[#67431] Hjelp amerikaner: Lisbet Stangvik, Peter Johnson, John Evenson, Helena Peterson

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

En amerikansk dame søker sine forfedre. Er det noen som kan hjelpe?'I have a marriage license for Lisbet S. Stangvik and Peter Johnson from 31 July 1892 in Empire, Michigan. Peter is shown as 42 years old, father John Evenson? Ericson? (not clear) and mother's maiden name Helena Peterson. I believe Peter's Norwegian name may not have been Johnson. It says he was married once before. He had at least one child, a son Christian.Lisbet is also listed as 42 years old, but parents are listed as unknown. It says she had not been married before. However, her daughter Johanna came with her from Norway and married Peter Johnson's son Christian after her first husband Andrew Thoreson died young. Johanna and Christian are my great-grandparents.What I'd like to find out is anything more on Peter Johnson and Lisbet Stangvik. Was she ever married to Johanna's father? There is a strong familial connection to the Oleson family in Port Oneida, Michigan, but I have not been able to connect them, except for the marriage record of Johanna and Christian where she lists her mother's name as Elizabeth Oleson, father unknown. I believe Lisbet was from Stangik, and Peter from Trondheim.Family legend was that Lisbet (and daughter) was preceded to America by her husband, but when they got here he was not to be found. I realize this could be a big story to cover the fact that there was no husband! But I'd like to know.Any information on these family members would be greatly appreciated.'

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

Hei Hanne Line!Jeg har gjort noen søk, og her er resultatet - på engelsk, med forbehold om at jeg ikke er helt sikker på at de er de rette personene:If Peter Johnsen was 42 years old when he married in 1892, he was born around 1850. I made a parents search in LDS Family Search, and I found this Peder Ludvig Johansen, born on 8 July 1849, baptized on 5 August 1849 in Vår Frue, Trondheim [url="http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/vr/individual_record.asp?recid=29175116&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>Lenke, cf. Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Vår Frue Kirke i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 602A08 (1840-1854), Fødte og døpte 1849, side 90. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: LenkePeder Ludvig Johansen had three siblings: Julie Regine, born on 18 April 1851, baptized on 1 June 1851 - Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Vår Frue Kirke i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 602A08 (1840-1854), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 131. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: Lenke Hansine, born on 8 August 1854, baptized on 5 November 1854 - Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Vår Frue Kirke i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 602A10 (1848-1859), Fødte og døpte 1854, side 83. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: Lenke Johan Ludvig Johansen, born on 28 March 1856, baptized on 17 August 1856 - Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Vår Frue Kirke i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 602A10 (1848-1859), Fødte og døpte 1856, side 118. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: LenkeJohan Evensen and Helene Pedersdatter married on 9 August 1856 in Trondheim - Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Vår Frue Kirke i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 602A10 (1848-1859), Ekteviede 1856, side 284. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: Lenke---------------------------------------------------------In the 1865 census return for Stangvik I have found this Elisabeth Olsdatter, LenkeHere is the birth and baptism record for Elisabeth / Lisbeth, but I cannot be sure if she is identical with Lisbeth Stangvik - Møre og Romsdal fylke, Stangvik i Stangvik, Ministerialbok nr. 592A04 (1849-1867), Fødte og døpte 1849, side 1. Permanent sidelenke: Lenke Permanent bildelenke: LenkeThere also was another Lisbeth Olsdatter living in Stangvik in 1865, she was about the same age, but she was born in Tingvoll

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

Ser nå at jeg burde ha lagt inn lenkene til de skannede kirkebøkene på engelsk...Grethe

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

I have asked Anne to check this findings, and answer any questions that may turn up.

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

What confuses me at little bit, is that Lisbeth is also mentioned as Lisbeth S. Stangvik… Could it be that she has an patronymic that starts with an S??In the emigration lists from Kristiansund I’ve found the emigration records from 1888 for Elisabeth Megaard, born 1848, and her daughter, Johanna, born 1871, both from Stangvik [url="http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=12&filnamn=EMIKRUT&gardpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre>LenkeMegaard is a farm name in Halsa in Stangvik, and I’ve found this birth and baptism from 1871 for a girl named Johanna. She is illegitimate and her mother’s name is Lisbeth Stenersdatter Aakvik (Lisbeth S??) – cf. No 34 - Møre og Romsdal county, Halsa in Stangvik, Parish register (official) nr. 576A02 (1865-1879), Birth and baptism records 1871, page 28. Permanent pagelink: Lenke Permanent imagelink: LenkeIn the 1865 census return for Stangvik I’ve found a servant called Lisabeth STENERSDATTER living on the farm MEGAARD, Hagen -

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Grethe, this looks very interesting.Hope Anne can give us the emigration year for Lisbeth and Johanna.

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

Here is the confirmation record for Lisbeth Stenersdatter Megaard (No 15) - Møre og Romsdal county, Halsa in Stangvik, Parish register (official) nr. 576A01 (1849-1865), Confirmation records 1864, page 287. Permanent pagelink: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2284&idx_id=2284&uid=ny&idx_side=-135>Lenke Permanent imagelink:

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957Name: Elizth Meguard Arrival Date: 25 Jun 1888 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Age: 26 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: Michigan Place of Origin: Norway Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian Ship Name: Aurania Port of Arrival: New York Line: 31 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_522 List Number: 853 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United StatesElizabeth 26 years (?) and johanna 2 years(?) have Michigan as final destination.

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

Hei Hanne Line!Jeg svarer på norsk nå i første omgang: merkelig, for i emigrantlistene fra Kristiansund står det at Elisabeth Megaard er født i 1848 og datteren Johanna er født i 1871, se innlegg 5.Så videre til Ingebrigt Olsen, far til Johanna født i 1871:According to the birth and baptism record for Johanna, born 1871, her father’s name was Ingebrigt Olsen Vollum, and Johanna was born on the farm Aakvik. Ingebrigt Olsen was 28 years old in 1871, born about 1843.Perhaps this is Ingebrigt in 1865 [url="http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=f61564&gardpostnr=409&personpostnr=3029&merk=3029#ovre>Lenke.May be there is some connection between Lisbeth Stenersdatter and Ingebrigt’s patronymic Olsen? May be it has turned into Elizabeth Olsen???The 1865 census return says that Ingebrigt Olsen was born in Tingvoll. There are to possible candidates in Tingvoll – cf. LDS/Family Search:Ingebrigt Olsen, born 1842 Lenke Og Romsdal&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly= and Ingebrigt Olsen, born 1843

[Gjest Erling Myrbostad]

Hei, tar det på norsk i første omgang pga dårlig tid, skal belegge det med lenker om nødvendig i helga. Kortversjonen:Emigrantlistene: Elisabet Megaard f. 1848 og Johanna Megaard, f. 1871 utvandra samme dag 7.8.1888.FT1865: Megård, Hagen: Lisbet Stenersdatter, tjenestepige, 18 år. Ingebrigt, se lenke tidligere innlegg.Kirkebøker Stangvik/Halsa:Fødte: Johanne, f. 9.8.1871, foreldre Lisbet Stenersdatter Aakvik, f. ca 1848 og Ingebrigt Olsen Vollum, f. ca 1843.Konfirmerte: Lisbet Stenersdatter Megaard, f. 17/5 1848 Røset, Øxendalen (det er på Ålvundeid). Foreldre Dreng Stener Fredriksen (ukjent så langt)og pige Helge Johnsdatter (ho var fra Nyleet under Røset, f. 1826)Ingebrigt Olsen Svinnæs, f. 7.8.1842. Født Brotvik i Tingvoll, foreldre Ole Anderssen og Randi Ingebrigtsdatter.mvh Erling

[Gjest Erling Myrbostad]

Hi, I’m back with more data regarding sources to my earlier contribution marked (10)Emigration records, departure from Kristiansund: Elisabet Megaard b. 1848 and Johanna Megaard, b. 1871, emigrated at August 7th, 1888:2898 437 1888 Juni 07 Elisabeth Megaard K 1848 1848 U Pige Stangvik Nordmøre New York Ja Cunardlinjen 2899 438 1888 Juni 07 Johanne Megaard K 1871 1871 U Pige Stangvik Nordmøre New York Ja Cunardlinjen Norwegian census 1865 for Stangvik: Under the farm Megaard, Hagen: Lisbet Stenersdatter, maid, 18 years. 23 Lisabet Stenersd. Tjenestepige ug 18 k StangvigUnder the farm Vollum, Indre: 5 Ingebrigt Ols. Logerende Skomager ug 23 m ThingvoldChurchbook Stangvik/Halsa: Johanne, b. 9 Aug 1871, parents Lisbet Stenersdatter Aakvik, b. cir 1848 and Ingebrigt Olsen Vollum, b. cir 1843. Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6392&idx_id=6392&uid=ny&idx_side=-29>LenkeConfirmation records from Stangvik/Halsa: Lisbet Stenersdatter Megaard, b. 17 May 1848 on Røset, Øxendalen (now on Ålvundeid in Sunndal). See No 15 in link: Permanent sidelenke: LenkeParents given in link are farm hand Stener Fredriksen (do far unknown origin)og maid Helge Johnsdatter (she was from the small farn Nyleet under Røset, b. 1826, see link page 163 No 5:) Permanent sidelenke: LenkeIngebrigt Olsen Svinnæs, See confirmation records Stangvik in link, No. 14: Permanent sidelenke: LenkeAs stated in previous link, he was born 7 Aug 1842 on the farm Brotvik in Tingvoll, parents Ole Anderssen and Randi Ingebrigtsdatter, se No. 99 in next link: Permanent sidelenke:

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

Hello Erling!The link to Lisbeth Stenersdatter's confirmation is already given (innlegg 7) and also the emgration records for Lisbeth Megaard and her daughter Johanna from Kristiansund in 1888. But you have collected all information and that is useful and makes it easier for us all.Grethe

[Gjest Grethe Flood]

I have found the birth and baptism record for one Stener Fredriksen from Edøy - Møre og Romsdal fylke, Edøy, Ministerialbok nr. 581A02 (1767-1823), Fødte og døpte 1813-1814, side 815-816. Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16112&idx_id=16112&uid=ny&idx_side=-348>Lenke Permanent bildelenke: LenkeBut there is also one Stener Fredriksen Smiset, born 1821 in Stangvik - Møre og Romsdal fylke, Stangvik, Ministerialbok nr. 592A02 (1820-1830), Fødte og døpte 1821, side 16-17. Lenke. Here is the confirmation record for Stener (no 33) Lenke.This could be Stener in 1865

[Gjest Erling Myrbostad]

Hi, ref. to Grethe, contribution (13).Since the churchbook for Ålvundeid/Øxendal for 1848 not is available on Internet, it is difficult to verify the father. However, most likely is Stener Fredriksen Smiset, since Smiset and Røset are neighbour farms.It seems quite unlikely that the other Stener Fredriksen mentioned by Grethe should come from Edøy to Røset, unless he had family in the area. In these years, it was easier to get work in the outer parts of the district, so people tends to move from inland towards the coast.Grethe's link from census 1865 is identical to Stener Fredriksen Smiset, f. 1821. He was born in Nestua Smiset, son of Fredrik Fredriksen Smiset, b. 1796 and Anne Stenersdatter Seljebø, b. 1783. More information of their ancestors is easy to collect. I checked 'Stangvikboka', but no information there to confirm that Stener Fredriksen has an illegitimate daughter.Regards Erling

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Jeg har ikke fått tak i denne amerikanske damen ennå.Men på hennes vegne sier jeg tusen takk for en kjempeinnsats. Regner med at hun blir fornøyd nå. :)