[#62204] Ås - USA og første verdenskrig.

[Gjest Eva Tomter]

To brødre emigrerte til USA. Johan Arve Johansen f. 02.09.1889 den 25.04.1913 [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=219619&merk=219619#ovre>Lenke , og Nils Birger Johansen f. 08.06.1896, den 30.04.1915 Lenke. En av dem forsvant under 1. verdenskrig 1917-1918 og har aldri blitt funnet. Er det noen som har mulighet for oppslag? Skulle gjerne visst hvem som forsvant og om den andre fikk familie og når han døde. Jeg har familien i Norge på plass, de var 10 barn, men disse to vet vi ikke mer om. De kan kanskje ha bodd sammen med tanter og onkler som utvandret fra Sverige, se debatt nr 61061.

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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918Name: Johan Arve Johnson City: Not Stated County: Winneshiek State: Iowa Birthplace: Norway Birth Date: 2 Sep 1889 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1643417 DraftBoard: 0- hanne line -

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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918Name: Nels Johanson City: Not Stated County: Hennepin State: Minnesota Birthplace: Norway Birth Date: 8 Jun 1896 Roll: 1675469 DraftBoard: 0- hanne line -

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Selv om begge var registrert, så betyr det ikke at de faktisk tjenestegjorde. De fleste menn under 46, ble registrert.Nels sitt registreringskort er datert 5. juni 1918, mens Johans er datert 5. juni 1917.Du skriver at en av dem forsvant under 1. verdenskrig. Hvis dette skjedde pga at vedkommende deltok i krigen, så er det vel mest sannsynlig at det var Johan. Første verdenskrig sluttet nov 1918.Men hvis det bare betyr at den av dem forsvant, må vi se om vi finner igjen noen av de i folketellingene.- hanne line -

[Gjest Eva Tomter]

Familiehistorien vil ha det til at det var under kamp, men jeg har flere ganger sett at det finnes tilfelle der historien er endret til en mer spennende variant. Det er jo flottere å dø i kamp i krig enn i slagsmål i fylla f.eks. Så hvis du eller andre har tilgang til folketellinger e.l. hadde det vært supert om dere orker noen oppslag.

[Gjest Kurt Østbye]

Her er iallefall Nils' ankomst i USA med Frederik VIII. Han er fra Ås og oppgir sin far B. Johannessen der som nærtstående. Nils skal til Ridgeway, Iowa.New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957Name: Nils Johannesen Arrival Date: 11 May 1915 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Age: 18 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Christiania Place of Origin: Scandinavia Ship Name: Frederik VIII

[Gjest Kurt Østbye]

Og her er vel tilsvarende for broren Johan Arve som reiser sammen med endel svensker så nærtstående og final destination er ikke så lett å tyde.New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957Name: Johan A Johanson Arrival Date: 12 Apr 1913 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Age: 23 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian Ship Name: Campania

[Gjest Kurt Østbye]

Hei, jeg er allikevel usikker om dette er den rette Johan Arve i innlegg 7, da reisedatoen i den norske emigrantdatabasen er 25. april 1913.

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Den Johan A. Johanson du har funnet, hadde siste bosted i Sverige. Det stedet som slutter på ansmo, med en eller to bokstaver foran. Mor er oppgitt å være Emma Anderson, Kolabro, Skåne(?). Denne Johan skal til Evanston i Illinois.- hanne line -

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jeg sjekket ikke datoen :)- hanne line -

[Gjest Eva Tomter]

Foreldrene er Bernhard Johansen (1858,Hälltorp Skattegård, Upphärad, Västergötland, SE) og Mina Svendsen (1866, Kraakstadplass, Kråkstad, Akershus, NO)

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Johan Arve:1920: Name Arve Johnson Home in 1920 Springfield Winneshiek,Iowa Age 30 Estimated birth year 1890 Birthplace Norway Relation to Head of house Hired man Fathers birthplace Sweden Mothers birthplace Norway Marital Status Singel Year of immigration 1913I 1930 er han gift med Hilda Johnson 35 fra Iowa De har tre barn:Margaret 6 Harold 4 og Arlene 1Ingrid

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Social Security Death Index About Arve Johnson:Name Arve Johnson SSN:485-32-6775 Last Residence:52101 Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa, United States of America Born 2 Sep 1889 Died Okt 1975 Ingrid

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Bra jobba Ingrid,1930 United States Federal CensusName: Arve Johnson Home in 1930: Springfield, Winneshiek, Iowa Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Norway Relation to Head of House: HeadSpouse's Name: HildaHousehold Members: Name Age Arve Johnson 40 Hilda Johnson 35 Margaret Johnson 6 Harold Johnson 4 Arlene Johnson 1

[Gjest Eva Tomter]

Flott! Kan man se om noen av dem fortsatt er i live? Ser at Johan bruker mellomnavnet som fornavn, dette er vel ikke særlig sannsynlig for Nils Birger? Det var nok han som forsvant under krigen.

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Ser ut som om sønnen Harold forsvant:…Harold Johnson, 19-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Arve Johnson of near Nordness, has been reported missing in action somewhere in the South Pacific.Lenke- hanne line -

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Ser ut som om sønnen Harold forsvant:…Harold Johnson, 19-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Arve Johnson of near Nordness, has been reported missing in action somewhere in the South Pacific.Lenke- hanne line -

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The following data is extracted from Iowa World War II Casualty List Navy, Marines and Coast Guard.JOHNSON, Harold Bernard, Seaman 1c, USNR. Parents, Mr. and Mrs. Arve John Johnson, Rt. 1, Decorah.http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/iowa/j.htm- hanne line -

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Arve JohnsonBirth: unknownDeath: 1975Burial: Washington Prairie Cemetery, Decorah, Winneshiek County, Iowa, USAPlot: D-53[url="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Johnson&GScnty=642&GRid=20999299&>Lenke-Mrs Arve Johnson Birth: unknown Death: 1977Burial: Washington Prairie Cemetery, Decorah, Winneshiek County, Iowa, USAPlot: D-54

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Social Security Death IndexName: Hilda Johnson SSN: 479-80-0710 Last Residence: 52101 Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa, United States of America Born: 21 Oct 1894 Died: Oct 1977 State (Year) SSN issued: Iowa (1973 )- hanne line -

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Thursday, August 07, 2008Arline GerlemanThursday, August 07, 2008 Arline M. Gerleman, age 80, of Decorah, died Wednesday, Aug. 6, 2008 at Wellington Place in Decorah following a short illness.Memorial services will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday, Aug. 9, 2008 at First Lutheran Church in Decorah with Rev. Steven M. Jacobsen officiating. Private family burial will be in Washington Prairie Lutheran Cemetery in rural Decorah.Friends may call after 10 a.m. Saturday, one hour before services, at First Lutheran Church. Fjelstul Funeral Home in Decorah is handling the arrangements.Arline May (Johnson) Gerleman was born Aug. 6, 1928 in Springfield Township, Winneshiek County, Decorah, Iowa, the daughter of Arve John and Hilda (Holien) Johnson. She was baptized September 2, 1928 at the Washington Prairie Lutheran Church by the Rev. Paul Koren and was confirmed into that congregation May 9, 1943 by the Rev. O.E. Engebretson. She remained a member there until 1967 when she transferred to First Lutheran Church in Decorah, IA. Arline taught Sunday School and was a member of choir and church organizations.Arline attended a rural school in Nordness, and graduated from Decorah High School with the class of 1946. In 1946, she became an employee of the Northwestern Bell Telephone Company in Decorah. She held several positions there, accumulating 32 years of service and retiring from the company in 1982. She became a part-time employee at the Information Switchboard Desk at Luther College and retired in 1996 after fourteen years.Arline was a devoted and loving mother, grandmother, sister, aunt and friend who will be greatly missed.She was preceded in death by her parents; one brother, Seaman First Class Harold B. Johnson on the ship Indianapolis in World War II; and the father of her girls, Robert Gerleman.She is survived by her three daughters: Nancy Gerleman of Grinnell, Jane (James) Langholz of Decorah, and Lori (Mike) Kelly of Decorah; four grandchildren: Nathan and Ben Langholz, and Drew and Shana Kelly; one sister, Margaret Usgaard of Decorah; one nephew, Harold (Lynette) Usgaard of Austin, Minn.; two great-nieces and one great-nephew; and two great-great-nephews.Memorials may be directed to the Food Pantry at First Lutheran Church or the Winneshiek Medical Center Hospice.Lenke- hanne line -

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Muligens Arlines mann:Social Security Death IndexName: Robert Gerleman SSN: 481-34-0303 Born: 1 Nov 1931 Died: Nov 1976 State (Year) SSN issued: Iowa (Before 1951 )- hanne line -

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U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002Name: Nancy Gerleman Address: 1116 Reed St City: Grinnell State: Iowa Zip Code: 50112-1351 Phone Number: 641-236-4216 Residence Years: 2002- hanne line -

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U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002Name: Jane Langholz Spouse: James Address: 2572 Golfview Rd City: Decorah State: Iowa Zip Code: 52101-9271 Phone Number: 563-382-6297 Residence Years: 2002Disse kan sikkert finnes i telefonkatalogen whitepages.com.- hanne line -

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U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002Name: Lori Kelly Spouse: Michael Address: 2363 Allan Drive Rd City: Decorah State: Iowa Zip Code: 52101-7576 Phone Number: 319-382-4014 Residence Years: 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001- hanne line -