Hvor i Norge var Sigurd Sørensen, født 1898? 1897?, gift i New York med Helga født Bugge?

[magnhild espeland sørlie]

HEI to Erik R. 

I do really know whom you are, by your name!   Glad for meeting you at the pc. Your grandmother Helga and my mother were cousins. I also have met Helga, when I was a young girl, and she was home visiting relatives at Sørlandet.  I also have a Picture of your mother,  when she was home in Norway. I am just trying to find out about "old relatives, and also those "over there". I just wonder from where your grandfather was, in Norway. I think we just have the date when he was born., but not where? If you can help us a little, it would have been VERY nice.   I think you have a lots of relatives in Norway, on your grandmothers side. Greetings from Magnhild

[ERIKR]

Wow. I am still shocked that I just happened across this forum by googling Sigurd and Helga Sorensen. This is awesome! It is great to hear from you. I really regret never taking a trip to Norway with Mom (Mildred) to meet family sometime before she passed in 2008. We would love to make a trip over there and meet the Cousins! I have lots of old photos from Norway of unknown people and places. I do have quite a bit of old documents from my Grandparents. My favorite are a few U.S. Customs Service Seamans Identification cards from 1917 and 1918 from Sigurd. I have a copy of his obituary that says he was born in Vestfold, Norway. I also have something handwritten by my Mom that says he was from Rivelsrud, Norway?????  He came to the U.S. in 1914 and lived on Staten Island, New York since 1925. What is the best way to contact you? email? Years ago Mom was doing pretty good staying in touch with Jon and Steiner but we have failed to stay in touch. I had always heard that my G-Grandfather (Hans Nicolai Bugge) on my Mothers side was a Sea Captain and was lost at sea. I heard a whaling ship and then later a cargo ship. I have no information on this. Do you have any details on this??

Erik

[ERIKR]

[Egil Johannessen]

Hof bygdebok. 1 1 Gårds- og slektshistorie, page 417 (visn.side 434) - http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2013121005057

 

 

I am sure Magnhild will translate for you ;-)

Endret Juli 19, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

1910 census for Hof - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036494000905

• Census year: 1910
• Municipality: Hof
• Municipality number: 0714
• Name of domicile: Myra

Number of persons in this domicile: 7

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	Name	Family status	Marital status	Occupation	Birth year	Place of birth	Ethnicity
	Søren Hans.	hf	g	gaardbr. skogarb. selveier	19.03.1871	t
	Matilde Anders.	hm	g	gaardmandsk.	12.11.1868	Hillestad Botne
	Sigurd Myra	s	ug	søn	20.04.1898	t
	Ragnvald Myra	s	ug	søn	22.09.1900	t
	Karsten Myra	s	ug	søn	04.10.1903	t
	!! Myra*	d	ug	datter	23.10.1910	t
	Anne Karine Opsal	b	e	fattigunderst.	25.11.1841	Fon Ramnæs

 

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1910&knr=0714&kenr=002&bnr=0004&lnr=00

Endret Juli 19, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

1900 census for Hof - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037138000661

• Census year: 1900
• Municipality: Hof
• Municipality number: 0714
• Name of domicile: Eid

Number of persons in this domicile: 7

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	Name	Family status	Marital status	Occupation	Birth year	Place of birth	Ethnicity
	Søren Hansen	hf	g	Jordbrug forpagter.	1871	Hof JL
	Pauline Andersen	hm	g	Huslig gjerning	1868	Hillestad JL
	Anders Sørensen	s	ug		1894	Hof JL
	Sigurd Sørensen	s	ug		1897	Hof JL
	Hjalmar Sørensen	s	ug		1900.09.22	Hof JL
	Marthin Hansen	foster s	ug		1886	Hof JL
	Karine Andersen	b	e	Fattiglem	1841	Foden JL

 

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0714&kenr=003&bnr=0015&lnr=00

[Egil Johannessen]

Søren Bernhard Hansen, b. 20. March, baptised 21. May 1871 - # 21 - Vestfold county, Hof, Vassås in Hof, Parish register (official) no. I 6 (1851-1877), Born and baptised 1871, Page 174, Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060914020150

Endret Juli 20, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

Sigurd Adolf, b. 20. April, baptised 6. June 1897 - # 15 - Vestfold county, Hof in Hof, Parish register (official) no. I 7 (1878-1940), Born and baptised 1897, Page 94, Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb10040805300099

Endret Juli 20, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

Sitat

I had always heard that my G-Grandfather (Hans Nicolai Bugge) on my Mothers side was a Sea Captain and was lost at sea. I heard a whaling ship and then later a cargo ship. I have no information on this. Do you have any details on this??

 

Hans (Nicolai) Bugge was listed as Master in the census 1900 - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037217000054

In the 1910 census he was listed as Sailor, his residential status was absent and assumed residence was America - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036595000111

 

He travelled to US a few times, links form the emigr. reg. In 1892 and 1901 he was listed as Master, the others as Sailor. Residence provided from 1904 was NY or USA. You may find corresponding passenger list's for his arrivals on FS or Ancestry. I have added information and link for the 1910 travel.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000303971

The New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name:    Hans Bugge
Arrival Date:    2 May 1910
Birth Date:    abt 1863
Birth Location:    Nrw
Birth Location Other:    svenor
Age:    47
Gender:    Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:    Scandinavian
Port of Departure:    Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:    New York, New York
Ship Name:    Carmania

Link FS - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJN9-KMG

Endret Juli 20, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

He was assumed dead since the ship "Hillesund" was never heard from after leaving Aalborg, Denmark 14. Oct 1913. 

Svinør - ryggen til Norge - blikket mot havet, page 311 - http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2016022207520

 

Endret Juli 20, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[ERIKR]

Thank you so much for this information.

 

This is what I came up with from google translate. Is there a better translation where it says "since nothing has passed from the ship or accounts"

 

Hans Bugge and Boruf Christiansen in Avig owned Elieser. It will be the last ship built by Elias Danielsen on Holmen. From 1897 Axel Hagestad came in as a new co-owner.
Bugge was the master and perished by a tragic shipwreck. He went on Oct. 14th. 1913 with his ship from Alborg in Denmark destined for Drammen. Since nothing has passed from the ship or accounts, it is assumed that the ship is undergoing. Star it in the church book. The accident was reported by the sheriff to the priest 28, Nov. 1913. He was in the process of transporting cement with "Hillesund" when the accident occurred

 

I have come across a Lindesnes newspaper article in some old papers from Monday March 31,1982. Kutteren "HILDOSUND" av Svinor. I would upload a photo/scan of the article but I am having difficulty doing so.

 

 

[Egil Johannessen]

Enclosed find two newspaper articles from Fædrelandsvennen 1913.10.31, page 2 and Fædrelandsvennen 1913.11.14, page 3. 

 

First one translates: “The cutter “Hillesund” of Svinør is missing and fears shipwrecked. The ship left Aalborg about 15-16 days ago heading for Drammen with cement. Since then no one has heard from the ship. “Hillesund” was operated by Capt Bugge, brother of local custom inspector Bugge. In addition to the Captain, there were two men on board, a son of custom inspector Bugge and a man from Larvik.”

 

Second one translates: “A few days ago we reported the cutter “Hillesund” of Svinør, operated by Capt. Bugge, transporting coal from Aalborg, feared lost since there had been no report from the ship after leaving Aalborg. Today, there’s been a month since the ship left Aalborg and still nought has been heard, thus there’s strong reason to believe the ship has sunk. As previously reported the ship had a crew of three men.”

 

Endret Juli 21, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[ERIKR]

You have no idea how much I appreciate this!!

Thank you,

Erik

[Egil Johannessen]

3 minutter siden, ERIKR skrev:

You have no idea how much I appreciate this!!

Thank you,

Erik

 

You're welcome!

[magnhild espeland sørlie]

No, I have no idea about that!!! But I am very, very glad I have found you. I hope you have got mye private-mail address.  I have sent ut to you.  I trink I can write you more tomorrow.  I do not know about other translations program. Maybe there are?, andre somebody else can help you!. Gretetings from Magnhild 

[ERIKR]

I am planning on contacting the Customs Museum in Oslo to see if they may be able to help but I figured I would post on here also. I would love to have a photo of tolltjenestemann Mathias August Bugge (f. Svinor, Sundet grn 131 'his nr 23' i 1855 - d.1918 Kr. sand) in his Customs Uniform or any other information pertaining to his career. 

 

Thank you!

[Egil Johannessen]

Not in uniform though.... - http://www.lindesnes-bygdemuseum.net/bilder.php?RollID=foto&FrameID=LIB-5953

[Egil Johannessen]

Bugge, Mathias August, født 16. aug. 1855. Skipsfører. Leiet tollrorskarl i Kristiansand, avla ed 3. nov. 1879, ansatt tollrorskarl i Flekkerø 16. mars 1884. - http://genealogi.no/kilder/Tollere/a-b.htm

 

Try contacting Arkivsenteret Sør (State Archive & Inter Municipality Archive, IKAVA) Kristiansand as well - http://www.arkivsentersor.no/om_oss/

 

Statsarkivet i Kristiansand - Epost: post@arkivverket.no / Interkommunalt arkiv i Vest-Agder IKS - Epost: ikava@ikava.no Post- og besøksadresse : Märthas vei 1, 4633 Kristiansand - Telefon sentralbord : 38 14 55 00

[ERIKR]

Egil, I really appreciate all of the great information. Thank you!