been both places. I have 'bygdebok' for Nærøy (where Selliseth is located today) but I don't find Marta Marie. What was her husband's name?

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

Yes, Karl Johan Johansen could very well be Ansgar's son. Since Ansgar is not (yet) registered married in BC, he could very well have married prior to his arrival in BC. He emigrated in 1907, but there is a chance he even got married in Norway.Ørjan

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

If Ansgar was a fisker and lived near Port Hardy,he probably fished out of Winter Harbour on the West Coast.Or he could have been a gillnetter and fished Rivers Inlet area.Lenke

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My grandmother (which is the cousin of Marion and Karl) actually met both of them many, many years ago, as they went on a visit to Norway. There was another sister on the trip as well, but she can't remember her name. Grandma means Ansgar was a salmon fisher. She's not sure.Ørjan

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

Here is some information Ørjan4.HANS PETTER DANIELSEN b.28 May,1828 Justad,Hol,Vestvågøy married 1855 in Flakstad,Buksnsæs,Vestvågøy 5.Marta Marie Ingebrigtsdatter Selliseth b.12 May 1820 Leka,N-T10.Ingebrigt Nielsen Selliseth b.1776 Sorgutviken, ( Sor-Gutvik ) Naeroy N-T Christened 11 Jan.1778 Leka,Bindal N-T Drowned with 2 others 10 Oct 1847 Leka. Was the Sheriff in Leka. On February 17th 1798 they rowed to Nordgutvik after hearing cannon shots from the wrecked French privateer 'L'enfant de la Patrie'. It has been written a lot about this ship and lots of information is found in the court of inquiry/maritime declarations. A play has also been written and performed at Leka for several summers Married 17 Oct 1804 Rosvig,Leka in Kolvereid,Nord Trondelag to 11.Ane ( Anne ) Pedersdatter b.1782 Rosvig,( Rosvik )Leka,Kolvereid Ane died 15 Aug.1845 in Leka,Kolvereid,N-T Children: ( All Selliseth ) (1)Nikolai b.1805 Leka m.24 Oct.1837 in Leka to Else Myhre b.1805 Alstahaug ( Nikolai was Postmaster and lived in Rosvik,Leka Children: Nikoline b.1838 / Anna b.1839 Rosvik / Ingara b.1840 Rosvik (Ove Andersen) Anton ? (2)Petter b.1807 Leka. 1865 Lived in Mulstad i Kolvereid Sheriff in Kolvereid m. 17 Nov.1840 to Maren Marie Mikkelsdtr b.1815 Bindalens no children. (3)Ane Margrethe b.1812 d.22 Feb.1879 Leka Lived in Reppen in Leka,Kolvereid (4)Andreas b.1815 Leka d.1873 Salhus,Brønnøy ( lived with Petter in Mulstad ) (5)Kaja ( Karen ) Maria b.1 Jan.1818 Leka m.Edvard Qvale (Kvale )( Philippsen) in Salhus,Bronnoy in 1851. Edvard Kvale b.1816 son of Phillip Andreassen Qvale and Aarselle Katrine Pedersdatter of Roroya,Vega. ( Adopted Davida Magdalena Danielsen,dtr.of Hans and Marta Selliseth Danielsen ) (6)MARTA MARIE b.12 May 1820 Leka m.Hans Danielsen in Flakstad 1855 (7)Ingeborg Anna b.15 May 1824 Leka ( lived with Qvales in Salhus,Bronnoy 1875 ) (8)Mikal b.28 May 1828 Leka + 1909 Saltermark married in 1866 Bronnoy to Gerda Fredrikke Mikkelsdatter( Olsen ) b.1836 in Norhorsfjord, Vatsaas i Bindalens ( Michel Olsen )

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

Ørjan,when Niels was christened,there was a person from each farm around Sørgutvik listed as faddere.But I could never find any information on Niels father who is just noted as Anders from Sørgutvigen.Which makes me think Anders was a Lensmann or fogd? in Leka?20.Niels Andersen bap.27 Jan.1726 Sørgutvik,Naeroy,Nord Trondelag Married 17 April 1775 Sorgutvik to: 21.Abel Jonsdatter ( Joensdatter? ) b.1742 Naeroy d.1795 Sor-Gutvik

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Gjest Ørjan Kvaløy

You have certainly found a lot of information!! Have you been here, or do you have some very good informers? It is simply impressing what you have found!I have located Ingebrigt Nielsen Selliseth. He stayed in Selliseth just for a short time, so his family is not listed there, he moved to Kvernan in 1804, so the family is listed under that farm. (Nærøy Bygdebok VI p. 186) I suppose I can help you on Niels Andersen and wife. I have contacted an expert on the issue. I don't have the records right here. It could take a while.Ørjan

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Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson

That is correct Ørjan.I was able to find a lot of information when the Bindals Bygdebok was on the internet but it has now been taken off. You can contact me at bergiverson@shaw.ca so we dont take up too much Debatt time? I do have another favour to ask of you in Leka.Ron

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