Andreas Olsen og Aase Gulbrandsdtr.'s barn

Februar 27, 2018

Hei. Fra USA har jeg fått spørsmål om slekt fra Aadalen (Ådal) i Buskerud.

Folketelling 1865 Aadalen:

Andreas Olsen 41 år født Aadalen

Gunnild Gulbrandsdtr. 39 år født Ringerike

Gunnild, datter, 12 år

Gulbrand, sønn, 10 år

Olava, datter, 7 år

Jens M., sønn, 4 år.

Jeg har oversikt over Gulbrand som ble gift og bosatt på Bjonskogen i Vestre Brandbu. Han og kona Elina Eriksdtr. hadde mange barn som utvandret.

Kan noen finne ut hvordan det gikk med Gulbrands søstre, Gunnild og Olava? Jeg søker og klikker på det "nye" Digitalarkivet, men finner ikke fram. Vet det er meg det er noe galt med!

Mvh. Ole.

Februar 27, 2018

Olava i 1910 (1 år feil på f.år)

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036463002665

Februar 27, 2018

Gunnhild Marie gift i 1883

SAKO, Ådal kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. I 1, 1857-1883, s. 513
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061102350526

1900

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037110003097

1910

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036462002890

Endret Februar 27, 2018 av Carsten Schanche

Februar 27, 2018

Edvard i 1910

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036462003210

Februar 27, 2018

Hei Carsten. Takk for svarene. De viste at det ikke var etterkommere av disse det ble søkt etter. Etterkommer i USA av Andrew T. Hagen, f. 9.1.1877 i Norge, gift ca. 1900 i MN med Randine (Dina) Hagen, f. 25.9.1883 i Polk Co., MN. trodde at Andrew hadde noe å gjøre med Gulbrand Andreassen, f. 2.2.1856 i Viker i Aadalen. Gudbrand og kona Elina fikk flere barn i Sollihagen på Bjonskogen, og disse kalte seg Hagen i Amerika. Da Andrew og Randine giftet seg var en av vitnene en Ole Hagen, som skulle være Andrews søskenbarn, men jeg tvilte over forbindelsen til Gran,, den Ole Hagen jeg har som var Gulbrand og Elinas sønn var født i 1890, og utvandret i 1911. Spørsmålet er: hvem var denne Andrew T. Hagen som på Draft seddelen oppgis være født 9.1.877. I 1910 tellingen sies det at han utv. i 1893.

Heller ikke Randines foreldre har etterkommerne oversikt over. I 1900 tellinga for Polk Co., MN er foreldrene Paul L. Hagen, f. juni 1849 i Norge, utv. 1874 og Ingrid P. Hagen f. sept. 1849 i Norge, utv. 1877.

Andrew døde 25.7.1947, Randine (Dina) døde 22.4.1954, begge i Thief River Falls, MN. Mvh. Ole.

Februar 27, 2018

Du skriver:

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Spørsmålet er: hvem var denne Andrew T. Hagen som på Draft seddelen oppgis være født 9.1.877. I 1910 tellingen sies det at han utv. i 1893.

Heller ikke Randines foreldre har etterkommerne oversikt over. I 1900 tellinga for Polk Co., MN er foreldrene Paul L. Hagen, f. juni 1849 i Norge, utv. 1874 og Ingrid P. Hagen f. sept. 1849 i Norge, utv. 1877.

Andrew døde 25.7.1947, Randine (Dina) døde 22.4.1954, begge i Thief River Falls, MN. Mvh. Ole."

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Andrew Hagen

Minnesota State Census, 1905

Name	Andrew Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1905
Event Place	Thief River Falls, Ward Number: 01, Red Lake, Minnesota
Gender	Male
Age	28
Race	White
Birthplace	Norway
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPQS-S4T

Andrew og Randine og 4 barn.

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Randine Hagen

Minnesota State Census, 1905

Name	Randine Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1905
Event Place	Thief River Falls, Ward Number: 01, Red Lake, Minnesota
Gender	Female
Age	21
Race	White
Birthplace	Minnesota
Birth Year (Estimated)	1884
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Minnesota

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Andrew Hagen

United States Census, 1910

Name	Andrew Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 3, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	33
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1893
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	10

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew Hagen	Head	M	33	Norway
Dina Hagen	Wife	F	26	Minnesota
Theodor Hagen	Son	M	8	Minnesota
Adolph Hagen	Son	M	8	Minnesota
Pauline Hagen	Daughter	F	6	Minnesota
Albert Hagen	Son	M	5	Minnesota
Herman Hagen	Son	M	3	Minnesota
Emma Hagen	Daughter	F	1	Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2GG-NKM

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Andrew T Hagen

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards

Name	Andrew T Hagen
Event Type	Draft Registration
Event Date	1917-1918
Event Place	Pennington County, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Nationality	United States
Birth Date	09 Jan 1877
Birthplace	, ,

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Andrew T Hagen

United States Census, 1920

Name	Andrew T Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 4, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	43
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Can Read	Yes
Can Write	Yes
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Own or Rent	Rent
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1891
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	9

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew T Hagen	Head	M	43	Norway
Denia A Hagen	Wife	F	37	Minnesota
Theador M Hagen	Son	M	18	Minnesota
Adalph E Hagen	Son	M	18	Minnesota
Lena E Hagen	Daughter	F	16	Minnesota
Albert R Hagen	Son	M	14	Minnesota
Hermon A Hagen	Son	M	13	Minnesota
Emma L Hagen	Daughter	F	11	Minnesota
Mable Q Hagen	Daughter	F	8	Minnesota
Clarence J Hagen	Son	M	5	Minnesota
Alma G Hagen	Daughter	F	2	Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWB2-C3N

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Andrew Hogen

United States Census, 1930

Name	Andrew Hogen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1930
Event Place	Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	53
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1892
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	12

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew Hogen	Head	M	53	Norway
Dena Hogen	Wife	F	45	Minnesota
Clarence J Hogen	Son	M	15	Minnesota
Alma L Hogen	Daughter	F	12	Minnesota
Robert A Hogen	Son	M	9	Minnesota
Chester L Hogen	Son	M	7	Minnesota
Theodore M Hogen	Son	M	28	Minnesota
Herman G Hogen	Son	M	23	Minnesota

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Andrew Hagen

United States Census, 1940

Name	Andrew Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1940
Event Place	Ward 3, Thief River Falls, Thief River Falls City, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Sex	Male
Age	63
Marital Status	Married
Race (Original)	White
Race	White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Birthplace	Norway
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Last Place of Residence	Same Place

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew Hagen	Head	M	63	Norway
Dina Hagen	Wife	F	56	Minnesota
Ted Hagen	Son	M	38	Minnesota
Herman Hagen	Son	M	33	Minnesota
Agnes Hagen	Wife	F	28	Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSK3-6NL

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Andrew Hagen

Minnesota Death Index

Typed or Handwritten	T
Name	Andrew Hagen
Event Type	Death
Event Date	25 Jul 1947
Event Place	Pennington, Minnesota
Record Number	1042775
Certificate Number	012521
Certificate Year	1947
File Name	012521
Affiliate Batch Identifier	NF356DO

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4CV-49D

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Faren het Thom Hagen.

Andrew Hagen

Minnesota Deaths and Burials

Name	Andrew Hagen
Gender	Male
Death Date	25 Jul 1947
Death Place	Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota
Age	70
Birth Date	1877
Marital Status	Married
Spouse's Name	Dina Hagen
Father's Name	Thom Hagen

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD6G-YBW

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Andrew Hagen

Birth: Jan. 9, 1877Death: Jul. 25, 1947

Family links:
Spouse:
Dina Hagen (1883 - 1954)

Children:
Adolph N Hagen (1901 - 1975)*

*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Greenwood Cemetery
Thief River Falls
Pennington County
Minnesota, USA
Plot: Blk:I Lot:5 Grave:3
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]
Created by: kevers
Record added: Oct 31, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 43764666

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hagen&GSfn=andrew&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1947&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=43764666&df=all&

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Heller ikke Randines foreldre har etterkommerne oversikt over. I 1900 tellinga for Polk Co., MN er foreldrene Paul L. Hagen, f. juni 1849 i Norge, utv. 1874 og Ingrid P. Hagen f. sept. 1849 i Norge, utv. 1877.

Andrew døde 25.7.1947, Randine (Dina) døde 22.4.1954, begge i Thief River Falls, MN. Mvh. Ole."

Paul L Hagen

Minnesota State Census, 1895

Name	Paul L Hagen
Event Place	Garden township, Polk, Minnesota
Age (Original)	45y
Birth Year (Estimated)	1850
Birthplace	Norway
Race (Original)	W
Gender	Male

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Paul L Hagen		M	45y	Norway
Ingri Hagen		F	44y	Norway
Maria P Hagen		F	14y	Minnesota
Lorance P Hagen		M	12y	Minnesota
Rangdine P Hagen		F	11y	Minnesota
Nels P Hagen		M	8y	Minnesota
John P Hagen		M	7y	Minnesota
Ida P Hagen		F	5y	Minnesota

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Randine Hagen

United States Census, 1900

Name:	Randine Hagen
Event Type:	Census
Event Year:	1900
Event Place:	Garden Township, Polk, Minnesota, United States
Gender:	Female
Age:	17
Marital Status:	Single
Race:	White
Race (Original):	W
Relationship to Head of Household:	Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):	Daughter
Birth Date:	Sep 1883
Birthplace:	Minnesota
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Paul L Hagen

Head

Male

51

Norway

Ingrid Hagen

Wife

Female

51

Norway

Lorens Hagen

Son

Male

19

Minnesota

Randine Hagen

Daughter

Female

17

Minnesota

Nils Hagen

Son

Male

15

Minnesota

John Hagen

Son

Male

13

Minnesota

Ida P Hagen

Daughter

Female

10

Minnesota

Marie Paulson

Nephew

Female

13

Minnesota

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Paul L Hagen

mentioned in the record of Ida P Hagen

Name	Paul L Hagen
gender	Male
Wife	Ingrid Nelson
Daughter	Ida P Hagen

Other information in the record of Ida P Hagen

from Minnesota Deaths and Burials

Name	Ida P Hagen
Gender	Female
Death Date	22 Dec 1901
Death Place	Minnesota
Age	11
Birth Date	1890
Father's Name	Paul L Hagen
Mother's Name	Ingrid Nelson

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Paul Larson

mentioned in the record of Paul Larson and Ingeri Nelson

Name	Paul Larson
Event Type	Marriage
Event Date	21 Jul 1877
Event Place	Olmsted, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Spouse's Name	Ingeri Nelson
Spouse's Gender	Female
Page	467

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Paul S Hagen

Minnesota State Census, 1905

Name	Paul S Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1905
Event Place	Thief River Falls, Ward Number: 01, Red Lake, Minnesota
Gender	Male
Age	56
Race	White
Birthplace	Norway
Birth Year (Estimated)	1849
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPQS-SHK

Paul Hagen 56 ,og kona Engri Hagen 57, i Census 1905.

Under navnet til Ingri står:

Ole Hagen 32,Maria Hagen 25,Mable Hagen 4,Ida Hagen 2,Melvin Hagen 6-12,Nels Hagen 19og John Hagen 17 .

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Paul L Hagen

United States Census, 1910

Name	Paul L Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	61
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1849
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1874
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	2

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Paul L Hagen	Head	M	61	Norway
Ingrie Hagen	Wife	F	61	Norway
Nels Hagen	Son	M	24	Minnesota
John Hagen	Son	M	22	Minnesota

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Er det en søster av Paul som bor hos dem i 1920?

Paul L Hagen

United States Census, 1920

Name	Paul L Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	70
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Can Read	Yes
Can Write	Yes
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Own or Rent	Own
Birth Year (Estimated)	1850
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1880
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	12

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Paul L Hagen	Head	M	70	Norway
Engre P Hagen	Wife	F	70	Norway
Nels P Hagen	Son	M	34	Minnesota
John P Hagen	Son	M	32	Minnesota
Mary Hagen	Servant	F	75	Norway

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Du skriver:

" Da Andrew og Randine giftet seg var en av vitnene en Ole Hagen, som skulle være Andrews søskenbarn,"

Angående Ole Hagen som jeg fant på samme liste som Paul Hagen og Ingri Hagen i Census 1905 er vel denne:

Ser at Marit Hagen ,67 år bor der.

Står som "Mother.

Er Mary Hagen som bor hos Paul Hagen i 1920 den samme som Marit Hagen,Ole O. Hagen sin mor?

Mary Hagen i 1920 var 72 år,og Marit Hagen i 1910 var 67 år,så alder stemmer ikke helt.

Det var kanskje samme Ole Hagen som var forlover da Andrew og Randine giftet seg?

Ole Hagen

United States Census, 1910

Name	Ole Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	37
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1873
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1888
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	2

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole Hagen	Head	M	37	Norway
Maria Hagen	Wife	F	30	Minnesota
Mabel O Hagen	Daughter	F	9	Minnesota
Ida C Hayen	Daughter	F	7	Minnesota
Melvin O Hagen	Son	M	5	Minnesota
Lillie R Hagen	Daughter	F	1	Minnesota
Marit Hagen	Mother	F	67	Norway

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Ole O Hagen

United States Census, 1920

Name	Ole O Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	47
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Can Read	Yes
Can Write	Yes
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Own or Rent	Rent
Birth Year (Estimated)	1873
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1888
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	13

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole O Hagen	Head	M	47	Norway
Mary Hagen	Wife	F	40	Minnesota
Mabel O Hagen	Daughter	F	19	Minnesota
Ida P Hagen	Daughter	F	17	Minnesota
Melvin O Hagen	Son	M	15	Minnesota
Lillie R Hagen	Daughter	F	11	Minnesota
Norman M Hagen	Son	M	9	Minnesota
Clifred Hagen	Son	M	6	Minnesota
Edwin Hagen	Son	M	2	Minnesota

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Ole O Hagen

United States Census, 1930

Name	Ole O Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1930
Event Place	Minneapolis (Districts 1-250), Hennepin, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	57
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1873
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1890
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	7

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole O Hagen	Head	M	57	Norway
Mary Hagen	Wife	F	50	Minnesota
Melvin Hagen	Son	M	25	Minnesota
Norman Hagen	Son	M	18	Minnesota
Clifford Hagen	Son	M	16	Minnesota
Edwin Hagen	Son	M	12	Minnesota
Lillian Hagen	Daughter	F	4	Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3Z5-GLS

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Ole O Hagen

United States Census, 1940

Name	Ole O Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1940
Event Place	Ward 11, Minneapolis, Minneapolis City, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States
Sex	Male
Age	66
Marital Status	Married
Race (Original)	White
Race	White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Birthplace	Norway
Birth Year (Estimated)	1874
Last Place of Residence	Same House

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole O Hagen	Head	M	66	Norway
Mary Hagen	Wife	F	60	Minnesota
Melvin O Hagen	Son	M	34	Minnesota
Clifford Hagen	Son	M	25	Minnesota
Edwin Hagen	Son	M	22	Minnesota
Lillian R Hagen	Daughter	F	14	Minnesota

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Endret Februar 28, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

Februar 28, 2018

Hei Ole

Jeg har mange etterkommere etter Andreas Olsen Tømmerviken og Åse Mathea Gulbrandsdatter.

Jeg vedlegger en pdf201802281431.pdf i fra min database for 3 generasjoner etter disse, regner med at det er dette du vil ha.

Det er ikke sjekket 100% mot originalkilder, så jeg anbefaler å gjøre det.

Mvh Bjørn

Februar 28, 2018

Har redigert (lagt inn mere) i # 6.

Februar 28, 2018

Hei Ann-Mary og Bjørn. Først til Bjørn: Jeg tror ikke at noen i familien til Andreas Olsen og Åse Mathea Gulbrandsdtr. er de jeg søker etter. Det var fordi det fra USA kom opplysninger om at kanskje det var Ole Hagen, f. 1890 på skjema 1319 var den Ole Hagen som var forlover da Andrew T. Hagen og Randine (Dina) giftet seg. Bakgrunnen var vel også at etterkommere etter disse i USA har sett et notat i gamle slektsopplysninger der det var skrevet Jaren, Gran, Norge. Jeg kan foreløpig ikke se at noen av de som er nevnt fra USA kan være fra Hadeland.

Jeg limer inn familieskjema 1319, det er flere opplysninger der som kanskje du har interesse av. Som du ser så er det de som emigrerte jeg konsentrerer meg om.

Ann-May: Jeg skal se over alt du har lagt inn, imponerende! Tusen takk.

Her er skjema 1319:

Skjema nr/Form No: 1319

Registreringsskjema for Emigranter til Amerika og Canada fra Hadeland

Hadeland Immigrant Identification Form

Emigrantenes navn, fødested og fødselsdato/Name, place and date of birth of the emigrants:

Iver Gudbrandsen (Iver Hagen), f. 19.04.1888 i Stormyren på Bjoneskogen, V. Brandbu.

Hvor reiste de fra/From where did they leave:

Sollihagen på Bjoneskogen, V. Brandbu, Hadeland.

Når utvandret de/When did they emigrate:

22.6.1906 med ”Montebello.” Reiste med ”Majestic” fra Liverpool, ankom Ellis Island 4.7.1906.

Steder de bosatte seg/Where did they settle:

Fosston, Polk Co. MN.

Hva livnærte de seg av/Occupation of the immigrants:

Farm arbeider.

Andre opplysninger/Additional information:

Iver gift 10.2.1913 i Fosston med Emma Amalie Berg, f. 01.10.1893 i …………………

Barn: Evelyn Irene B. (Mrs. William Joseph Glasser) (1914-1969); Lillian Amanda (Mrs. Lloyd E. Rue) (1915-?); Jewell Gladys (Mrs. Ed Ridgedale) (1920-2009); Margaret Louise (Berg) (Mrs. Ray Strunk) (1922-1985); Marion Lorrain, (1922-1924).

Emma døde 6.11.1923 i Polk Co., og Iver gift 2. gang 28.7.1926 i Crookstone, Polk Co. med Hilda Noretta Oftelie, f. 09.05.1902 i Gully Twp., Polk Co., MN.

Barn: George Emil, (1927-1927); Orville Hardin, (1927-1927); Glenn Orville, (1928-?); Alvin Harvey, (1931-?); Marcella, (1933-1936).

Ivers foreldre: Gudbrand Andreassen, f. 02.02.1856 i Viker i Aadal, Buskerud, d. 1917 og Eline Iversdtr., f. 28.10.1863 på Gutudalseiet i V. Brandbu, død 1936, gift 9.2.1884 i Brandbu.

Iver døde 3.10.1947, Hilda døde 8.10.1978, begge i Polk Co., MN.

Andre familiemedlemmer som har emigrert/other family members who emigrated:

Iver’s søsken:

1. Iver, f. 18.10.1883 på Bjoneskogen, d. 8.6.1886.

2. Andreas, f. 09.01.1886 i Stormyren, utv. 31.3.1905 med ”Angelo” til WI.

Gift med Alma Sophie Berg, f. 27.10.1890 i MN.

Barn: Ethel, (1913-?); John, (?-?); Russel Norman, (1925-1945).

Andreas døde 5.9.1949 i Fosston, MN, Alma døde 16.4.1992 i …………………………

3. Ole (Hagen), f. 23.11.1890 i Sollihagen, utv. 3.11.1911 med ”Oscar II” til WI.

Ole var ikke gift, død 28.3.1978 i Fosston, Polk Co. MN.

4. Anne Marie, f. 02.11.1893 i Sollihagen, d. 9.12.1895.

5. Gudbrand, f. 13.05.1896 i Sollihagen, gift og død 26.12.1964 i Norge.

6. Martin, f. 01.07.1898 i Sollihagen, gift …….. med Gina Emilie Haugen, f. 29.10.1901 i Minnesota, USA. Hennes foreldre var fra Haugen i Bjoneroa.

De utv. 15.6.1926 med ”Bergensfjord” til Canada sammen med barna: Henry, f. 23.05.1923 og Edel, f. 23.02.1926. Barn:

a) Henry, se over, gift ? barn ? død ……….. i ……………………………………………….

b) Edel, se over, gift ? barn ? død ………… i ………………………………………………..

Martin og Gina fikk 2 barn til i Canada.

Gina’s foreldre: ……………………………………………………………………………………

Martin døde 22.9.1932, Gina døde 14.8.1986, begge i………………., Canada.

7. Anna, f. 11.11.1900 i Sollihagen, gift og død 20.4.1985 i Norge

8. Emil, f. 07.02.1903 i Sollihagen, gift og død 22.2.1984 i Norge.

9. Lina, f. 05.05.1906 i Sollihagen, gift og død 1.7.1985 i Norge.

Opplysningene er fra/Sources of information:

Lisa Hagen, ……………………….., MN, e-mail: hagenlis@gmail.com

Kirkebøker for Gran/Brandbu. Sverre Sollihagen, Hundalen, Gjøvik.

Mars 1, 2018

Hei Ole.

Jeg kan med rimelig grad av sikkerhet si at Ole Hagen ikke er søskenbarn av Andrew T. Hagen, på med mindre "T" er ett blindspor.

Ole (Gulbrandsen) Hagen er sønn av Gulbrand Andersen fra Tømmervika i Ådalen, og Elina IVERSDATTER (ikke Eriksdatter) fra Avtjerna/Galgefurua på Bjonskogen: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060425060150

Gulbrands søstre som teoretisk kan ha en sønn født 1877 er ikke gift med noen som har fornavn på T.

Elina har to søstre registrert ved tellingen på Avtjerna i 1865 er Birte f ca. 1859, hun er vel muligens gift med en Peder, og Malin eller Maline f. ca. 1861, henne finner jeg ikke som gift.

Da er det mulighet for at Ole Hagen i så fall er søskenbarn til Randine fra far Paul L. eller mor Ingerid P.

Er det noen mulighet for å finne ut hva T, L, og P er for noen navn?

Jeg har en viss egeninteresse av å finne litt ut av dette :-). Elinas morfar er født på det stedet jeg nå bor, og jeg er i slekt med han. Gulbrands slekt er det nære slektninger av min kone, noen også utvandret.

Mvh Bjørn

Mars 1, 2018

Mora til Randine het Paul Larsen og Ingri Nelson.

Det står de som ved vielsen i 1877,og også ved datteren Ida sin død i 1901.

Paul brukte navnet Paul L. Hagen.

Ser at Ingri står som Ingri P Hagen i Census 1920.Det er vel kun i Census 1920 at Ingri står med P i navnet.

Barna står også med P i navnet i Census 1920.(Betyr kanskje Paulsen,etter faren?

Tror forloveren til Andrew T. Hagen er den Ole Hagen som står som født i 1873 i Census 1910.

Se innlegg 6.

Ved Andrew Hagen sin død i 1947 står faren som Thom Hagen.

Endret Mars 1, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

Mars 1, 2018

Hei

Enig med deg Ann-Mary, tror heller ikke at Ole Hagen født på Bjonskogen er den vi er ute etter.

Mars 1, 2018

Angående Mary Hagen,72 år, som bodde hos Paul Hagen i 1920.

Immigrasjonsår er ikke oppgitt i Census 1920.

Angående Marit Hagen,67år, som bor hos sønnen Ole O Hagen og som står som mother i Census 1910;

Marit Hagen og Ole Hagen står begge med immigrasjonsår 1888 i Census 1910.

Mars 2, 2018

Tusen takk til dere som har brukt tid på dette. Jeg har prøvd å få klarhet siden Gran, Oppland har vært nevn i forbindelse med personene. På Ancestry.com ligger det mange familietrær, mye informasjon er feil, men ingen har funnet ut hvor personene kom fra i Norge. Jeg har trålet utvandrerlistene for oppgitte år for emigrasjon i folketellingene, og muligens funnet Vågå som bosted for en av disse. Jeg fikk i dag denne mailen fra hun som sendte spørsmål om hjelp, se under. Her er det også litt historieundervisning. Hilsen Ole.

I am so sorry that I had to waste your time looking at the Aadal, Buskerud connection. That family was related to the incorrect Ole Hagen we were first searching for.

Did I give you the following information on the correct(!) Ole O. Hagen from Kari Torkelson after she did some more digging into her mother's papers? The same Ole O. Hagen that you found.

Kari says, "Andrew T. Hagen's first cousin is Ole O. Hagen. Ole Hagen was born in Gulbransdalen, Norway. Ole married his first cousin, Mary. Andrew married Mary's sister, Dina."

I believe that Mary is Maria. I found in the 1885 territorial census for Polk County that Paul L Hagen and his wife Ingri have Maria age 6 and Lorence (Lorens) age 4. So I'm guessing that Maria was born about 1879. Randine was the third child and was born September 1883.

So we have cousins -- Andrew and Ole -- marrying sisters, Maria (or Mary) and Dina. And Ole and his wife Mary are also cousins.

In the 1910 census, Ole O. Hagen and Maria are living in Thief River Falls. They have been married 10 years and Ole's mother lives with them. Her name is Marit Hagen, widowed, age 62 or 67, and number of children born to her is 1. (Maybe she had only one child, maybe not.)

To help you understand how so many people moved from Polk County to Thief River Falls:
In the Old Crossing Treaty of 1863, the Indian natives ceded nearly 11 million acres to the U.S. Government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Old_Crossing). If you look at the map on this website, you will see Grand Forks and Crookston, but no Thief River Falls. One of the counties that emerged from these ceded lands was Polk County, which included the town of Crookston (its county seat of government), and Norwegians immigrating after this 1863 treaty settled in droves in Polk County.

By 1881, a village about 20 miles east northeast from Crookston emerged: Red Lake Falls. Red Lake Falls was the site of a North West Company fur post as early as 1796 or 1797 (French Canadian) making it one of the oldest sites of European occupation in Minnesota, but it had become abandoned after the fur trade ended. Red Lake Falls was in Polk County until 1896, when residents felt that they should have their own county with Red Lake Falls being the seat of government. Red Lake County was established from about half of the eastern side of Polk County.

Around 1880, lumber was beginning to be taken from the area around Red Lake (not to be confused with the county or the city). Upper and Lower Red Lakes are in the upper middle part of Minnesota and the outlet is the Red Lake River. These wonderful white pine trees floated, so the loggers would cut trees down all winter and pile them on the frozen lake. When the lake and river thawed in the spring, they would "drive" the logs all the way to Crookston. Immigrants soon realized, however, that there was a small waterfall (very small in comparison to Norway's) further upstream and the village of St. Hilaire was started along with a sawmill there. This village was north of Red Lake Falls. Then some investors decided that the larger falls at Thief River Falls would be a better place to have a sawmill and that town was incorporated in 1896. When all three sawmills were still operating, logs were marked for Crookston, St. Hilaire and Thief RIver Falls. As they passed first through Thief River Falls, only those bearing the Thief River Falls marking were retained; the rest were sent downstream. At St. Hilaire, they were again sorted.

By 1905, Thief River Falls had become the major sawmill site and the city's population had increased dramatically. This made the city administrators think that Thief River Falls should now be the county seat of government for Red Lake County. Of course, the folks in Red Lake Falls did not want to lose that distinction -- and a battle ensured that lasted for a decade. Mysteriously, even the old courthouse at Red Lake Falls burned to the ground one night and a new beautiful courthouse was built which Red Lake Falls hoped would guarantee that their city would remain the county seat.

In 1911, Red Lake County split and Pennington County became the name of the northern half of the county with Thief River Falls as its county seat. That Red Lake Falls courthouse that was built? It was paid for through bonds that all county residents had to pay. Since Pennington County was part of Red Lake County at the time, the residents of Pennington County had to continue paying for that courthouse until the bonds were satisfied. This is why Thief River Falls did not get a new courthouse built until in the 1950s.

Because of the huge success of the sawmill in Thief River Falls, there were also two railroad lines constructed to move the lumber and immigrants who weren't having success with farming or who chose to have a different occupation moved to Thief River Falls. In one of the Thief River Falls city directories (I'm not sure of the exact year), we have two of our Hagens working for the TRF Lumber Co: Andrew T and Ole. Paul L Hagen ended up working for the railroad, as did Andrew and Randine's sons Adolph and Theodor.

This is probably way more than you wanted to know, but we genealogists/historians are interested in the stories.

Beste hilsen,
Faye

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 1:52 AM, Ole Gamme <olegam@online.no> wrote:

Hello Faye.

I placed a question at Digitalarkivet. You can see the debate here:

https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/219722-andreas-olsen-og-aase-gulbrandsdtrs-barn/

I think the Ole O. Hagen who was the sponsor (forlover) when Andrew and Dina got married is the Ole in 1900 Census for Polk Co., MN, born may 1872 just married to a Mary, born oct 1871, both born in Norway. Also Ole’s mother, Mary F. (or I) born May 1834, widow lives with them.

All of them shall have emigrated in 1888. In another notice I found that Mary F had been married to a Peter E. Hagen, born 1831 in Norway.

In 1910, Ole O. Hagen lives in Thief River Falls, MN with wife Maria, 30 years old, born in MN. Was this Maria Ole’s second wife?

Well, this is not easy, many Ole Hagens come up at Ancestry.com.

I can still not see that any of these people came from Hadeland.

Ole P. Gamme.

Mars 2, 2018

Ole O Hagen

United States Census, 1900

Name	Ole O Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Year	1900
Event Place	Liberty & Reis Townships, Polk, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	28
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	W
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Years Married	0
Birth Date	May 1872
Birthplace	Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated)	1900
Immigration Year	1888
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole O Hagen	Head	M	28	Norway
Mary Hagen	Wife	F	29	Norway
Mary F Hagen	Mother	F	66	Norway
Knute Kapadal	Servant	M	28	Norway
Mary Olson	Servant	F	21	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93Z-FNP

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Hvis dette er samme familie som i Census 1900 er det noe som ikke stemmer med alderen til Ole Hagen sin mor.

Eller er Mary F Hagen og Marit Hagen 2 forskjellige personer?

Hun var 66 år i 1900,og 67 år i 1910!!

Ole Hagen

United States Census, 1910

Name	Ole Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	37
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1873
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1888
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	2

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Ole Hagen	Head	M	37	Norway
Maria Hagen	Wife	F	30	Minnesota
Mabel O Hagen	Daughter	F	9	Minnesota
Ida C Hayen	Daughter	F	7	Minnesota
Melvin O Hagen	Son	M	5	Minnesota
Lillie R Hagen	Daughter	F	1	Minnesota
Marit Hagen	Mother	F	67	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2GG-6JT

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Og hvem er Mary Hagen,72 år,som bor hos Paul Hagen i 1920?

Kan det være søster av Paul?

Paul L Hagen

United States Census, 1920

Name	Paul L Hagen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Thief River Falls Ward 1, Pennington, Minnesota, United States
Gender	Male
Age	70
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Can Read	Yes
Can Write	Yes
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Own or Rent	Own
Birth Year (Estimated)	1850
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1880
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	12

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Paul L Hagen	Head	M	70	Norway
Engre P Hagen	Wife	F	70	Norway
Nels P Hagen	Son	M	34	Minnesota
John P Hagen	Son	M	32	Minnesota
Mary Hagen	Servant	F	75	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWB2-ZW8

View the original document.

Endret Mars 2, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

Mars 5, 2018

Anders f. 9-1-1877 Heidal i Vågå, far er Thor Pedersen Præstegaardshagen

SAH, Vågå prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 7 /2, 1873-1886, s. 180
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070115630360

Konf. i Sør-Fron i 1891

SAH, Sør-Fron prestekontor, H/Ha/Hab/L0003: Klokkerbok nr. 3, 1884-1896, s. 277-278
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070130650696

Emigrerer i 1892

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001038401

Mars 5, 2018

Angående # 16.

Ser at disse reiste samme dag:

	Hamn	Nr.	År	Mnd.	Dag	Førenamn	Etternamn	Kjønn	Stand	Yrke	Alder	Bustad	Reisemål	Merknad	Utlending	Frakt
Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 gammel

88495

Oslo

0865

1892

Mai

20

Peder O.

Walden

m

Arb.

19

S.fran

La Crasse

867

Norge

Spd.

88496

Oslo

0866

1892

Mai

20

Guri

Walden

f

Pige

16

S.fran

La Crasse

868

Norge

Spd.

88497

Oslo

0867

1892

Mai

20

Anne

Olsen

f

E

60

S.fran

La Crasse

869

Norge

Spd.

88498

Oslo

0868

1892

Mai

20

Anders

Thorsen

m

Arb.

15

S.fran

La Crasse

870

Norge

Spd

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