Anton Antonson Skien, Telemark, Norway

[Jake Peterson]

Hello all; forgive me, I don't speak norwegian. Found out about your site through family tree magazine.

 

Looking for 2nd great grandfather, Ant(h)on Ant(h)onson born about 1871 in Skien, Telemark, Norway; married Hannah or Annie Olson. Anthon died bet 1921-1922 in America. Anna was born 24 Mar 1872 in Skien, Telemark, Norway, according to death record. parents' name on record were listed as Joseph Skien and Annie Olson. I have no information on Anthon's parents other then the census below.

 

Anton and Annie had 5 children-3 born in Norway:

 

Albert Antonson 16 Nov 1899 Oslo

Mary Olive Antonson 22 Nov 1900 Oslo

Rolf or Ralph Antonson born around 1902

 

they imigrated in 1903 on the ship St. Olaf to Fosston, Minnesota.

 

Here is Anton in 1875 Skien census, living with mother's parents:

 

1875 Skien Census

3657 4 1 Nils Larsen m hf (Logerende) g Bjælkehugger 1809 Gjerpen Pr. b 1ste Etage
3658 5 Marie Larsen k Hans Kone g 1816 Gjerpen Pr. b 1ste Etage
3659 6 Axel Nilsen m s ug Matros 1853 Gjerpen Pr. b 1ste Etage
3660 7 Johan Nilsen m s ug Matros 1855 Gjerpen Pr. b 1ste Etage
3661 8 Anne Nilsen k d 1861 Gjerpen Pr. b 1ste Etage
3662 9 Anton Antonsen m Dattersøn 1871 Skien b 1ste Etage

 

Any help appreciated!

 

Jake
 

[Ann-Mary Engum]

.

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Mette R Francke]

Hi  

 

Maybe

 

Census 1865 Skien

 

001 01 Niels Larssen Kjæra 57 Gjerpen Prgj. Husfader g Bjælkehugger

002 01 Marie Gundersdatter 48 Sansvær Prgj. hans Kone g

003 01 Axel Nielsen 14 Gjerpen Prgj. deres Søn ug

004 01 Johan Nielsen 10 Gjerpen Prgj. deres Søn ug

005 01 Gurine Nielsdatter 21 Gjerpen Prgj. deres Datter ug

006 01 Anne Nielsdatter 5 Gjerpen Prgj. deres Datter ug

007 01 Tor Kittilsen Myra 57 Gjerpen Prgj. Logerende ug Bensanker

 

 

Anton born August 29 august 1871..

Parents are not married.

Mother Marianne Nielsdatter

Father Hans Anton E *** stone

 

One of the godparents is Marie Gundersdatter.

Could this be your grandmother?

 

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Skien, Klokkerbok nr. 5 (1868-1880), Fødte og døpte 1871, side 31. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7893&idx_id=7893&uid=ny&idx_side=-33
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061207040353.jpg

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Mette R Francke

[Ann-Mary Engum]

?

 

Anton Antonsen,confirmed  1896.

 

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Skien, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1878-1890), Konfirmerte 1886, side 208.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3556&idx_id=3556&uid=ny&idx_side=-211
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060518040211.jpg

[Jake Peterson]

Thanks for finding the images. Could you please translate the records? I don't read norwegian. You said side 31? Do you mean number 31? the page ends at 25.

Oops, posted too soon. deeply apologize.

[Jake Peterson]

Wow! Thanks so much! It wouldn't suprise me if that was his grandmother that was his godmother. Seems odd that it wouldn't be someone younger. Does it show ages of parents at time of Anton's birth? Too bad that E***Stone name is unreadable. is that the name of the farm he was living on?

[Stian Høiset]

Thanks for finding the images. Could you please translate the records? I don't read norwegian. You said side 31? Do you mean number 31? the page ends at 25.

Oops, posted too soon. deeply apologize.

 

Anton was born out of wedlock. The baptize record reads:

 

Born 23 August, baptized 29 August: Anton, born out of wedlock ("uægte"). The mother is Maren Nilsdatter, and she has listed Hans Anton Enertsen as father.

 

The last column lists the witnesses to the baptism: Just (that's a man's name) Sørensen, Bent Gundersen, John Gundersen, Marie Gundersen and Gunhild Olsdatter.

 

The 1875 census lists that his mother's father is named Nils Larsen and his mother's mother is named Marie Larsen. Anton's role in the household is "son of daughter" ("dattersønn").

 Too bad that E***Stone name is unreadable. is that the name of the farm he was living on?

 

No, Enertsen is a patronymic. It means that Hans Anton's father probably was called Enert or Einar as his first name. They lived in "Nordre Brekkejordet", which is a part of the Skien city.

 

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Stian Høiset

[Jake Peterson]

Thanks for all your help! Wonder how far back I could go with this research? Also have to wonder how many kids Nils and Marie had, since in 1865, they have a 21 year old daughter and some kids under 10....

[Ann-Mary Engum]

 

Mariane Nielsdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 11 August 1842   christening: 25 September 1842 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY residence: 1842 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Maria Gjorand Gundersdr

 

Jorgen Lauritz Nilsen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 15 January 1844 , LARVIK, VESTFOLD, NORWAY residence: 1844 Larvik, Vestfold, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Maren Gundersdr

 

Gurine Nielsdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 12 March 1845   christening: 18 May 1845 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY residence: 1845 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Maria Gundersdr

 

Lars Nielsdatter

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 10 May 1848   christening: 23 July 1848 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY residence: 1848 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Maria Gundersdr

 

 

Axel Nielsen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 1 May 1852   christening: 6 June 1852 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY residence: 1852 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Maria Gundersdr

 

Johan Nielsen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 24 February 1856   christening: 18 May 1856 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY residence: 1856 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Niels Larsen mother: Marie Gundersdr

 

 

Anne

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

christening: 11 August 1861 GJERPEN, TELEMARK, NORWAY father: Nils Larsen mother: Mari Gundersdr

[Mette R Francke]

Hi

 

I can not find Anton and family in census 1900.

The emigres in 1903 and then settled in Skien

 

Anton Antonsen Skien 32 1903 Minnesota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930

Hanna Antonsen Skien 32 1903 Minnesota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930

Albert Antonsen Skien 3 1903 Minnesota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930

Marry Antonsen Skien 2 1903 Minnesota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930

Rolf Antonsen Skien 1 1903 Minnesota Emigranter over Oslo 1867-1930

 

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000542859

 

 

Skien 1885

001 00 Johan Paulus Johnsen 1839 Gjerpen Arbeider

002 00 Maren Gurine Johnsen 1840 Gjerpen

003 00 Kirsten Karoline Johnsen 1872 Skien

004 00 Marie Nilsen 1816 Gjærpen

005 00 Mariane Nilsen 1843 Gjærpen

006 00 Johan Nilsen 1856 Gjærpen Sømand

007 00 Anthon Antonsen 1871 Skien

 

 

Nordre Brekkejordet 35

 

Mette

 

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Mette R Francke

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Gjoran Marie Gundersdr

Norway, Marriages, 1660-1926

birth: 1816   marriage: 4 February 1841 Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway father: Gunder Bentzen spouse: Niels Larsen other: Lars Larsen

 

 

 

They married feb 4 182,not feb 4 1841.

 

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Gjerpen, Ministerialbok nr. 7B (1834-1857), Ekteviede 1842, side 252.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7797&idx_id=7797&uid=ny&idx_side=-21
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061128090256.jpg

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Stian Høiset]

Thanks for all your help! Wonder how far back I could go with this research? Also have to wonder how many kids Nils and Marie had, since in 1865, they have a 21 year old daughter and some kids under 10....

 

Correction to my transcription: Anton's mother was called Marianne.

 

Since the children are born in Gjerpen, you're in luck, because the baptize records are transcribed and searchable.

[Jake Peterson]

Wow! This is so great! I'm very grateful!

Stian- Cool link. Although it says 1815 as the earliest date, most of the records seem to start in the 1830s. Darn, Was going to try and find Marie Gjoran Gunnersdatter's birth in 1815/1816.

[Stian Høiset]

Wow! This is so great! I'm very grateful!

Stian- Cool link. Although it says 1815 as the earliest date, most of the records seem to start in the 1830s. Darn, Was going to try and find Marie Gjoran Gunnersdatter's birth in 1815/1816.

 

Try this link. (In Norwegian, though). Google Translate is your friend :-)

A quick Norwegian genealogist language course:

 

Døpte = Baptized

Fødte = Born

Vielser = Marriages

Innflytting = Moving into parish

Utflytting = Moving out of parish

Døde = Dead

Begravede = Buried

[Leif Biberg Kristensen]

The father's name may be Hans Anton Enertsen or Hans Anton Evertsen; the n and v are hard to distinguish. However, I find a Hans Anton born in Gjerpen 1855 in Gard Strøm's register:

 

Hans Anton (Tvilling), 4/4-1855, Skipper Ernst Stribolt og Karen Marie, Austad.

 

If this is the same person, the patronym should be Ernstsen, but that is also often written as "Erentsen" which is very similar to "Enertsen". This guy is very young to become a father in 1871, but such things happen.

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Leif Biberg Kristensen

[Jake Peterson]

That's a little better. Still don't see any Maries or Gjorans that were born in 1815/1816....

Leif- That's an interesting match. My Anton was born in 1871, and his mother was born in 1842. Could she really have had a child in 1871 with a male who was 16? Seems a bit scandalous for the period....

Stian-

 

I have danish roots as well. Seems a lot of the names in the record appear to be spelled the same. LOL

[Stian Høiset]

That's a little better. Still don't see any Maries or Gjorans that were born in 1815/1816....

Leif- That's an interesting match. My Anton was born in 1871, and his mother was born in 1842. Could she really have had a child in 1871 with a male who was 16? Seems a bit scandalous for the period....

Stian-

 

I have danish roots as well. Seems a lot of the names in the record appear to be spelled the same. LOL

 

Age 29 and 16? That would be uncommon, but you never know ...

 

A little genealogy warning about unmarried women giving birth and naming the child's father in the 19th century: Sometimes it could be convenient for the female to name a person that just recently had left the parish in stead of the real father in order to keep a low profile in the local community. It could be due to adultery or shame. These cases can only be solved by a DNA profile matching.

[Jake Peterson]

Stian-Thanks! Good to know. Naming a 16 year old does just cry scandal, and doesn't seem like it'd be something to do if they wanted to avoid shame though.

[Mette R Francke]

Hi

 

Do you know which church Albert and Mary was baptized in ?

 

Mette

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Census 1865.

 

Marie Gundersdatter hans Kone g   1818 Sansvær Prgj.

 

http://www.rhd.uit.n...nr=0418&lnr=000

 

Sansvær = Sandsvær ,Buskerud ?

[Jake Peterson]

One of you wanted to know where they were in 1900 Census; I came across this:

 

Census year: 1900
Municipality: Skien
Municipality number: 0806
Street name: Kamperhauggade
Street number: 20
City district:
House owner:
Number of flats: 1
Number of persons in this domicile: 4

 

I alsosee there's an Anton Antonson in Hill River Township, Polk County, MN in 1895. Could he have immigrated twice?

 

1895 MN State Census: Hill River Township, Polk, MN

Hans Sorby         M     40y     Norway
Andrew Sorby         M     37y     Norway
Sever Sorby         M     34y     Norway
Christian Sorby         M     31y     Norway
Anton Antonson         M     24y     Norway
Hansine H Sorby         F     75y     Norway
Martine Rasmusen         F     19y     Minn
 

Mette-

 

No, don't know which church they were baptised in, but it had to be in Olso....

[Stian Høiset]

One of you wanted to know where they were in 1900 Census; I came across this:

 

Census year: 1900

Municipality: Skien

Municipality number: 0806

Street name: Kamperhauggade

Street number: 20

City district:

House owner:

Number of flats: 1

Number of persons in this domicile: 4

 

I alsosee there's an Anton Antonson in Hill River Township, Polk County, MN in 1895. Could he have immigrated twice?

 

1895 MN State Census: Hill River Township, Polk, MN

 

Hans Sorby         M     40y     Norway

Andrew Sorby         M     37y     Norway

Sever Sorby         M     34y     Norway

Christian Sorby         M     31y     Norway

Anton Antonson         M     24y     Norway

Hansine H Sorby         F     75y     Norway

Martine Rasmusen         F     19y     Minn

 

Mette-

 

No, don't know which church they were baptised in, but it had to be in Olso....

 

Please be advised that large portions of the 1900 Census in Skien are missing. According to my memory, around 3000 persons.

 

[Jake Peterson]

Stian- natural disaster?

[Stian Høiset]

Stian- natural disaster?

 

No. The National Archives do not know why.

[Mette R Francke]

Hi

 

Mary is baptiz in Skien

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Skien, Klokkerbok nr. 8 (1900-1910), Fødte og døpte 1901, side 9. 

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5992&idx_id=5992&uid=ny&idx_side=-12

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061128320239.jpg

 

 

Anton and Anna get married i 1899 i Skien ( nr 53 , page 292)-

 

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051003040287.jpg

 

I think this is Anna family

 

Tellingsår: 1865

Kommune: 0819

Kommunenummer: 0819

Navn på bosted: Kaasen

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 6. Trykk på  for å se på tidslinjen for personen.

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

Ole Tygesen Husfader g Husmand med Jord 1824 Holden

Anne Gurine Andreasdatter hans Kone g 1833 Holden

Anne Christine Olsdatter deres Datter ug 1857 Holden

Andreas Olsen deres Søn ug 1860 Holden

Tollef Olsen deres Søn ug 1862 Holden

Anders Olsen deres Søn ug 1864 Holden

 

Name: Ole Tygesen

Gender: Male

Wife: Anne Gurine Andreasdatter

Child: Anne Tygesen

Other information in the record of Anne Tygesen

from Norway, Baptisms

Name: Anne Tygesen

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 26 Mar 1872

Christening Date: 19 May 1872

Christening Place: Holla, Telemark, Norway

Father's Name: Ole Tygesen

Mother's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdatter

 

 

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Holla, Ministerialbok nr. 7 (1869-1881), Fødte og døpte 1872, side 29. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7910&idx_id=7910&uid=ny&idx_side=-30
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061124320362.jpg'

 

Nbr 29

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Holla i Holla, Klokkerbok nr. I 4 (1867-1890), Konfirmerte 1887, side 291. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7910&idx_id=7910&uid=ny&idx_side=-268
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20071023630323.jpg

 

 

Name: Ole Tygesen

Birth Date: 1823

Age: 33

Spouse's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdr

Spouse's Birth Date: 1833

Spouse's Age: 23

Event Date: 27 Dec 1856

Event Place: Holla,Telemark,Norway

Father's Name: Tyge Andersen

Spouse's Father's Name: Andreas Halvorsen

 

Anna Gurine

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Holla, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1830-1848), Fødte og døpte 1833, side 31. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7911&idx_id=7911&uid=ny&idx_side=-34
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061208050034.jpg

 

Ole #62

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Holla, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1815-1830), Fødte og døpte 1824, side 80. 

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1375&idx_id=1375&uid=ny&idx_side=-90
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051007040090.jpg

 

Ole parents

Name: Thyge Andersen

Birth Date: 1784

Age: 33

Spouse's Name: Anne Olsdr

Spouse's Birth Date: 1790

Spouse's Age: 27

Event Date: 19 Apr 1817

Event Place: Holla, Telemark, Norway

 

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Holla, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1815-1830), Ekteviede 1817, side 195. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1375&idx_id=1375&uid=ny&idx_side=-211
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051007040211.jpg

 

 

Mette

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Mette R Francke