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Nathy Juliane Gulbrandsdatter, f. 23.nov. 1865, Oslo

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Faren var Gulbrand Olsen, f. 16.okt. 1837 på Norderhov, bror til den kjente restauratør Martin Olsen som startet Dovrehallen i Oslo, moren var var Nathy Juliane Johnsen, hun døde av barselfeber 7 dager etter fødselen til Nathy.

Når Nathy blir døpt 6. mai 1866 bor hun og faren i Nedre Slottsgate 3.

Etter dette finner jeg dem ikke igjen. Noen som kan hjelpe ?

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Legger for ordens skyld inn lenke til dåpen i 1866:

 

Oslo fylke, Trefoldighet i Oslo, Ministerialbok nr. I 2 (1863-1870), Fødte og døpte 1866, Side 151
Permanent bilde-ID: kb20060213050155
 

 

 

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Nathy var født i november 1865. Finner denne Natti J Olson i US census 1900:

 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS3P-15G

 

Name: Natti J Olson
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Precinct 33 Chicago city Ward 15, Cook, Illinois, United States
District: 491
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Number of Living Children:
Years Married:
Birth Date: Nov 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated):
Immigration Year: 1871
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
 
 
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????

 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N74D-5V9

 

Name: James F. Metcalf
Age: 36
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Birth Date: 1867
Birthplace:
Spouse's Name: Natti J. Olson
Spouse's Age: 35
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1868
Spouse's Birth Date: 1868
Spouse's Birthplace:
License Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Nov 1903
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
 
 
 

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US Census 1940: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4MN-P4D

 

Name: Natti J Metcalf
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 43, Chicago, Chicago City, Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 74
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household:
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Last Place of Residence: San Diego, San Diego, California
 
 
 
Name: Natti J Metcalf
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: East San Diego, San Diego, California, United States
District: ED 241
Gender: Female
Age: 53
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Own or Rent:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1871
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
 
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James F Metcalf Head M 51 Ohio
Natti J Metcalf Wife F 53 Norway
 
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Name: Natti J Metcalf
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 13 Mar 1951
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Marital Status: Widowed
Ethnicity:
Race: White
Occupation: Housewife
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1865
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birthplace: Oslo, , Norway
Death Year (Estimated):
Funeral Home: H D Sheldon Incorporated
Burial Date:
Burial Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Graceland
Father's Name: Gilbert Olson
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Juliana Olson
Mother's Birthplace:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Gender:
Informant's Name: Fredd T Riechers
Record Number:
Entry Number: 17337
Source Reference:
Residence Place: 155 N Mason Avenue
 
 
 
 

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U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940

Name: Natty Juliane Olsen - post-5105-0-00876100-1478382614_thumb.png

Event Type: Confirmation

Birth Date: 23 Nov 1865

Confirmation Date: 18 Apr 1880

Father: Gilbert Olsen

Mother: Natty Juliane

Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran Church

Church Location: Chicago, Illinois

 

 

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Kan dette være Gulbrand Olsen - Gilbert Olson - med kone og datteren Nathy Juliane - Julie - i US Census 1880???

 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXNR-DQ1

 

Name: Gilbert Olson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
District: ED 103
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Wine Merchant
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
 
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Gilbert Olson Self M 42 Norway
Martha Olson Wife F 33 Norway
Julia Olson Daughter F 14 Norway
Josephina Hanson Sister-in-law F 18 Wisconsin, United States
Charles Clausen Other M 29 Norway
Hannah Clausen Other F 28 Wisconsin, United States
 
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Name: Martha Olson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 13 Mar 1889
Event Place: , Cook, Illinois, United States
Address:
Gender: Female
Age: 42
Age (Estimated):
Marital Status: Married
Ethnicity: American
Race: White
Occupation: HOUSEWIFE
Birth Date: 07 Mar 1847
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birthplace: NORWAY
Death Year (Estimated):
Funeral Home:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Cemetery: GRACELAND
Father's Name: Hans Olson
Mother's Name: Gertona Olson
Mother's Birthplace:
Spouse's Name: Gilbert Olson
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
 
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Name: Gilbert Olson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 22 May 1895
Event Place: , Cook, Illinois, United States
Address:
Gender: Male
Age: 57
Age (Estimated):
Marital Status: Widowed
Ethnicity: American
Race: White
Occupation: Saloon Keeper
Birth Date:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Cemetery: Graceland
 
 
 

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Ser ut som Martha var født i Vik i Sogn:

 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4JM-73P

 

Name: Martha Hansen
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1847
Birthplace:
Christening Date: 07 Mar 1847
Christening Place: , VIK I SOGN, SOGN OG FJORDANE, NORWAY
Christening Age:
Death Date:
Father's Name: Hans Olsen
Mother's Name: Gjertrud Solfestsdr
 
 

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Hvis jeg har funnet rette Gulbrand/Gilbert Olson, så var han saloon keeper. Jf. dette:

 

https://www.naha.stolaf.edu/pubs/nas/volume12/vol12_6.htm

 

Norwegian Clubs in Chicago {1
By Birger Osland  (Volume XII: Page 105)

 

"I had been in Chicago only a few years when I joined my first Norwegian club. This was known as the Venners (Friends') Debating Club, a truly Norwegian-American name for an association of clean-cut workingmen of limited education. The language used in the debates at our meetings was often entertainingly Norwegian-American. Nevertheless, the Venners Debating Club served its purpose. Many of the members learned something, and they made friends and connections that were pleasant and sometimes valuable.

 

I did not feel at home for long in this club and I attended only a few meetings. In 1891 I helped organize the Norrøna Literary Society, composed of a dozen young men who were more nearly my equals in education and previous training in Norway -- more congenial spirits, as it were. The rules of the Norrøna imposed on each member in succession the duty of lecturing on a chosen subject, after which it was debated by the members at the Saturday night meetings. We met in a hall on the fourth and top floor of a brick building at the corner of Union Street and Milwaukee Avenue which was owned by a well-known saloonkeeper, Gilbert Olson. When on the street, Olson always appeared in a tall silk hat, frock coat, and double-breasted fancy vest, with a cane in hand." (uthevet: GF)

 

 

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Fantastisk jobb Grethe  :D

 

Illinois, Wills and Probate Records, 1772-1999
Name: Gilbert Olson
Probate Date: 20 May 1895
Probate Place: Cook, Illinois, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1895
Inferred Death Place: Illinois, USA
Item Description: Record of Wills, Book 18-19, 1894-1895; Book 20, 1894-1895
 
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Illinois, Wills and Probate Records, 1772-1999

Name: Gilbert Olson

Probate Date: 17 Jun 1895

Probate Place: Cook, Illinois, USA

Inferred Death Year: Abt 1895

Inferred Death Place: Illinois, USA

Item Description: Executors bonds and letters, Book 13-14, 1895-1896

 

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Supert at du fant skiftepapirene, Egil!  :D

 

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJQR-3NP

 

Given Name: Nattie J.
Surname: Metcalf
Last Place of Residence:
Event Date: 16 Jul 1914
Age: 45y 7m
Nationality:
Departure Port: Kingston
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Female
Marital Status: M
Citizenship Status: X
Ship Name: Zacapa
 
Jeg skulle gjerne ha fått klarhet i det med Gilbert Olsen og Martha Olsen/Hansdatter, dvs. når og hvor de giftet seg. 
 
Hans Olsen og familien emigrerte til Amerika allerede i 1849 - se nederst høyre side - utflyttede:
 
Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Hoprekstad, Hove, Kvamsøy, Arnafjord i Vik, Ministerialbok nr. A 8 (1846-1865), Inn- og utflyttede 1849, Side 387
Permanent bilde-ID: kb20070306620424
 
 

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Jeg takker for innsatsen, dette er noe jeg har strevd med i flere år. Hadde vel en mistanke om at de emigrerte men fant hverken utreise eller innreise. Mvh. Terje Forsberg

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