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Jan Søstuen

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Oline Pedersdatter født på Stenset i Hernes, Elverum den 25. mai 1834 og døpt i Elverum kirke den 13. juli 1834.

Nummer 68 her.

 

Hun gifter seg den 23. april 1858 i Elverum med Halvor Torstensen Sjøli fra Våler i Solør.

Nummer 22 her.

Halvor er oppført å være 32 år gammel, altså født rundt 1826. Videre står det at han er fra Våler.

 

Finner forøvrig en Halvor Thorstensen i Hof i FT1865, han er oppført å være født i Hof prestegjeld, som Våler på den tiden var underlagt. Her er han forøvrig med "en annen" kone.

 

Kan dette være den samme Halvor som har blitt enkemann mellom 1858 og 1865 og giftet seg på nytt. Og hva har skjedd med Oline?

 

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13 minutter siden, Jan Søstuen skrev:

Oline Pedersdatter født på Stenset i Hernes, Elverum den 25. mai 1834 og døpt i Elverum kirke den 13. juli 1834.

Nummer 68 her.

 

Hun gifter seg den 23. april 1858 i Elverum med Halvor Torstensen Sjøli fra Våler i Solør.

Nummer 22 her.

Halvor er oppført å være 32 år gammel, altså født rundt 1826. Videre står det at han er fra Våler.

 

Finner forøvrig en Halvor Thorstensen i Hof i FT1865, han er oppført å være født i Hof prestegjeld, som Våler på den tiden var underlagt. Her er han forøvrig med "en annen" kone.

 

Kan dette være den samme Halvor som har blitt enkemann mellom 1858 og 1865 og giftet seg på nytt. Og hva har skjedd med Oline?

 

 

Ser at de fikk et barn før de giftet seg:

Elisine Beate Halvorsen

Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth:
25 February 1856
 
christening:
24 March 1856
, ELVERUM, HEDMARK, NORWAY
residence:
1856
Elverum, Hedmark, Norway
father:
Halvor Tostensen
mother:
Oline Pedersdr

 

Ministerialboken

Nr 55

Hedmark fylke, Elverum i Elverum, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1843-1856), Fødte og døpte 1856, Side 91
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070126310575
 

Klokkerboken

Nr 55

Hedmark fylke, Elverum i Elverum, Klokkerbok nr. 3 (1856-1865), Fødte og døpte 1856, Side 3
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603310096
 

 

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Takk Ann-Mary og Grethe. Jeg lurer på om det her handler om to ulike Halvor Torstensen. Det virker litt merkelig at Halvor gifter seg med Oline i 1859, etter å ha fått barn med henne i 1856. For deretter å gifte seg med Hanna Olsdatter i 1860. Men på den annen side stemmer jo alt med vielsen, patronymikon og farens patronymikon for begge Halvorer.

 

Jeg har forsøkt å lete etter Oline blant døde i Elverum perioden 1859 - 1860, uten hell. Kan hun allerede ha flyttet ut av Elverum? Finner heller ingen Elisine, hverken i FT1865, 1900 eller 1910 født i Elverum.

 

kan hele familien ha utvandret?

 

For en nøtt! 😕

 

 

 

 

 

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OK, da er det altså to ulike Halvor Torstensen jeg har rotet meg borti. Ser jo at den enes far heter Torsten Hansen og "min" Halvors far heter Torsten Halvorsen. Takk for referanse til skifekortene Grethe.

 

Etterkommerne til Peder Olsen og Berthe Olsdatter har jeg relativt god oversikt over, bortsett fra to av barn nemlig denne Oline Pedersdatter og søsteren Berte Pedersdatter.

 

Jeg finner hverken Halvor, Oline eller Elisine ved søk på DA etter 1865. Vet dere hvor jeg kan søke på evt. emigrasjon før dette?

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Ella B Shirley

United States Census, 1900
Name Ella B Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Northfield Township Northfield city Ward 3, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 44
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Daughter
Birth Date Feb 1856
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1861
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Olene Shirley Head F 66 Norway
Ella B Shirley Daughter F 44 Norway
Ole F Shirley Grandson M 8 Minnesota
Henry Gunner Nephew M 46 At Sea

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93G-WDL

 

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Ella Oleson

United States Census, 1870
Name: Ella Oleson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1870
Event Place: Minnesota, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1855-1856
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Page Number: 32
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
 
Male
35
Norway
 
Female
38
Norway
Ella Oleson
 
Female
14
Wisconsin
 
Male
12
Wisconsin
 
Female
7
Wisconsin
 
Male
1
Minnesota
 
Female
38
Norway

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDHZ-QZJ

 

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E C B Shirley

Minnesota State Census, 1875
Name E C B Shirley
Event Place Northfield City, Rice, Minnesota
Age 19
Birth Year (Estimated) 1856
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Birthplace Norway
Race White
Gender Female
GS Film number 0565727
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Olena Shirley   F   Norway
E C B Shirley   F   Norway
Ole Shirley   M   Minnesota
Paulina Shirley   F   Minnesota
Henry James   M   Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNR-QTX

 

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Ellen Shurley

United States Census, 1880
Name Ellen Shurley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1880
Event Place Northfield, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 21
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Dau
Birth Year (Estimated) 1859
Birthplace Norway
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 276
Person Number 1
Volume 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Olena Shurley Self F 43 Norway
Ellen Shurley Daughter F 21 Norway
Ole Shurley Sister F 17 Minnesota, United States
Paulena Shurley Daughter F 16 Minnesota, United States
Henry Gunner Other M 24 Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9L-PTT

 

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Ella Gunner

Minnesota State Census, 1895
Name: Ella Gunner
Event Place: Northfield city, Ward 03, Rice, Minnesota
Age (Original): 38y
Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Birthplace: Minnesota
Race (Original): W
Gender: Female
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
 
Female
61y
Norway
 
Male
40y
Norway
Ella Gunner
 
Female
38y
Minnesota

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ6G-JHD

 

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Ella B Shirley

United States Census, 1900
Name: Ella B Shirley
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Northfield Township Northfield city Ward 3, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 44
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter
Birth Date: Feb 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1861
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Head
Female
66
Norway
Ella B Shirley
Daughter
Female
44
Norway
Grandson
Male
8
Minnesota
Nephew
Male
46
At Sea

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93G-WDL

 

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Ella B Shirley

Minnesota State Census, 1905
Name Ella B Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1905
Event Place Northfield, Ward Number: 03, Rice, Minnesota
Gender Female
Age 47
Race White
Birthplace Norway
Birth Year (Estimated) 1858
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway

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Ella Shirley

United States Census, 1910
Name Ella Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Northfield Ward 3, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 50
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1860
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1861
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 12
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Olene Shirley Head F 75 Norway
Ella Shirley Daughter F 50 Norway
Theo F Shirley Grandson M 18 Minnesota
Henry Gunner Nephew M 55 Norway

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Ella Shirley

United States Census, 1920
Name Ella Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Northfield, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 59
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1861
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1860
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Olena Shirley Head F 85 Norway
Ella Shirley Daughter F 59 Norway
Henery H Gunner Nephew M 65 At Sea

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Ella Shirley

United States Census, 1930
Name Ella Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Northfield, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 65
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1865
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1865
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 14
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Ella Shirley Head F 65 Norway
Pauline Acherman Sister F 60 Minnesota
Ar Clausen Lodger M 27 Minnesota
Julia Hugh Lodger F 57 England

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Ella B Shirley

United States Census, 1940
Name Ella B Shirley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 3, Northfield, Northfield City, Rice, Minnesota, United States
Sex Female
Age 78
Marital Status Single
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Minnesota
Birth Year (Estimated) 1862
Last Place of Residence Same House
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Ella B Shirley Head F 78 Minnesota
Pauline Ackerman Sister F 68 Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSK5-C3Y

 

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Ella B Shirley

Birth:  Feb. 25, 1861
Death:  Jan. 18, 1943
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Burial:
Oaklawn Cemetery 
Northfield
Rice County
Minnesota, USA
 
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Record added: Jul 18, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 93794215

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Olena Shirley

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Jan. 19, 1920
trans.gif
 
Burial:
Oaklawn Cemetery 
Northfield
Rice County
Minnesota, USA
 
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Created by: Mookie
Record added: Jul 18, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 93794217

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Denne Alma ligger også på samme kirkegård.

 

Alma Shirley

 

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Apr. 4, 1895
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Burial:
Oaklawn Cemetery 
Northfield
Rice County
Minnesota, USA
 
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]
 
Created by: Mookie
Record added: Jul 18, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 93794216

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=shirley&GSiman=1&GScid=1970523&GRid=93794216&

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Tusen takk. På familysearch var det ganske mye. Jag har tatt kontakt med noen av bidragsyterne der og får håpe på svar.

 

Igjen, tusen takk.

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Ser at immigrajonsår 1861 oppgis i Census 1900 og 1910.

I Census 1920 er immigrasjonsåret 1860.

 

Olena Shirly

United States Census, 1870

birth:
from 1831 to 1832
Norway
residence:
1870
Minnesota, United States
other:
Peter Oleson, Betsy Oleson, Ella Oleson, Ole Oleson, Polena Oleson, Knnte Oleson

 

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Olena Shirley

Minnesota State Census, 1875

birth:
1837
Norway
residence:
1875
Northfield City, Rice, Minnesota
other:
E C B Shirley, Ole Shirley, Paulina Shirley, Henry James

 

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Olena Shurley

Head

United States Census, 1880

birth:
1837
Norway
residence:
1880
Northfield, Rice, Minnesota, United States
children:
Ellen Shurley, Paulena Shurley
other:
Ole Shurley, Henry Gunner

 

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Olin Sherley

Minnesota State Census, 1885

birth:
1840
Norway
residence:
1885
Northfield, Rice, Minnesota
other:
Ella Sherley, Pauline Sherley, Olia Sherley

 

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Olive Shirlie

Minnesota State Census, 1895

birth:
1834
Norway
residence:
1895
Northfield city, Ward 03, Rice, Minnesota
other:
H Gunner, Ella Gunner

 

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Olena Shirley

Minnesota State Census, 1905

birth:
1834
Norway
residence:
1905
Northfield, Ward Number: 03, Rice, Minnesota

 

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Olene Shirley

Head

United States Census, 1900

birth:
May 1834
Norway
residence:
1900
Northfield Township Northfield city Ward 3, Rice, Minnesota, United States
immigration:
1861
 
child:
Ella B Shirley
other:
Ole F Shirley, Henry Gunner

 

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Olene Shirley

Head

United States Census, 1910

birth:
1835
Norway
residence:
1910
Northfield Ward 3, Rice, Minnesota, United States
immigration:
1861
 
child:
Ella Shirley
other:
Theo F Shirley, Henry Gunner

 

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Olena Shirley

Head

United States Census, 1920

birth:
1835
Norway
residence:
1920
Northfield, Rice, Minnesota, United States
immigration:
1860
 
child:
Ella Shirley
other:
Henery H Gunner

 

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Olena Shirley

Minnesota Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990

birth:
15 May 1834
 
death:
19 January 1920
Northfield, Rice, Minnesota
father:
Not Know
mother:
Not Know
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Halvor Tostensen Sjøli/Shirley må være død før Census 1870.

 

Han døde i 1865 (typhoid fever) ved hospitalet Fort Snelling, MN og var soldat i borgerkrigen fra 1864.

 

The U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865
Name:    Halvor Sjolee
Side:    Union
Regiment State/Origin:    Minnesota
Regiment:    Hatch's Independent Battalion, Minnesota Cavalry
Company:    F
Rank In:    Private
Rank Out:    Private
Alternate Name:    Halvoe/Sjalee; Halvour/Sjalee; Halvor/Sjalee
Film Number:    M546 roll 8

 

The U.S., Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles, 1861-1865
Name:    Hulver Sjolee
Age at Enlistment:    38
Enlistment Date:    22 Aug 1864
Rank at enlistment:    Private
State Served:    Minnesota
Survived the War?:    No
Service Record:    Enlisted in Company F, Minnesota Hatch's Cavalry Battalion on 22 Aug 1864.Mustered out on 19 Oct 1865 at Fort Snelling, MN.
Birth Date:    abt 1826
Sources:    Minnesota in the Civil and Indian Wars 1861-65

 

The Minnesota, Civil War Records, 1861-1865
Name:    Halvour Sjolie
Death Date:    19 Oct 1865
Enlistment Location:    Fort Snelling
Regiment:    Hatch's Battalion, Minnesota Volunteer Cavalry

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The 1890 Veterans Schedules
Name:    Halvor Shirley
Gender:    Male
Role:    Veteran
Death Year:    Bef 1890
Rank:    Private
Company:    View image
Regiment or vessel:    View image
Length of service:    View image
Household:    
Halvor Shirley    Veteran
Olena Shirley    Widow

 

The 1890 Veterans Schedules
Name:    Olena Shirley
Gender:    Female
Role:    Widow
Residence Date:    Jun 1890
Home in 1890 (Township, County, State):    Northfield, Rice, Minnesota

Enumeration District:    144
Company:    View image
Regiment or vessel:    View image
Length of service:    View image
Household:    
Halvor Shirley    Veteran
Olena Shirley    Widow

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SJOLIE, HALVORhttp://civilwar.vesterheim.org/s/sjo/
MN Hatch’s Independent Cavalry Battalion Co F. Residence: Eureka, Dakota County, Minnesota. Born in Solor, Norway. Civil War: Age 38. Mustered 22 Aug 1864. Private. Died 19 Oct 1865 at Fort Snelling, Minnesota. Sources: (MCIW) (Larson) (Ulvestad p328) “Sjolee, Hulver”

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The Minnesota, Homestead and Cash Entry Patents, Pre-1908
Name:    Halvor Sjolie
Land Office:    St Peter
Document Number:    593
Total Acres:    80
Misc. Doc. Nr.:    44
Signature:    Yes
Canceled Document:    No
Issue Date:    10 May 1870
Mineral Rights Reserved:    No
Metes and Bounds:    No
Statutory Reference:    12 Stat. 392
Multiple Warantee Names:    No
Act or Treaty:    20 May 1862
Multiple Patentee Names:    No
Entry Classification:    Homestead Entry Original
Land Description:    1 W½SE 5TH PM No 113 N 20 W 1

 

The U.S. General Land Office Records, 1776-2015
Name:    Halvor Sjolie
Issue Date:    10 May 1870
Place:    Dakota, Minnesota, USA
Land Office:    St. Peter
Meridian:    5th PM
Township:    113-N
Range:    20-W
Section:    10
Accession Number:    MN1300__.004
Document Number:    593
 

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The U.S. General Land Office Records, 1776-2015
Name:    Halvor Sjolee
Issue Date:    19 Jan 1884
Place:    Wilkin, Minnesota, USA
Land Office:    Fergus Falls
Meridian:    5th PM
Township:    130-N
Range:    46-W
Section:    8
Accession Number:    MN1020__.192
Document Number:    2842

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Olena Shirley

Minnesota Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990

birth:
15 May 1834
 
death:
19 January 1920
Northfield, Rice, Minnesota

 

 

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