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James Kelly

Hallo,

 

My wife's great grand parents came from Norway.  About a month ago I decided to see what I could find regarding her Norwegian roots.  She was lucky enough to have some family documents that aimed me in the right direction.  With some help from Anette Clausen at Digitalarkivet and Family Search I believe I have traced her ancestors back three generations.  Using what looks like a well documented public family tree on Ancestry I have added another 2 generations.

 

I am looking for someone who would be willing to look at my work and confirm for me that I am correct.  I believe all of the records are there for me to see, but am stymied by my inability to read Norwegian.

 

I am also looking for someone that can help me figure out where my wife's ancestors lived.  We love to travel, but I hate sightseeing, so going to places that have a personal meaning is my way of seeing the world. 

 

Can anyone willing to help?  I would certainly be willing to reciprocate if folks need help researching descendants in America.

 

Jim Kelly

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Kjell Arne Brudvik

If you post your research here then it would be easier for people to help you. By doing so you open up so that several people can verify the data, spreading the work load. However, if for some reason you cannot do that - I can be of assistance to look it over. In that case you can send me a PM with the details or ask for my email :)

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James Kelly

I hope the attachment comes through.

 

I appreciate your suggestion.  If it doesn't make it I will try a text version.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Kelly

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Ann-Mary Engum

Name: Peter Hanson Event Type: Census Event Year: 1900 Event Place: Sherwood Forest & Lynn towns, Clark, Wisconsin, United States Gender: Male Age: 56 Marital Status: Married Race: White Race (Original): W Relationship to Head of Household: Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Years Married: 10 Birth Date: Feb 1844 Birthplace: Norway Marriage Year (Estimated): 1890 Immigration Year: 1868 Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

 

Peter Hanson

Head M 56 Norway

 

Rena Hanson

Wife F 42 Norway

 

Mary T Hanson

Daughter F 7 Wisconsin

 

Christ E Hanson

Son M 9 Wisconsin

 

Clara S Hanson

Daughter F 5 Wisconsin

 

Stella Hanson

Daughter F 4 Wisconsin

 

Andrew J Hanson

Son M 1 Wisconsin

 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMKQ-PS4

 

 

Peter I. Hanson

Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930

birth:   Norway marriage: 23 December 1890 La Crosse, Wisconsin father: Hans Thorstenson mother: Anne Thorstenson spouse: Sevrine Sivertson other: Sivert Larson, Kathrine Larson

 

 

Theodor Hansen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 23 February 1844   christening: 17 March 1844 Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1844 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Torstensen mother: Anne Marie Botolfsdatter

 

Sofie Antonette Hansdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 4 January 1846   christening: 25 January 1846 Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1846 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Thorstinsen mother: Anne Marie Batholfsdatter

 

Sorine Hansdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 21 March 1849   christening: 9 April 1849 Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1849 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Thorstensen mother: Anne Marie Botholfsdatter

 

Carl Hansen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 16 February 1852   christening: 14 March 1852 Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1852 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Tostensen mother: Anne Marie Botolfsdatter

 

 

Christian Hansen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 19 November 1854   christening: 17 December 1854 Vestre Aker, Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1854 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Tostensen mother: Anne Marie Bottolfsdatter

 

Maren Hansdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 14 February 1856   christening: 15 March 1857 Vestre Aker, Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence: 1856 Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Hans Tostensen mother: Anne Marie Botolfsdatter  

 

 

MARRIAGE:

Hans Torstensen

Norway, Marriages, 1660-1926

marriage: 19 April 1843 Domkirken,Oslo,Akershus,Norway spouse: Anne Marie Botolfsdt

 

Lysningsprotokoll

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Lysningsprotokoll nr. 1 (1837-1849), Lysninger 1843, uten sidenr.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7378&idx_id=7378&uid=ny&idx_side=-29
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061006050712.jpg

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Ministerialbok nr. 19 (1828-1847), Ekteviede 1843, side 662-663.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=661&idx_id=661&uid=ny&idx_side=-339
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060215040516.jpg

     

 

 

1865-telling for 0301 Christiania

  

2109 2177 453 212 Maridalsveien (General Glads Arbeiderbolig) (NB skal være No 223. M E Nord) Gamle Akers Menighed Christiania Underskrift: M E Nord 79

           

 

 

48688

1 1 Hans Torstens. Huusfader Møllekjører g 53 m Drøbak fglass.gif

 

48689

2   Anne Maria Bottolfsd. hans Hustru   g 51 k Aker fglass.gif

 

48690

3   Sørine Hansd. hans Datter   ug 17 k Christiania fglass.gif

 

48691

4   Karl Hans. hans Søn   ug 14 m Christiania fglass.gif

 

48692

5   Kristian Hans. hans Søn   ug 12 m Christiania fglass.gif

 

48693

6   Maren Hansd. hans Datter   ug 8 k Christiania fglass.gif

 

48694

7   Anne Helene Hansd.* hans Datter   ug 7 k Christiania fglass.gif

 

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=16&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=2109&personpostnr=48688&merk=48688#ovre

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Anne Marie Botolfsdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

christening: 7 January 1816 Oslo, Oslo, Norway residence:   Oslo, Oslo, Norway father: Botolf Haagensen mother: Sidsel Larsdatter

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Aker, Klokkerbok nr. 2 (1815-1819), Fødte og døpte 1815-1816, side 50-51.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7691&idx_id=7691&uid=ny&idx_side=-27
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061108010465.jpg

                       

 

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Sidsel Larsdatter

Norway, Marriages, 1660-1926

birth: 1791   marriage: 16 February 1816 Oslo, Oslo, Norway spouse: Botolf Haagensen  

 

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Aker, Klokkerbok nr. 2 (1815-1819), Ekteviede 1816, side 402-403.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7691&idx_id=7691&uid=ny&idx_side=-151
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061108020013.jpg

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James Kelly

Ann-Mary Engum,

 

Thank you very much for what you have provided.

 

Is the following information from a Census and if so which one?     "1865-telling for 0301 Christiania  2109 2177 453 212 Maridalsveien (General Glads Arbeiderbolig) (NB skal være No 223. M E Nord) Gamle Akers Menighed Christiania Underskrift: M E Nord 79".  I am guessing the 1865 Norway Census.

 

Thanks again,

 

Jim Kelly

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James Kelly

Can someone explain to me how to search for a specific document,  For example, I used FamilySearch to locate the marriage of LARS JOHNSEN MYKLEBUST FJERTOFL to *GRETHE ANDFINDSDR FLEM, on 10 Aug 1823, at Haram, Møre og Romsdal, Norway.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Kelly.

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Hello. :)

 

First select county in the digitised parish registers: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read
In this case: Møre og Romsdal

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All the church books are then listed: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=15&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j

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Select the relevant book - here:
 

Haram / Haram: 1818-1847, Parish register (official)

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Select Marriage records and relevant year.

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Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Haram in Haram, Parish register (official) nr. 536A04 (1818-1847), Marriage records 1824, page 193.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16021&idx_id=16021&uid=ny&idx_side=-139
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070903670029.jpg
On this page you will find the entry as no. 52.

To make a permanent link to the page in the church book:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/183464-hvordan-lage-en-fungerende-lenke-fra-en-kirkebokside-en-kort-veiledning/?p=1557019


Tips on how to set the control panel to send out email notifications when there are new postings in your theme: http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/179082-tips-om-ulike-funksjoner-og-redigeringsmuligheter-i-forumene-paa-digitalarkivet/?p=1525505

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Let me once again start with a thank you for your kindness.  It is apparent that I should have taken Norwegian in High School instead of Wood Shop.  The Digital Archives have me stumped.  I know there is a Marriage Record for Hans Torstensen and Anne Marie Botolfsdt, (In fact there are two which stumps me.) but when I search I can not find them.

 

Is there someone out there that can take my tree (above) and:

 

1.   confirm what I have,

 

2.  provide me with the supporting documentation,

 

 

I would be willing to pay for your time.

 

My email is:  j.kelly@frontiernet.net.

 

Jim Kelly

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Olaf Larsen

Hi Jim.

You have been given the marriage date and links to the entry by Ann-Mary Engum above.

 

The entry also gives their birthplace and name of their fathers: Hans born in Aasnæs, father Torsten Anderssen, and Anne Marie born in Aker, father soldier Botolf Haagensen. The marriage entry in the parish records look like this:

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Ann-Mary Engum

  • Tellingsår: 1875
  • Kommune: Kristiania
  • Kommunenummer: 0301
  • Gatenavn: Maridalsveien 145
  • Gatenr:
  • Bydel:
  • Gårdeier:
  • Antall leiligheter: 5

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 14

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

 

Hans Tossensen

hf g Dagarbeider 1813 Aas Præstegjeld Drøbak  

 

Anne Marie Bottolfdatter

kone g   1815 Kristiania  

 

Christian Hansen

s ug Dagarbeider 1854 Kristiania  

 

Anne Helene Hansen

d ug   1859 Kristiania  

 

Lovisa Flink

Logerende ug Fabrikvæverske Nydalen 1843 Dalsland Sverige  

 

Ammund Engebretsen

Husleier g Dagarbeider 1849 Næs Romerige  

 

Anna Chajsa Nylander

kone g   1841 Kjøla Sverige  

 

Albert Edvin Ammunsen

s ug   1873 Kristiania  

 

Sven Arvid Ammunsen

s ug   1875 Kristiania  

 

Søren Christiansen

hf g Overkonstabel 1842 Trygstad Prestegjeld  

 

Oline Olsdater

kone g   1833 Kristiania  

 

Julie Kristiansen

d ug   1869 Kristiania  

 

Karl Karlsen

Fostersønn ug   1863 Kristiania  

 

Karoline Andersen

Logerende ug Væverske, Nydalen 1841 Kristiania

 

http://rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0301&kenr=040&bnr=2238&lnr=00

Hi Jim.

You have been given the marriage date and links to the entry by Ann-Mary Engum above.

 

The entry also gives their birthplace and name of their fathers: Hans born in Aasnæs, father Torsten Anderssen, and Anne Marie born in Aker, father soldier Botolf Haagensen. The marriage entry in the parish records look like this:

 

Til Olaf.

 

Hans Tostensen var ikke født i Aasnes.

 

Det står  " født i Aas nu Son"

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Ministerialbok nr. 19 (1828-1847), Ekteviede 1843, side 662-663.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=661&idx_id=661&uid=ny&idx_side=-339

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060215040516.jpg

 

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Forlovererklæringer 1843

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Forlovererklæringer nr. 17 (1842-1846), Forlovererklæringer 1843, uten sidenr.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7376&idx_id=7376&uid=ny&idx_side=-19
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061006050313.jpg

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1885-teljinga for 0301 Kristiania

 

5910 252 145 Maridalsveien Kristiania

 

 

130750 1 1 Hans Thorstens. 1813 m Drøbak Huseier fglass.gif

 

130751

2   Anne Helene Hans. 1859 k T fglass.gif

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=f80301&gardpostnr=5910&personpostnr=130750&merk=130750#ovre

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What does Tellingsår: 1875 mean?  Is it the 1875 Norway Census?


 


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Ann-Mary Engum

Yes

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Olaf Larsen

 

 

Det står  " født i Aas nu Son"

Takker for rettelsen, jeg syntes det var en litt rar måte å skrive Aasnes på... :D

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James Kelly

Can any one tell me how to look up a record using the URN-NBN number?

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Can any one tell me how to look up a record using the URN-NBN number?

 

I'm not sure I understand your question? Normally, you should not need any indexing numbering lookups. If so, I expect you are trying to access the records a wrong and cumbersome way.

 

It is summer vacation in Norway, so the members' forum response may be somewhat slow.

 

Best regards,

Stian

 

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Stan,

 

Thanks, 

 

Are you familiar with Family Search?  if you are then you know every film/picture has a distinct number so if I need to go back and find a document, I can search by the name, date, place, etc. or I can plug in the document number and access it directly.  I happen to have some URN-NBN numbered documents but the file size is very small so I can not blow them up.  I want to look up the file and copy it onto my computer so I can open it in Photoshop and look at it as well as enhance it.

 

Jim Kelly

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Stan,

 

Thanks, 

 

Are you familiar with Family Search?  if you are then you know every film/picture has a distinct number so if I need to go back and find a document, I can search by the name, date, place, etc. or I can plug in the document number and access it directly.  I happen to have some URN-NBN numbered documents but the file size is very small so I can not blow them up.  I want to look up the file and copy it onto my computer so I can open it in Photoshop and look at it as well as enhance it.

 

Jim Kelly

 

Sorry, I misread. I jumped to the conclusion that your question was an issue with the Norwegian national archives. No, I am not an expert on Familysearch. Familysearch is a nice secondary source, but I always prefer to use the primary one. Sorry for my comment.

 

Best regards,

Stian

 

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Anne-Lise Hansen

You must have opened the image link and yes, that is too small. The pagelink is better, because there you can choose image size up to 150% and even enlarge it further with [ctrl] [+].

 

If you look at the right hand side on top of the page, you will also find PDF choices for the image.

 

When you save the page link to your genealogy program, copy the line under the source information, and in that way, you will be able to access the image directly,

 

How to make permanent links to churchbooks (both in Norwegian and in English): http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/183464-hvordan-lage-en-fungerende-lenke-fra-en-kirkebokside-en-kort-veiledning/#entry1557019

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Stian,

 

Let me try my question again.  I have a list of URN-NBN numbers for documents I want copies of.  Can I search by the URN-NBN number ?  yes [  ]  no [  ].

 

If the answer is yes [ x ] how do I do it.

 

Jim

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Inger Karin Haarbye

No you can't.  It is no search in this records at all. But of course, you can make URL if you have what you call URN-NBN numbers.

 

Look at this reference to a page:

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo Hospital / Gamlebyen, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1734-1818), Ekteviede 1799-1802, side 168.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7401&idx_id=7401&uid=ny&idx_side=-173
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061010010401.jpg
The first line is information about book/page.

The second line is what you need to find the record (!).

The last line is only URL for an image file. 

 

If you have "URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061010010401" you can put "http://www.arkivverket.no/ in front and ".jpg" last and paste into your browser, and you will get the image. But it is no way to go from the image to the record (second line). 

 

The reference URL you need is in the second line.

The first line is the correct reference that will "never" change, it is the direct reference to the church book page regardless of presentation method, but it is no internet reference.

 

(I have never seen images for norwegian church books on FamilySearch)

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