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Johannes Knudsen, Ringsaker, hvor ble det av ham

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Kolbjorn Sveen

Johannes Knudsen f. 20/6 1825 Haugeie, Br.dal g. 12/2 1847 Romedal m. Gønner Andersdtr. f. 10/5 1821 Harstadeie, Romedal. De kjøpte vestre Høyby i Veldre, men solgte ca 1871. Jeg finner ikke Johannes med familie i Veldre (Ringsaker) i 1875. Johannes sine foreldre og søsken reiste til LaCross. Var det slik at Johannes dro etter med sin familie? Noen resere på Amerika som kan hjelpe?

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Kolbjorn Sveen

Ja, dette er nok rett folk. Johannes sin far var dra Svennes i Valdres.

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Det betyr vel at Jørgines foreldre også dro til Amerika? Men det er vel ikke lett å finne dem? Hun kalles tydelig vis Georgiana Swenas Nelson da hun døde i 1943. Så en kunne jo muligens anta at hennes familie brukte navnet Swenas som da må være en amerikanisert versjon av Svennes?

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Ann-Mary Engum

Ifølge Geni-basen og Find a grave het Georgina sin ektemann Hans Peter Nelson 1843-1920.

 

Her står Georgina som enke. 

Georgina Nelsen

United States Census, 1900

 

Name: Georgina Nelsen
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: North Billings Precinct Billings city (pt.) Ward 1-4, Yellowstone, Montana, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 40
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Race: W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Number of Living Children: 1
Birth Date: Jan 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1871
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother of how many children: 8
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Georgina Nelsen
Head
Female
40
Norway
Daughter
Female
16
Montana
Daughter
Female
14
Montana
Son
Male
12
Montana
Son
Male
9
Montana
Son
Male
6
Montana
Daughter
Female
19
South Dakota
Image of Georgina Nelsen, United States Census, 1900

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Record Collection:

United States Census, 1900

Document Information:
Attached to:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM56-BYJ

 

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Kolbjorn Sveen

Du hamrer inn svar her raskere enn jeg kan lese. Supert! Jeg ser Jørgine/Georgine dro i 1871. Altså samme år som faren solgte garden, så jeg tror at foreldrene også måtte dra? 

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Rart hun står som enke i Census 1900.

Ektemannen døde angivelig i 1920.

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Emigrasjon 23 juni 1871.

 

Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 gammel

 

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=21749&merk=21749#ovre

 
  Hamn Nr. År Mnd. Dag Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Stand Yrke Alder Bustad Reisemål Merknad Utlending Frakt Linje
21749 Oslo 1699A 1871 Juni 23 Johannes Knudsen Høiby m G Gbr. 46 Ringsager Sioux City 862 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
21750 Oslo 1699B 1871 Juni 23 Gunvor   f G   50 Ringsager Sioux City 863 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
21751 Oslo 1699C 1871 Juni 23 Knud   m u   11 Ringsager Sioux City 864 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
21752 Oslo 1699D 1871 Juni 23 Gina   f u   9 Ringsager Sioux City 865 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
21753 Oslo 1699E 1871 Juni 23 Ole Evensen Hageberg m E Husmand 47 Ringsager Sioux City 866 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
21754 Oslo 1699F 1871 Juni 23 Even Paulsen Sveeie m G Skrædder, Arb. 36 Ringsager Sioux City 867 Norsk Spd. 275 Hero fglass.gif
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På Find a grave står det på ektemannen Hans Peter Nelson:

"

Born in Drammen, Norway. Immigrated to United States in 1866 with first wife , Anne Jorgine Johannesdatter. Settled in Dakota Territory. After death of first wife, remarried to Georgianna Svennes." 

 

Ser at alder ikke stemmer på denne Hans P. Nelson. 

 

 

Gina Nelson

United States Census, 1880
 

 

 

Name: Gina Nelson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Belle Fourche, Lawrence, Dakota Territory, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W
Occupation: Keeping House
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 338
Person Number: 1
Volume: 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Self
Male
46
Norway
Gina Nelson
Wife
Female
20
Norway
Daughter
Female
16
Norway
Daughter
Female
12
Wisconsin, United States
Daughter
Female
9
Iowa, United States
Daughter
Female
0
Dakota Territories

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCV7-VB2

 

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Stusser veldig på enkestatusen til Georgina i 1900.

 

Dette er vel sønnen John Webster. 

 

John Webster Nelson

Montana, Sweet Grass County Records, 1887-2011

Name: John Webster Nelson
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 02 Jan 1894
Event Place: Reed Point, Sweet Grass, Montana, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Hans Peter Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgiana Highby
Certificate Number: 91
Volume Number: Birth certificates vol 1 1892-1908

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV3Q-Q3CS

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89WN-VHSQ?cc=2036960

 

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John Webster Nelson

Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950

 

 

 

Name: John Webster Nelson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jul 1915
Event Place: Stillwater, , Montana
Age: 21
Birth Year (Estimated): 1894
Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgina Swannis
Spouse's Name: Hazel M. Irvin
Spouse's Age: 18
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Spouse's Father's Name: John Irvin
Spouse's Mother's Name: Bertha Jones

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F37X-JHF

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-673S-2KW?cc=1609797

 

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Name: John Webster Nelson
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Yellowstone County, Montana, United States
Gender: Male
Nationality: United States
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1894
Birthplace: Reeds Point, Montana, United States

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8QK-T23

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L17T-36C?cc=1968530

 

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John Webster Nelson

Idaho Death Certificates, 1938-1961

Name: John Webster Nelson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 01 Oct 1946
Event Place: Coeur D'Alene, Kootenai, Idaho, United States
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1894
Birthplace: Montana
Father's Birthplace: Unknown
Mother's Birthplace: Unknown
Certificate Number: 150735

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2M1-GLWX

 

 

 

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Datteren Palma. 

Palma Nelson Wilson

Montana, County Births and Deaths, 1840-2004

Name: Palma Nelson Wilson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 21 Mar 1955
Event Place: Helena, Lewis and Clark, Montana, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 73
Birth Year (Estimated): 1882
Father's Name: Hans P Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgianna Higby
Spouse's Name: Wilson

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKNR-NBZZ

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GB2V-XNX?cc=1930397

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Name: Charles N. Nelson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Jul 1908
Event Place: Red Lodge, Carbon, Montana
Age: 21
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birthplace: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Birth Year (Estimated): 1887
Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgania Higby
Spouse's Name: Hattie Elizabeth Mielenz
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birthplace: Beamer, Nebraska
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1889
Spouse's Father's Name: William Mielenz
Spouse's Mother's Name: Lizzie Kittell

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3QD-6FB

 

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Ifølge Geni-basen er dette stedatter av Georgina. 

 

Laura Nelson

Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950

 

Name: Thomas Spellman
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Apr 1890
Event Place: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Age: 40
Birth Year (Estimated): 1850
Father's Name: Peter Spellman
Mother's Name: Mary Shields
Spouse's Name: Laura Nelson
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1865
Spouse's Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Spouse's Mother's Name: Georgiana Jansen

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F37F-B5D

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S5S-VLC?cc=1609797

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Goldie I. Nelson

Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950

Name: Glen L. Foster
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Mar 1908
Event Place: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Age: 34
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Birthplace: Amwell, Wayne, Illinois
Birth Year (Estimated): 1874
Father's Name: Melville E. Foster
Mother's Name: Amelia A. Marsh
Additional Relatives: X
Spouse's Name: Goldie I. Nelson
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birthplace: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Spouse's Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Spouse's Mother's Name: Georgiana Svennes

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3QJ-TGB

 

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Name: Arthur H. Nelson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Mar 1911
Event Place: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birthplace: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Birth Year (Estimated): 1889
Father's Name: Hans Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgina Sevens
Spouse's Name: Ethyl M. Dunn
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birthplace: Flager, Marion, Iowa
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1890
Spouse's Father's Name: John P. Dunn
Spouse's Mother's Name: Katherine Viers

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3QJ-MF4

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QT7-YZ4?cc=1609797

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Arthur Harrison Nelson

Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950

Name: Arthur Harrison Nelson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Jun 1948
Event Place: Stanford, Judith Basin, Montana
Age: 59
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Birthplace: Billings, Montana
Birth Year (Estimated): 1889
Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Mother's Name: Georgianna Higby
Spouse's Name: Ann Nelson
Spouse's Age: 35
Spouse's Marital Status: Divorced
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birthplace: Austria
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1913
Spouse's Father's Name: Paul Super
Spouse's Mother's Name: Frances Pavelick

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F33V-338

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Stedatter av Georgina

 

Johana Nelson

Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950

Name: Hubert S. Greene
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Jul 1890
Event Place: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Age: 26
Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Father's Name: Sidney T. Greene
Mother's Name: Mary E. Clark
Spouse's Name: Johana Nelson
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1871
Spouse's Father's Name: Hans P. Nelson
Spouse's Mother's Name: Georgianna Jansen

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F37F-B57

 

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Johannes Higbye

mentioned in the record of Knudt J Higbye and Ada Sliger

 
Name: Johannes Higbye
Sex: Male
Wife: Gonnor Anderson
Son: Knudt J Higbye

Other information in the record of Knudt J Higbye and Ada Sliger

from British Columbia Marriage Registrations

Name: Knudt J Higbye
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Feb 1899
Event Place: Fort Steele, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birthplace: , Norway
Father's Name: Johannes Higbye
Mother's Name: Gonnor Anderson
Spouse's Name: Ada Sliger
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 42
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Birthplace: Highland, Wisconsin
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Hinderliter
Spouse's Mother's Name: Melinda Ano
Certificate Type: License
Registration Number: 99 09 149472

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDDM-HXZ

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1MQ-8YY?cc=1307718

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John,Gønner, Knut og Gina sin ankomst i New York i 1871.

De står feilaktig som født i Germany. 

 

 

 

 

John K Hoiby

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891
 

 

 

Name: John K Hoiby
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
Birthplace: Germany
Ship Name: Algeria

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPV-LGVC

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Knut Higby

United States Census, 1880

Name: Knut Higby
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Golden Gate, Lawrence, Dakota Territory, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race: W
Occupation: Miner
Relationship to Head of Household: Other
Relationship to Head of Household: Other
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 217
Person Number: 7
Volume: 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Self
Male
29
Maryland, United States
Wife
Female
19
Iowa, United States
Other
Male
47
Ohio, United States
Other
Male
29
Wisconsin, United States
Other
Male
29
Canada
Other
Male
31
Canada
Other
Male
32
Canada
Knut Higby
Other
Male
22
Norway
Other
Male
23
Pennsylvania, United States
Other
Male
32
Maine, United States
Other
Male
30
New York, United States
Other
Male
21
Wisconsin, United States
Other
Male
29
Sweden
Other
Male
25
Ohio, United States
Other
Male
31
Iowa, United States
 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCV7-PZJ

 

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Kolbjorn Sveen

Jeg får dårlig samvittighet for å ha spurt. Her er det lagt ned mye godt arbeid. Så mye at jeg må bruke laang tid på i fordøye dette. Hjertlig!!!

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Tusen takk,Kolbjørn!   🙂

Ekstra moro å hjelpe til i letingen når man får en slik flott respons!

🙂

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På skjemaet da Gønner, Johannes Gina og Knud reiste, står det fragt 250 spd. Formoder at det var bilettprisen. Mange - meg inklusive  lurer jo på åssen de klarte å betale bilwtten?

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Knut J. Higbye var enkemann da han giftet seg med Ada Sliger.

 

British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932; 1937-193

 

 

Name: Knudt J Higbye
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Feb 1899
Event Place: Fort Steele, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birthplace: , Norway
Father's Name: Johannes Higbye
Mother's Name: Gonnor Anderson
Spouse's Name: Ada Sliger
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 42
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Birthplace: Highland, Wisconsin
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Hinderliter
Spouse's Mother's Name: Melinda Ano
Certificate Type: License
Registration Number: 99 09 149472

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDDM-HXC

 

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Knut J Higbys

Canada Census, 1901

 

Name: Knut J Higbys
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Yale & Cariboo, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Marital Status: Married
Nationality: Canadian
Ethnicity: Norwegian
Religion: Lutheran
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1871
Page: 2

Image of Knut J Higbys, Canada Census, 1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHV2-VC9

 

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Ada Higbys

Canada Census, 1901

Name: Ada Higbys
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Yale & Cariboo, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Female
Age: 44
Marital Status: Married
Nationality: Canadian
Ethnicity: German
Religion: Roman Catholic
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Birthplace: USA
Immigration Year: 1897
Page: 2
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Ada Higbys
Wife
Female
44
USA
Daughter
Female
20
USA

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHV2-VCS

 

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Knudt J Higby

Canada, Northwest Provinces Census, 1906
 

 

 

Name: Knudt J Higby
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1906
Event Place: 4, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Marital Status: Married
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHV6-51W

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