[#71939] Kongsberg - 1801 census

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Can anyone tell me if the 1801 Kongsberg census is complete? I am trying to find Peder Madsen Graaten and wife Oline Olsdatter originally from Flesberg. They have eight sons, Ole, Mads, Hans, Christen, Peder, Abraham, Syver and Otter. Otter is born in Kongsberg 1799. The last five sons are confirmed in Kongsberg after 1801, so I expect they are living in Kongsberg in 1801. But I cannot find them!Your help is appreciated.Robert Evensen

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

I will try to help to find Peder Madsen i 1801, but first the Churchbook from Kongsberg and the søn Otter Pedersens chr. On the top of the list 2. page: LenkeBest regards from Gunn.

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

I have not been able to find Peder Madsen( Matzen) and his family in Kongsberg in 1801.I Eiker ( not so far from Kongsberg) there is a Peder Madsen 51 years old, m. 2. time with a younger vife.Two sons Hans 26 y. and Mads 6.Y.The 1. vife Oline probably died in Kongsberg?( Only a theory) I think this is the only Peder Madsen in 1801 census I find near Kongsberg area. They are ont on fra Farm Graaten at that time.Think I have to look after the death of Oline in Kongsberg Churchbooks?Gunn.

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

Sorry I forgot the link to Peder Madsen i 1801 Census in Eiker: LenkeGunn

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

This is very good news. Tusen takk! I believe you are correct. Oline Olsdatter was born in Eiker, so they may have returned there for a short time after leaving Kongsberg. But I do know they returned to Kongsberg as several children are confirmed there.Mvh, Robert

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Now that I look at my records, I am not sure this is the right family. Mads Pedersen Graaten was born in 1783 and Hans is born 1785. Both in Flesberg. So their ages would be 18 and 16, not 26 and 6. This must be a different family.Robert

[Gjest Anne Tonby]

It's not the right Peder Madsen i ft 1801. This Peder Madsen got married in 1797.

[Gjest Bjørg Lunde]

I believe this family must have been left out of the 1801 census. I know they lived i Kongsberg or near by because I have found Peder and Mads in a list of workers for the silver mines in 1805:Peder Madsen Graaten 49 years old, married with 3 children to support. Mads Pedersen Graaten, 22 years old, single.

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

This is very interesting. Now I know that probably Peder Madsen's youngest three sons, Abraham, Syver and Otter were alive in Kongsberg in 1805, as was his wife Oline Olsdatter And Mads Pedersen his 2nd son was also working in the mines. I wondered if his sons worked in the mines or joined the military.Does anyone know if there are military records from Kongsberg?mvh, Robert

[Gjest Turid Langaas Jensen]

1840 census -Kongsberg.Mads Graaten 45 years - working in the mines. his wife 47 Maren 15 Marthine 9 Knud 6Oline Graaten 85 years - living in the same house - her death is after 1840.Turid

[Gjest Ivar Lie]

Flesberg bygdebok, vol.6, p.602 provides information about Peder Madssen and his family. They moved to Kongsberg in 1797. However, The Kongsberg 1801 census is not complete, and one of the blank spots is the area on the border between Flesberg and Kongsberg (Stengelsrud in particular). I have been trying to establish who lived where and when in that area for some time, and one of the persons I've come across is indeed Peder Madsson Graaten. So it is (highly) likely that Peder and some of his family are in the 'blank' area in 1801, and that's why they don't appear in the 1801 census- ------ Ivar Lie

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Tusen takk Ivar! I will get a copy of the Flesberg bygdebok and see what it says. I am glad you told me about the missing parts of the 1801 census. I thought I just couldn't find it.Robert