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Hermanda og Ovidia Mathiasen fra Bergen til Amerika

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Siw Merethe Sværholdt

Disse to søstrene emigrerte til Amerika. Hva skjedde videre og var det flere av søskenene som emigrerte?

 

 

FT Bergen 1885: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=F81201&personpostnr=30008&merk=30008

 

FT Bergen 1891: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=berg1891&personpostnr=46648&merk=46648

 

FT Bergen 1900: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f01301&personpostnr=37873&merk=37873

 

 

Ovidia emigrerer i 1904: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIBERG&personpostnr=53169&merk=53169

 

Hermanda emigrerer i 1907: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIBERG&personpostnr=62306&merk=62306

 

Hermanda hjemme på besøk (med sin 3 årige sønn) i 1909: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIBERG&personpostnr=67226&merk=67226

 

 

Så vi vet ihvertfall at Hermanda ble gift Olsen, og fikk en sønn Trygve Waldemar Olsen i 1906. Men hva skjedde med den andre søsteren, og fikk hun/de flere barn? Jeg har bilder her som jeg tror må være av deres barn. Tre stykker, to gutter og en jente. Er veldig interessert i skjebnen til deres barn også om det lar seg finne ut.

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Lars Johannessen

? Hermanda (Amanda) i Census 1930? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X45F-W33

 

Household Gender Age

Spouse Anton Olsen M 51

Amanda Olsen F 43

Child Taygve W Olsen M 23

Child Eilif A Olsen M 19

Child Walter W Olsen M 18

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

about Hermanda Olsen

 

Name: Hermanda Olsen

Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1909

Birth Year: abt 1887

Birth Location: Norway

Birth Location Other: Bergen

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian

Port of Departure: Christianssand, Norway

Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Ship Name: United States

 

Skal til sin mann Anton Olsen, 67 Hamilton av, Brooklyn.

 

 

 

1930 United States Federal Census

about Amanda Olsen

 

Name: Amanda Olsen

Gender: Female

Birth Year: abt 1887

Birthplace: Norway

Race: White

Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York

View Map

Marital Status: Married

Immigration Year: 1907

Relation to Head of House: Wife

Spouse's Name: Anton Olsen

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Occupation:

 

Education:

 

Military Service:

 

Rent/home value:

 

Age at first marriage:

 

Parents' birthplace:

View image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Anton Olsen 51

Amanda Olsen 43

Taygve W Olsen 23

Eilif A Olsen 19

Walter W Olsen 18

 

 

 

 

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Ann-Mary Engum

"United States Census, 1910,"

 

Trigva Olsen in household of Antony Olsen (Brooklyn Ward 6, Kings, New York)

 

Name:Trigva Olsen

 

Birthplace:Norway

 

Relationship to Head of Household:Son

 

Residence:Brooklyn Ward 6, Kings, New York

 

Marital Status:Single

 

Race :White

 

Gender:Male

 

Immigration Year:1907

 

Father's Birthplace:Norway

 

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

 

Family Number:239

 

Page Number:13

 

HouseholdGenderAge

 

Parent Antony OlsenM31y

 

 

 

Parent Amanda OlsenF23y

 

Trigva Olsen M3yAlfred MealenM31y

 

 

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/M5QH-JKH

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

1930 United States Federal Census

about Amanda Olsen

 

Name: Amanda Olsen

Gender: Female

Birth Year: abt 1887

Birthplace: Norway

Race: White

Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York

View Map

Marital Status: Married

Immigration Year: 1907

Relation to Head of House: Wife

Spouse's Name: Anton Olsen

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Occupation:

 

Education:

 

Military Service:

 

Rent/home value:

 

Age at first marriage:

 

Parents' birthplace:

View image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Anton Olsen 51

Amanda Olsen 43

Taygve W Olsen 23

Eilif A Olsen 19

Walter W Olsen 18

 

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1910 United States Federal Census

about Amanda Olsen

 

Name: Amanda Olsen

Age in 1910: 23

Birth Year: 1887

Birthplace: Norway

Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 6, Kings, New York

Race: White

Gender: Female

Immigration Year: 1907

Relation to Head of House: Wife

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name: Antony Olsen

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Antony Olsen 31

Amanda Olsen 23

Virgia Olsen 3

Alfred Merlin 31

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ann-Mary Engum
Hanne Line Osberg Eide

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

about Ovidia Mathiesen

 

Name: Ovidia Mathiesen

Arrival Date: 29 Oct 1904

Birth Year: abt 1882

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian

Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Ship Name: Campania

 

Skal til venn/cousin Oscar Pettersen, Brooklyn.

 

 

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Ann-Mary Engum

Kanskje dette er Ovidia i 1930?

 

Name:Ovitia Rundstrom

 

Event:Census

 

Event Date:1930

 

Event Place:Brooklyn (Districts 1001-1250), Kings, New York

 

Gender:Female

 

Age:48

 

Marital Status:Married

 

Race:White

 

Birthplace:Norway

 

Estimated Birth Year:1882

 

Immigration Year:1904

 

Relationship to Head of Household:Wife

 

Father's Birthplace:Norway

 

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

 

Enumeration District Number:1121

 

Family Number:223

 

Sheet Number and Letter:9B

 

Line Number:59

 

NARA Publication:T626, roll 1508

 

Film Number:2341243

 

Digital Folder Number:4638798

 

Image Number:00365

 

HouseholdGenderAge

 

Spouse Charles RundstromM43

 

Ovitia Rundstrom F48

 

Finn MonsenM24

 

William MonsenM23

 

Child John C RundstromM12

 

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/X4N1-B3Q

 

 

 

Kanskje Charles Rundstrøm er denne?Foreldre Rudolf Rundstrøm og Karen.

Telling 1900.

 

Karl RundstrømsugLøbergut1886Bergen

http://www.rhd.uit.n...bnr=0033&lnr=02

 

 

 

Dåpen til samme Charles:

Name:Karl Valdemar Rundstrom

 

Gender:Male

 

Baptism/Christening Date:19 Aug 1886

 

Baptism/Christening Place:Bergen, Bergen, Norway

 

Birth Date:Birth Place:Death Date:

 

Name Note:Race:

 

Father's Name:Rudolf Valdemar Rundstrom

 

Father's Birthplace

 

:Father's Age:

 

Mother's Name:Karen Kristine Kristoffersen

 

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/N4LR-J2N

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

Kan kanskje stemme det, da jeg fant et giftemål med en Oscar Monsen. Og fant paret i 1910, men ikke senere. Gift på nytt?

 

 

 

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Mathisen Obidia Dec 26 1905 85 Kings

 

Monsen Oskar A Dec 26'04 1905 Kings

 

 

 

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1910 United States Federal Census

about Endia Monsen

 

Name: Endia Monsen

[Lydia Monsen]

[Endia Johnson]

[Endia Swenson]

Age in 1910: 27

Birth Year: 1883

Birthplace: Norway

Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 6, Kings, New York

Race: White

Gender: Female

Immigration Year: 1902

[1903]

Relation to Head of House: Wife

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name: Oscar Monsen

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Oscar Monsen 30

Endia Monsen 27

Fran Monsen 5

[33]

William Monsen 3

[31]

Henry G Simonson 27

Sall Knudsen 37

Lam Anderson 28

Johannes Garra 50

[30]

Peter Patman 2

 

 

 

 

 

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

???

 

Family Name Given Name Month of

Birth Day of

Birth Year of

Birth Certificate

Number County Soundex

 

Monsen Fin O Sep 24 1905 22671 Kings M525

Monsen Wm B May 20 1907 15515 Kings M525

 

 

 

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

about Finn Oskar Monsen

 

Name: Finn Oskar Monsen

Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1915

Birth Year: 1915

Birth Location: New York

Birth Location Other: Brooklyn, New York

Age: 10

Gender: Male

Port of Departure: Bergen

Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Ship Name: Kristianiafjord

 

Og broren William Birger reiser til mor i Brooklyn.

 

 

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Siw Merethe Sværholdt

Dette var overveldende mye informasjon på en gang, og så raskt:) Tusen takk til dere begge.

 

Dere som er så flinke med emigrasjons-historie. Lurer jo litt på om noen av disse barna levde opp, og om det kan finnes gjenlevende etterkommere etter dem.

Vet dere hvordan man evt. søker etter nålevende i USA?

 

Skipsmanifestet fikk jeg ikke opp av en eller annen grunn, Mary-Ann. Det sto noe om service difficulties, men skal prøve igjen.

Så det ser ut som om Hermanda og Ovidia fikk tre gutter hver? og at Ovidias to eldste var med hennes første mann.

 

Skal bli spennende å nøste videre på dette! Har ganske mange flotte bilder både av barna og disse to damene.

Hatter og kjoler og de flotteste kreasjoner, men de er så runde og store disse to trultne damene at de kanskje kan kalles to skikkelige matroner:)

De var tydeligvis klare over det selv for de skriver på postkort til min oldemor: "hilsen dine to tynde søstre"

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

about Finn Monsen

 

Name: Finn Monsen

Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1909

Birth Year: abt 1905

Birth Location: United States of America

Birth Location Other: Brooklyn, New York

Age: 4

Gender: Male

Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Ship Name: United States

 

Ovidia, Finn 4, Willy 2 og Oscar (6 mnd) reiser her.

 

 

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Ann-Mary Engum

"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," Carl W Rundstrom (1942)

Name:Carl W Rundstrom

 

Event:Military

 

Event Date:1942

 

Event Place:Brooklyn, Kings, New York

 

Residence:Brooklyn, Kings, New York

 

Gender:Male

 

Birth Date:06 Aug 1886

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/F3ZR-R38

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Florida Death Index, 1877-1998

about Finn Monsen

 

Name: Finn Monsen

Death Date: 21 Jun 1976

County of Death: Broward

State of Death: Florida

Age at Death: 70

Race: White

Birth Date: 24 Sep 1905

 

 

 

 

 

Social Security Death Index

about William Monsen

 

Name: William Monsen

SSN: 101-01-0920

Last Residence: 11220 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America

Born: 20 May 1907

Last Benefit: 33322 Fort Lauderdale, Broward, Florida, United States of America

Died: Aug 1978

State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

 

 

 

 

 

Family NameGiven NameMonth of

BirthDay of

BirthYear of

BirthCertificate

NumberCounty

 

Monson Oscar A Jan 16 1909 3395 Kings

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Ann-Mary Engum

"New York, Eastern District Naturalization Petitions, 1865-1957," Carl Waldemar Rundstrom (1947)

 

Name:Carl Waldemar Rundstrom

 

Event:Naturalization Petitions

 

Event Date:1947

 

Event Place:New York

 

Age:60

 

Nationality:

 

Birth Year:

 

Arrival Year:

 

Court:U.S. District Court, Brooklyn, Kings, New York

 

Witnesses:NARA Publication Title:

 

Index to Naturalization Petitions of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1957

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XGD8-TZG

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

NYC Death index

 

Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year CertificateNumber County

 

Monsen Oscar A 8 m Oct 11 1909 18976 Kings

 

 

 

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Ann-Mary Engum

"United States Social Security Death Index," Ovidia Rundstrom (1963)

 

First Name:Ovidia Middle Name:Last Name:Rundstrom Name Suffix:Birth Date:28 October 1881 Social Security Number:053-07-2165 Place of Issuance:New York Last Residence:Zip Code of Last Residence:Death Date:January 1963 Estimated Age at Death:82 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VSDF-CWP

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Ann-Mary Engum

Ser at du har har hatt kjennskap til en del av opplysningene vi har funnet ,

 

 

Kan være lurt på opplyse om hva du vet fra før,slik at vi slipper dobbeltarbeid.

 

Ditt tema på Dis,slektsforum i 2007:

 

 

http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ovidia%20rundstrom%20brooklyn&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.disnorge.no%2Fslektsforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D47256&ei=quGBT6f3EIaB4ATbgvXbBw&usg=AFQjCNEe861eSakiXHYDBflMCDfG4qKWoQ

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Siw Merethe Sværholdt

Ja, jeg husker at jeg hadde dette oppe som tema i den gamle debatten, men jeg fant den ikke igjen, og jeg hadde ikke notert ned opplysningene den gang, dessverre.

 

Dere har funnet ut mye mer enn hva jeg visste fra før for det eneste jeg husker er at den ene søsteren (den som var gift med Anton) hadde en eller to sønner som døde uten barn, så tusen takk skal dere ha nok en gang. Skal se på den gamle debatten nå som du la ut lenken.

 

Beklager hvis det ble dobbelt opp, det var ikke meningen!

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Siw Merethe Sværholdt

Forstår ikke dette med Oscar som dør så ung. Har et brudebilde her, hvor det står bakpå: Onkel Oscar og tante Astrid - min farmor skrev det.

Så da må noen av de andre søstrene evt. også ha hatt en sønn som het Oscar, eller at de fikk en ny sønn Oscar.

Ihvertfall så ser det ut til at denne Oscar enten flyttet til Norge, eller hentet seg en kone her, men har ikke funnet noen beviser for det.

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Hanne Line Osberg Eide

Forstår ikke dette med Oscar som dør så ung. Har et brudebilde her, hvor det står bakpå: Onkel Oscar og tante Astrid - min farmor skrev det.

Så da må noen av de andre søstrene evt. også ha hatt en sønn som het Oscar, eller at de fikk en ny sønn Oscar.

Ihvertfall så ser det ut til at denne Oscar enten flyttet til Norge, eller hentet seg en kone her, men har ikke funnet noen beviser for det.

 

Hvis dette er søstre til din oldemor, så vil ikke barna deres bli tante/onkel til din farmor.:unsure:

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Siw Merethe Sværholdt

Hvis dette er søstre til din oldemor, så vil ikke barna deres bli tante/onkel til din farmor.:unsure:

 

 

Nei, rettelse, farmors skrift. Jeg vet jo ikke hvem som eide bildet.

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