Julius Martin Ingwalson (1850) and Ragna Ingebretson (1851) - emigrated 1870's to Illinois - where did they come from?

[Lars E. Øyane]

I have today received the following inquiry from Rockford, IL:

 

"Victor Ingwalson was a very prominent member of our Trinity Lutheran Church, our treasurer for many years and he worked until about 100 years, not wanting to retire. We try to find information about Victor's parents, Julius Martin Ingwalson, born 1850 and his wife Ragna Ingebretson Ingwalson, born 1851. We would like to know more about where they came from in Norway and the only thing we have found was from there church here was Aakers church in Norway. Not sure of all the spelling for the Norwegian."

 

I have found out that Victor Emelius Ingwalson was born at Durand, Winnebago Co., IL on Sep. 16, 1884.

 

Here is the family in 1900, still residing in Durand township, Winnebago Co., IL:

 

INGVALSON, Jule May 1850 Nor Nor Nor em 1871 day laborer

INGVALSON, Ragna B Jun 1852 Nor Nor Nor em 1872 wife

married 29 years, 9 children - 7 living

INGVALSON, Victor Sep 1884 IL Nor Nor son

INGVALSON, Josephine Feb 1887 IL Nor Nor dau

INGVALSON, Orville Mar 1891 IL Nor Nor son

 

Then the 1865 census suggests this MAY be Julius' origin from Munkedamsveien 20 in Christiania (Oslo):

 

Ingvald Syversen Husfader g Snedkerarbeider 1801 Stange Prgj.

Berthe Dyersdatter Konen g 1802 Stange Prgj.

Julius Ingvaldsen Søn ug 1852 Christiania

Hilda Ingvaldsdatter Datter ug 1855 Christiania

 

And from FamilySearch this entry:

 

Name: Julius Ingvoldsen

Gender: Male

Event Date: 22 Aug 1852

Event Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway

Birth Date: 13 Apr 1852

Father's Name: Ingvold Syversen

Mother's Name: Berthe Dynesdatter

 

Maybe someone can help by proving Julius' identity and maybe also finding his wife Ragna?

 

Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter!

 

Very sincerely yours,

 

Lars E. Oyane

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Victor E Ingwalson

United States Social Security Death Index birth: 16 September 1884 death: 16 November 1988 Winnebago, Illinois

 

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Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 gammel

 

25412 Oslo 497 1872 30 Julius Ingvaldsen m u Arb. 20 Kristiania New Zealand 1592 Norsk œ 8 Høvding

 

25413 Oslo 498 1872 30 Thina Julie Ingvaldsen f u Pige 23 Kristiania New Zealand 1593 Norsk œ 5 Høvding

 

http://digitalarkive...merk=25412#ovre

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Sigur A. Ingvalson in household of Julius Ingvalson, "United States Census, 1880"

Name: Sigur A. Ingvalson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1880 Event Place: Laona, Winnebago, Illinois, United States Gender: Male Age: 6 Marital Status: Single Occupation: Race (Original): W Ethnicity: American Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Minnesota, United States Birth Date: 1874 Spouse's Name: Spouse's Birthplace: Father's Name: Julius Ingvalson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Name: Ragna B. Ingvalson Mother's Birthplace: Norway Page: 70 Page Letter: B Entry Number: 2521 Affiliate Film Number: T9-0261 GS Film number: 1254261 Digital Folder Number: 004240569 Image Number: 00453 Household Gender Age Birthplace

 

Self Julius Ingvalson M 30 Norway

 

Wife Ragna B. Ingvalson F 28 Norway

 

Son Sigur A. Ingvalson M 6 Minnesota, United States

 

Son Thorval I. Ingvalson M 4 Illinois, United States

 

Daughter Inga K. Ingvalson F 2 Illinois, United States

 

Son Marcus E. Ingvalson M 0 Illinois, United States

 

Other C. K. Ingvaldson F 20 Norway

 

 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX2S-GT8

[Jon Torp]

Satser på Ingvald Syversen og Berte Dyresdatter som foreldre....

 

https://familysearch...M9.1.1/N71P-4QS

 

http://www.rhd.uit.n...nr=1219&lnr=000

 

hmmmm - gammalt nytt - sorry

 

Julius sin dåp:

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 19 (1842-1852), Fødte og døpte 1852, side 380.

Permanent sidelenke:

 

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=570&idx_id=570&idx_listetype=dp&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-401

[Carsten Schanche]

Finner denne Martin Julius i 1865. Han er født 1-5-1850 og døpt 7-7-1850 i Aker http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=24&filnamn=f60218a&gardpostnr=331&personpostnr=2645&merk=2645#ovre

[Jon Torp]

Der satt´n Carsten!

[Carsten Schanche]

Så finner jeg denne Ragna B. i 1865. Hun er født 20-6-1851 og døpt 17-8-1851 i Aker http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=29&filnamn=f60798&gardpostnr=161&personpostnr=932&merk=932#ovre

[Lars E. Øyane]

Thank you very very much to Ann-Mary, Jon and Carsten for many interesting contributions! I have a "hunch" that Carsten has found the correct people in items #5 and #7. I write this in English as I send it all on to Rockford, IL for further examination!

 

Very sincerely yours,

 

Lars E. Oyane

[bergiverson]

Martin Julius Eriksen & Ragna Berthine went to America from Vestre Aker 1871 see # 8

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Vestre Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1859-1877), Inn- og utflyttede 1871, side 357.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5783&idx_id=5783&uid=ny&idx_side=-365

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921010251.jpg

[bergiverson]

Martin Julius Ereksen

Norway, Marriages, 1660-1926 marriage: 2 April 1871 Oslo, Oslo, Norway

• spouse:Ragne Berthine Hakonsdatter
  

[bergiverson]

Lysning see # 5

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Vestre Aker, Lysningsprotokoll nr. 1 (1865-1878), Lysninger 1871, uten sidenr.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4874&idx_id=4874&uid=ny&idx_side=-97

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060717010036.jpg

 

Also in my entry # 9 the church record said they went to Australia 1871 but I think this is in error.

[bergiverson]

Marriage of Martin Julius Eriksen & Ragna Berthine in Vestre Aker 2 April 1871

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Vestre Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1855-1877), Ekteviede 1871, side 225.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=758&idx_id=758&uid=ny&idx_side=-231

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060208030231.jpg

 

[Lars E. Øyane]

Thanks to bergiverson we now have an identification of the marriage as well as the emigration of this couple! This information is also very much appreciated by their descendants.

 

Here is a message I have received today from the lady who started this inquiry:

 

"Dear Lars,

I have been in contact with Garnett Johnson, she provided me with your email information. How exciting the news is that you found on my family! I am very interested to get it figured out - I have a friend that lives near me from Sweden, and she said she would probably be able to help me with the Norwegian language that some of the records are in.

Just a quick note, my mother lives on the farm that Ole Tallakson purchased in about 1881 in Winnebago County, IL. It is now considered a 'Centennial Farm' in Illinois. Next year my Mother's barn will be 100 years old, being built in 1914 by Fred & Kate (Ingwalson) Tallakson. (Fred is the son of Ole Tallakson & Jane Pederson) (Kate is the daughter of Julius Martin Ingwalson & Ragna Engebretson). My family wants to have a celebration in 2014 to remember our Norwegian ancestors, so I would like to learn as much as possible as I can about them.

Ole Tallakson is also from Norway, I do not know too much about him. He was born about 1830 in Norway, and died in 1885. He is buried in a local cemetery in Laona Township, Winnebago County, IL. Jane Pederson, I have a lot of information about. Someone here in the USA has researched and written a book about Jane's family.

It is nice to meet you, and I thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Sherry Meinert"

 

Very sincerely yours,

 

Lars E. Oyane

[bergiverson]

Martin Julius Eriksen 22.04.1871 on the bark " Anna Delius " to Quebec,Canada

Destination Milwaukee,Wisc.USA Martin arrived Quebec 7.06.1871.Ragna was not with him.

 

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=15&filnamn=em03011867tillegg&gardpostnr=9291&merk=9291#ovre

[Steinar Vasaasen]

Jeg vet ikke om det er av interesse, men jeg kan bekrefte at Ingvald Syversen og Berte Dyresdatter ble gift i Stange 10.01.1834. Han er da 33 år og hun 23 år. 1865-tellingen i innleggg 1 antydet at hun var hele 53 år da Hilda ble født. Dette var jo ikke særlig sannsynlig. Det passer derfor bedre når det viser seg at hun er 10 år yngre.