Birth of Louis Anderson etc.

[Tove D. Johansen]

Barbu is just outside Arendal. I believe that Olof Albin could be the Louis you are searching for.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

I agree. I also thought of Sweden when I saw the name Axel.

 

I find this family living in Lilla Anrås Mellangård (in Tanum, Bohuslän, Sweden) in the periode 1866-1870:

Tanum AI:27 (1866-1870) Bild 11 / sid 3b (AID: v259.b11.s3b, NAD: SE/GLA/13545)

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They moved here from Quille (Kville) parish November 15^th  1867.

See picture:

 

Endret Desember 14, 2014 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

1874, October 1^st they move to Arendal, Norway.

Tanum AI:31 (1871-1875) Bild 13 / sid 6 (AID: v263.b13.s6, NAD: SE/GLA/13545)

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Endret Desember 14, 2014 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Austre Moland

Austre Moland hørte inntil 1747 til Holt prestegjeld. Ved reskr. 02.03.1742 ble Austre Moland, Tromøy og Barbu skilt ut som eget prestegjeld. Ved kgl. res. 11.09.1877 ble prestegjeldet delt i tre: Tromøy prestegjeld, Barbu prestegjeld og Austre Moland prestegjeld. Stokken fikk egen kirke i 1879 og ble da regnet som kirkesokn under Austre Moland. Ved kgl. res. 1963 ble det bestemt at Flosta sokn fra 01.01.1972 skulle overføres fra Dypvåg prestegjeld til Austre Moland prestegjeld.

 

(From parih history for Aust-Agder: http://www.arkivverket.no/arkivverket/Bruk-av-arkiv/Slekt/Hovedkilder/Kirkeboeker/Soknehistorikk/Aust-Agder )

[Tove D. Johansen]

Yes, I was also thinking Sweden when I saw the information that one of his children was named Albin. Typical Swedish name. Also Axel is much more used in Sweden than in Norway.

 

Here is the death/burial of father Axel (Aksel) in Arendal 6th October 1929. He was a widower.

 

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Arendal, Klokkerbok nr. B 8 (1928-1939), Døde og begravede 1929, side 303.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=975&idx_id=975&uid=ny&idx_side=-242

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051220010242.jpg

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

The children are not listed in the death protocol, since he lived in a home for elderly people (Thorbjørnsbo) and there was nothing to inherit:

 

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Arendal by, Dødsfallsprotokoll 5 (SAK/1222-0001/H/Ha/L0005), 1926-1935, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kristiansand.

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/35297/74/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk10411112190074.jpg

(Nr. 98 - on the right)

 

Endret Desember 13, 2014 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Tove D. Johansen]

1900 census for Barbu

 

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037215001347

 

1910 census for Arendal

 

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036543006569

 

In 1910 Aksel was living with the Family of his son in Law.

[Hans Gangstø]

Possible candidate?

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000282800

 

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Fornavn: Louis Etternavn: Andersen

Kjønn: m Fødselsdato:

Fødselsår: 1868 Alder:

Fødested: Bosted: Tønsberg

Stilling/stand: Skibstømmermand Familiestilling:

Utreisedato: 21.09.1894 Utreisehavn: Kristiansand

Reisemål: New York Ankomstdato:

Skip: Linje: Scandia

Agent: Årsak:

Nytt yrke: Har billett?:

Har pass?: Reiser med familie?:

Merknader: Ekspedert dato:

 

Vis flere felt

 

 

Note - he has emigrated at some time earlier and is thus returning to the US.

Emigrasjon

 

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Id: og00000000282800 Løpenummer: 1409

Protokollreferanse: Side:

År: 1894 Prestegjeld:

Merknader: TIDLIGERE UDVANDRET

Endret Desember 13, 2014 av Hans Gangstø

[Tove D. Johansen]

Olof Albin (Louis?) also had some younger brothers who were born in Barbu outside Arendal. I don't know if any of those names would be familiar to you?

Karl Oskar born 1874

Johan Nikolai born 1877

Anders Bertinius born 1880

Aksel Kristian born 1883

[N. van der Brugge]

Hei you all !

 

I think you have catched a very big "laks". I mailed the information to the USA and hope to receive a very cheerful reaction.

I just returned home so that I could not react earlier.

Have a nice weekend.

N. van der brugge.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Olof Albin's baptismal record from Tanum parish in 1868.

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Source: Tanum C:7 (1861-1870) Bild 146 (AID: v286.b146, NAD: SE/GLA/13545)

 

[N. van der Brugge]

Thanks. Can't read what is written behind Axel And. and August. And. (La Anr....?).

Take it that August and Anna Christina are witnesses.

[Tove D. Johansen]

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Arendal mønstringskrets, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 3 (SAK/2031-0012/F/Fa/L0003), 1880-1892, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kristiansand.

Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle nr. 1911-3827 med register

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/42362/163/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-ru20090317660581.jpg

 

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Arendal mønstringskrets, Hovedruller med registre, Hovedrulle 17 (SAK/2031-0012/F/Fb/L0017), 1884-1892, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kristiansand.

Merknader: Hovedrulle A nr. 5323-6076

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/42435/315/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-ru20090319770703.jpg

 

From seamens rolls.

Oluf Albin Axelsen [Anderson] "jumped ship" in New York 6th December 1886. He left the ship without having obtained permission to do so. Many sailors emigrated in that way.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Yes, August Andersson and Anna Stina Andersdotter are witnesses and they are living at the same place as Axel and Anna Christina - L:a (Lilla) Anrås.

[N. van der Brugge]

# Hei all,

 

My American friend is not yet convinced that Louis O and Olof Albin Anderson are the same persons. She prefers to discuss this issue with her cousins and to visit another US Archive. I have read a hand written family's letter stating that the ascendants are from Oslo, but without any proof. That's the problem.

 

# Anne-Lise Johansen

I remember that you  informed me of a link regarding the birth and christening of Olaf Albin. When I tried to open this link (picture) I was informed that I was not allowed to do so. Lateron I tried to do it again but I can no longer find your information. Will you please mail or show me the picture, if possible.

Another question:  is there a census available of Arendal showing the stay of Olav and his family there?

Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice weekend.

Nico van der Brugge.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Olof Albin's baptismal record from Tanum parish in 1868.

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Olof Albin born and baptized in 1868.jpg

 

Olof Albins baptismal record.jpg

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Source: Tanum C:7 (1861-1870) Bild 146 (AID: v286.b146, NAD: SE/GLA/13545)

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Can you still not open the picture? In that case you can send me your email address in a PM.

[Lars Johannessen]

Census 1900:

Louis Johnson
United States Census, 1900
Name: Louis Johnson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Precinct 7 Boston city Ward 2, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Years Married: 7
Birth Date: Jul 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1893
Immigration Year: 1881
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Louis Johnson Head M 32 Norway
Onga Johnson Wife F 25 Norway
Louise Johnson Daughter F 7 Massachusetts
George A Johnson Son M 4 Massachusetts
John Johnson Son M 2 Massachusetts
District: 1181 , Sheet Number and Letter: 4A , Household ID: 75 , Line Number: 41 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: T623 , GS Film Number: 1240676 , Digital Folder Number: 004114440 , Image Number: 00565

 

Census 1910:

Louis Johnson
United States Census, 1910
Name: Louis Johnson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Boston Ward 1, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1869
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1885
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Louis Johnson Head M 41 Norway
Inga E Johnson Wife F 34 Norway
Louise M Johnson Daughter F 16 Massachusetts
George A Johnson Son M 14 Massachusetts
John A Johnson Son M 11 Massachusetts
Anna K Johnson Daughter F 9 Massachusetts
William A Johnson Son M 7 Massachusetts
Olof B Johnson Son M 5 Massachusetts
Lillian K Johnson Daughter F 2 Massachusetts
District: 1266 , Sheet Number and Letter: 4A , Household ID: 42 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: M1283 , GS Film number: 1374627 , Digital Folder Number: 004330095 , Image Number: 00064

 

In both censuses the family use the Johnson surname, not Anderson. 

[Tove D. Johansen]

I am convinced that we have found the right Louis Anderson, born in Sweden, but growing up in Barbu just outside and today incorporated in Arendal.

 

I have helped many Americans with finding their ancestors in Norway. And quite often the information they have is not a hundred percent correct.

 

Have you got any more information about the wife Inga Konstanse, born in Oslo.

In which church in Oslo was she baptised?

 

There is one Inga Johansen born 1875 on the 1885 census, she is living in a home for children (girls) in Oslo.

 

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257052515

 

You ask about censuses for Arendal. Censuses for 1875 and 1885 are on the digital archive. But this family lived just outside Arendal - in Barbu.

Endret Januar 19, 2015 av Tove D. Johansen

[Tove D. Johansen]

Wife of shoemaker Andersen: Anna Kristine Andersen born 1844 died in Barbu 7th August 1910.

After her death the widower Aksel Andersen went to live with his daughter Alida Mathisen and her family in Arendal.

 

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036543006569

 

At least one of Alida's sons Axel Mathisen is buried in Arendal.

[Lars Johannessen]

Found a marriage in Boston 03 Jul 1893, between Olof Anderson b. 1868, parents Axel and Christine, and Inga Johansen, parents Johan and Marie. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N475-889

 

 

[Tove D. Johansen]

There is one Inga Constanse born 27th April 1875 at Rikshospitalet (the National hospital) and baptised 9th May same place.

Parents: Olava Charlotte Jensen and Carl Johan Johansen. Parents were not married.

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Rikshospitalet, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1871-1885), Fødte og døpte 1875, side 76.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5824&idx_id=5824&uid=ny&idx_side=-78

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060926010207.jpg

[N. van der Brugge]

#Tove D. Johansen

You were speaking of an home for children where Inga lived in 1885. She was only 10 years old then. Was it an orphanage? In that case her parents were already dead. Is it possible for you to check that?

[Tove D. Johansen]

Of course I cannot say if that is your Inga Johansen. It was a home for children (only girls). So probably her parents were dead. Or if she was born illegitimate that at least her mother could be dead. Or at least that the parents or other relatives were not able to take care of the child.

 

Do you have a date of birth for Inga? I think you have mentioned that you have some information about her?

 

There is one Inga Johansen (18 years old) who emigrates May 5th 1893 with destination Boston. Looks like she is travelling alone.

 

Could this be the same Inga who was married in Boston July 3rd 1893? Her age - 18 - should be correct.

 

If this is the right Inga, then they must have met in Norway (probably Oslo)

 

Do the descendants know any names of siblings of Louis Anderson?

Endret Januar 19, 2015 av Tove D. Johansen

[Tove D. Johansen]

 

Now I have found the right Inga Konstance born March 10th 1875. She was born in Østre Aker, which was at that time not incorporated in Oslo.

 

Her parents were shoemaker Johannes Bergersen and Elen Marie Gulbrandsen (Gulbrandsen is not correct).  Parents were married 1869 in Østre Aker:

 

Johan Bernhard Bergersen and Elen Marie Amundsdatter  (no. 28)

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Østre Aker, Klokkerbok nr. 3 (1868-1913), Ekteviede 1869, side 388.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5785&idx_id=5785&uid=ny&idx_side=-399

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921010807.jpg

 

In 1875 Johan Bernhard Bergersen was in the Gaustad asylum for insane (1875 census for Østre Aker is on FamilySearch)

Endret Januar 19, 2015 av Tove D. Johansen

[N. van der Brugge]

This is the right Inga. Her emigration to the US was already known, but nevertheless, thanks. The descendants are also known, like they were mentioned by Bente L Skjager on Dec. 11 in this forum. I'm of opinion that Louis O.Anderson = Olof Albin Anderson but the American friend would prefer to have it proved by a document but they don't possess same. That's why she will contact the Boston archive herself, but searching there is not so easy. I await her reply and I will keep you informed.