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Elin Galtung Lihaug
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Dette var interessant!

Man skulle jo tro at man kunne stole mer på det han har lagt ut selv, enn på det som fremkommer i media, som kan være basert på misforståelser ... Her står det ikke noe om hverken indisk, karibisk eller indiansk, men derimot afro-amerikansk, og det virker jo mer sannsynlig etter bildene å dømme. Så var det den andre halvparten av morens aner, da. Nå er den plutselig blitt russisk og norsk. Hmmm. Lurer på om det stod norsk i denne artikkelen for ett år siden også, før han traff Märtha Louise.

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Ann N

Farens bestemor var Rita Joseph gift Harris, såvidt vi har funnet. Hennes foreldre bodde ifølge Geni i New Orleans. Men faren finner jeg bare ett sted (på Familysearch): Hennes vielse. De har ikke lagt opp info enda om hvordan de fant ut hvem Jennies (står Eugenie på Geni) foreldre var. Om de opplysningene er riktige, bodde hennes mors foreldre i Louisiana lenge før hun ble født.

 

Jeg finner ikke Rita i 1940 census. Vet ikke når hun døde. Faren ble født 1929, ikke 1925. Det er mulighet for overlapp der.

 

Ellers har jeg prøvd å få oppmerksomheten til Anne angående farsslekta. Joseph Casimir Verrett var ikke far til Leon, med mindre han var bigamist.

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Ann N

Leste litt på den hollandske slavehandelen i Ghana. Den skal ha blitt avsluttet i 1814. Hans oldemor ble født ca 1884. Så om det med 1814 er korrekt må vi nok lenger bak om det var en formoder som unnslapp og dro til Haiti.

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Elin Galtung Lihaug
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#52 - Det ville være fint om du kunne oppgi kilder for dine opplysninger (bortsett fra vielsen på FamilySearch - den har vi allerede).  Hvis alt er fra Geni, kan det  betraktes som "under arbeid". Hvem er Anne?

 

På dette forumet bruker vi fullt visningsnavn. Vennligst oppgi hele navnet ditt, se veiledning i innlegg #18 her: 

 

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Ann N
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Anne M Berge er kurator på Geni.

 

Er ikke klar for å legge ut hele navnet mitt akkurat nå. Så ikke noe om det da jeg signet opp.

 

Familysearch ID for faren: 

 

https://familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G914-Z3V

 

Så kan du sjekke kildene selv.

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Prøvde å legge inn link, tror jeg har fått det til nå

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Elin Galtung Lihaug
6 minutter siden, Ann N skrev:

Familysearch ID for faren: G914-Z3V

 

Så kan du sjekke kildene selv.

 

Det er ikke bare jeg som leser denne tråden. Det er nok mange som vil bli glade for å få lenkene fullt ut, ikke bare som et ID-nummer.

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Ann-Mary Engum
57 minutter siden, Ann N skrev:

Anne M Berge er kurator på Geni.

 

Er ikke klar for å legge ut hele navnet mitt akkurat nå. Så ikke noe om det da jeg signet opp.

 

Familysearch ID for faren: 

 

https://familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G914-Z3V

 

Så kan du sjekke kildene selv.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/content/change-display-name

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Hege Monica Eskedal
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Walter Harris, b. 1880, Louisiana

gm. Rita A. Joseph, b. X, Louisiana

    Barn:        Elvira Augustine f.Harris, b. 01.08.1906, Louisiana, d. 20.12 2001

              gm. Leon Solomon Verette/Verrett  b. 16.08.1908, d. 19.01.1988 - Bosted i 1920: Louisiana Ave 719, New Orleans Ward 12. Han var carpenter. 

                      Barn:  David Benjamin b. 13.11.1929, d. 07.06.2017 i California. 

                                  Shirley Mae b. 1933, operasanger

                                  Leon b. 1935 

                                  M.fl.

 

Leon Solomons foreldre:

                      Mary Verret b. ca 1888, Lousiana

                      Joseph Verret b. ca. 1885, Louisiana

                       De bodde på et tidspunkt i St. Anthony Street 930 house 2041, Louisiana. 

 

Når det gjelder de levende kan mye tyde på at det er flere ekteskap på begge foreldrene. En bokstav, G. ,som opptrer i et navn kan godt stå for familienavnet Guca, for de som ønsker å finne ut mer. Ekteskapet som er mest interessant varte fra 19.02.1972 - april 1977. Mye tyder på at det fortelles mange halvsannheter i denne historien. 

Kildene mine er kun US records bortsett fra dødsdatoen til D. B. V. som er fra en internettkilde: tributes dått kom.

 

 

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Elin Galtung Lihaug

Jeg må visst gjenta:

 

1. Ordensreglene for dette forumet krever at man bruker fullt navn som visningsnavn - se her hvordan du endrer det: 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/content/change-display-name

 

2. Du nevner "US records" som kilder - det er litt lettvint i denne sammenheng.

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Hege Monica Eskedal
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7 minutter siden, Elin Galtung Lihaug skrev:

Jeg må visst gjenta:

 

1. Ordensreglene for dette forumet krever at man bruker fullt navn som visningsnavn - se her hvordan du endrer det: 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/content/change-display-name

 

2. Du nevner "US records" som kilder - det er litt lettvint i denne sammenheng.

 

Jeg har både oppgitt fullt navn og brukt offisielle kilder (folketellinger, fødsels-, ekteskaps- og dødsregistre via ancestry.com). Jeg har kryssjekket alt av materiale, selv om det selvfølgelig kan fremkomme feil. 

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Elin Galtung Lihaug

Ja, takk - du endret visningsnavnet raskt! Ancestry.com er bra.

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Anne M. Berge

Noen har lurt på kilde til Leon Solomon Verrets foreldre, og dette er det jeg har av kilder: 

 

Leon Verrett

Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957Tools

 

Name:Leon Verrett

Event Type:Marriage

Event Date:29 Jan 1929

Event Place:Orleans, Louisiana, United States

Gender:Male

Age:21

Birth Year (Estimated):1908

Father's Name:Joseph Verrett

Mother's Name:Mary Verrett

Spouse's Name:Elvira Harris

Spouse's Gender:Female

Spouse's Age:22

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):1907

Spouse's Father's Name:Walter Harris

Spouse's Mother's Name:Rita Harris

 

"Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJ8-722M : 13 March 2018), Leon Verrett and Elvira Harris, 29 Jan 1929; citing Orleans, Louisiana, United States, various parish courthouses, Louisiana; FHL microfilm 2,294,527. 

 

Det som ligger på Geni videre bak her er det andre som har lagt inn, og jeg tror det som fins av kilder også er lagt inn. 

 

(Gå inn på revision/historikk for å se hva som er gjort av hvem på Geni, det funker ca som på Wikipedia.) 

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Anne M. Berge

1920 census viser familien 

 

Leon Verret

United States Census, 1920Tools

 

 

Name:Leon Verret

Event Type:Census

Event Date:1920

Event Place:New Orleans Ward 12, Orleans, Louisiana, United States

Gender:Male

Age:12

Marital Status:Single

Race:Black

Race:Black

Relationship to Head of Household:Son

Relationship to Head of Household:Son

Birth Year (Estimated):1908

Birthplace:Louisiana

Father's Birthplace:Louisiana

Mother's Birthplace:Louisiana

Sheet Letter:A

Sheet Number:2

 

Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Joseph Verret    Head    Male    35    Louisiana
Mary Verret    Wife    Female    32    Louisiana
Harrison Verret    Son    Male    13    Louisiana
Leon Verret    Son    Male    12    Louisiana
Walter Verret    Son    Male    9    Louisiana
Gustave Verret    Son    Male    7    Louisiana
 

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MV7J-6FJ : accessed 19 May 2019), Leon Verret in household of Joseph Verret, New Orleans Ward 12, Orleans, Louisiana, United States; citing ED 204, sheet 2A, line 10, family 27, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 623; FHL microfilm 1,820,623.

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2 timer siden, Anne M. Berge skrev:

Noen har lurt på kilde til Leon Solomon Verrets foreldre, og dette er det jeg har av kilder: 

 

Leon Verrett

Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957Tools

 

Name:Leon Verrett

Event Type:Marriage

Event Date:29 Jan 1929

Event Place:Orleans, Louisiana, United States

Gender:Male

Age:21

Birth Year (Estimated):1908

Father's Name:Joseph Verrett

Mother's Name:Mary Verrett

Spouse's Name:Elvira Harris

Spouse's Gender:Female

Spouse's Age:22

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):1907

Spouse's Father's Name:Walter Harris

Spouse's Mother's Name:Rita Harris

 

"Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJ8-722M : 13 March 2018), Leon Verrett and Elvira Harris, 29 Jan 1929; citing Orleans, Louisiana, United States, various parish courthouses, Louisiana; FHL microfilm 2,294,527. 

 

Det som ligger på Geni videre bak her er det andre som har lagt inn, og jeg tror det som fins av kilder også er lagt inn. 

 

(Gå inn på revision/historikk for å se hva som er gjort av hvem på Geni, det funker ca som på Wikipedia.) 

 

Leon Verrett

Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957

Name: Leon Verrett
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jan 1929
Event Place: Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
Father's Name: Joseph Verrett
Mother's Name: Mary Verrett
Spouse's Name: Elvira Harris
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1907
Spouse's Father's Name: Walter Harris
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rita Harris

 

 

Record Collection:

Louisiana, Parish Marriages, 1837-1957

 
Document Information:
Reference ID 13853
GS Film Number 002294527
Digital Folder Number 004924390
Image Number 01414
Attached to:
 
1909–1988 • G914-H6W
 
 
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Leon Solomon Verrett

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Leon Solomon Verrett
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 19 Jan 1988
Event Place: Sacramento, California, United States
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1908
Birthplace: Louisiana
Gender: Male
Mother's Name: Lee
 
 
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Leon Solomon Verrett

BIRTH 16 Aug 1908
DEATH 19 Jan 1988 (aged 79)
BURIAL Fair Oaks, Sacramento County, California, USA
MEMORIAL ID 100678024 · View Source
 
På samme kirkegård:
 

Elvira Ausustine Verrett

BIRTH 1 Aug 1906
DEATH 20 Dec 2001 (aged 95)
BURIAL Fair Oaks, Sacramento County, California, USA
MEMORIAL ID 100678031 · View Source
 
 

Shirley Verrett 

BIRTH 31 May 1931
New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, USA
DEATH 5 Nov 2010 (aged 79)
Ann Arbor, Washtenaw County, Michigan, USA
BURIAL Fair Oaks, Sacramento County, California, USA
MEMORIAL ID 61194840 · View Source
 
 

Opera Singer. An esteemed mezzo soprano, she later added some of the heavier soprano roles to her repertoire. Raised in New Orleans and later Los Angeles by a rather strict family who, disapproving of opera, wanted her to become a concert singer, she studied at New York's Juilliard School and made her 1957 professional debut in Benjamin Britten's "The Rape of Lucretia". Verrett was first heard at the New York City Opera in 1958 as Irina in Kurt Weill's "Lost in the Stars", then went on to win the 1961 Metropolitan Opera auditions. Living for a time in Europe, she was heard in several major venues, making her Covent Garden, London, bow in 1966 as the fortune teller Ulrica from Giuseppe Verdi's "Un Ballo in Maschera". Returning to America, she gave the first of her 126 Metropolitan Opera performances in 1968 as Georges Bizet's cigarette girl "Carmen", then was first seen at La Scala Milano in 1969 as the title heroine of Camille Saint-Saens' "Samson et Dalila". Verrett built her career despite the handicap of chronic allergies, earning praise in such mezzo roles as Adalgisa from Vincenzo Bellini's "Norma", Princess Eboli of Verdi's "Don Carlo" and the gypsy Azucena from the same composer's "Il Trovatore". In 1973 she was to give a performance that has become legendary, singing Cassandra in Part I of Hector Berlioz' "Les Troyens", then filling-in for an indisposed Christa Ludwig as Dido in Part II. Gradually adding soprano roles, not always to critical acclaim, she was Lady Macbeth from Verdi's "Macbeth", and the title leads of Bellini's "Norma", Verdi's "Aida", and Puccini's "Tosca", singing the last named in a 1978 "Live from the Met" telecast opposite Luciano Pavarotti as the painter Mario Cavaradossi. In 1981 she even appeared as Desdemona in a Boston production of Verdi's "Otello" which was conducted by Sarah Caldwell and featured James Cracken as the Moor, a role usually avoided by black singers because of the story line. Verrett made her 1994 Broadway debut as Nettie Fowler in Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Carousel", then in 1996 assumed a professorship at the University of Michigan. She published her autobiography, "I Never Walked Alone", in 2003 and retired in 2009. She died of heart failure after being ill for several months leaving a significant recorded legacy of both studio and live performances.

Bio by: Bob Hufford

 
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Hun er dobbelt registrert. 
 

Shirley Verrett-LoMonaco

BIRTH 31 May 1931
DEATH 5 Nov 2010 (aged 79)
BURIAL Fair Oaks, Sacramento County, California, USA
MEMORIAL ID 100678040 · View Source
H 5 Nov 2010 (aged 7Ann Ar
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Anne-Lise Hansen

Census 1930:

 

Leon Verette

Son-in-law

United States Census, 1930

birth:
1909
Louisiana
residence:
1930
New Orleans (Districts 1-250), Orleans, Louisiana, United States
spouse:
Elvia A Verette
child:
David B Verette
other:
Walter Harris, Rita A Harris, Noela S Harris, Hilda L Harris, Vivian M Harris, Walter N. Harris...
  

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Leon Verrett

United States Census, 1940

Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 7, New Orleans, New Orleans City, Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Marital Status: Married
Race: Negro
Race: Negro
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Louisiana
Birth Year (Estimated): 1909
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Leon Verrett
Head
Male
31
Louisiana
Wife
Female
33
Louisiana
Son
Male
10
Louisiana
Daughter
Female
8
Louisiana
Son
Male
6
Louisiana
Daughter
Female
5
Louisiana
Son
Male
2
Louisiana

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VYPJ-8QK

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MR-PBM

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Elin Galtung Lihaug

Siden det er så mange delvis selvmotsigende opplysninger om morsslekten, tenkte jeg det kunne være fint om vi først kunne bekrefte eller avkrefte det han sier om sin farsslekt, se #50.

My great-grandmother and her family were members of the Yoruba tribe in Ghana. When slavery broke out they tried to flee, a lot of my family members were taken into slavery, to the Dutch slave camps in Ghana. My great-grandmother ended up escaping capture and managed to get a boat to Haiti. There she became a spiritualist and a medician and eventually went to New Orleans where she was practising healing. Once there she met a man to whom she got married, and they had my grandmother. The Shaman tradition of my family continued on U.S. soil. Soon after, my father was born in 1925, and he had a special relationship with my great-grandmother; he became her apprentice... 

 

Jeg prøver å få litt orden på tankene - kan dette stemme:

 

Han nevner en oldemor som hadde spesielle evner. Hun var født i Ghana, kom til Haiti og endte opp i New Orleans. Dette må være enten farens farmor, Mary Verrett f. Lee (1888 - ) eller farens mormor, Rita Harris f. Joseph (1883 - ). Var begge født i USA/Louisiana, eller var noen av disse født i Ghana, tro?

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Leonce Verrett

United States Census, 1910

Name: Leonce Verrett
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Napoleonville, Assumption, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 1
Marital Status: Single
Race: Black
Race: Black
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1909
Birthplace: Louisiana
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Head
Male
26
Louisiana
Wife
Female
20
Louisiana
Son
Male
3
Louisiana
Leonce Verrett
Son
Male
1
Louisiana

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPT6-KHF

 

View the original document

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RKQ-XCT?cc=1727033

 

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Leon Verret

United States Census, 1920

Name: Leon Verret
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: New Orleans Ward 12, Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 12
Marital Status: Single
Race: Black
Race: Black
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
Birthplace: Louisiana
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 2
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Head
Male
35
Louisiana
Wife
Female
32
Louisiana
Son
Male
13
Louisiana
Leon Verret
Son
Male
12
Louisiana
Son
Male
9
Louisiana
Son
Male
7
Louisiana

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MV7J-6FJ

 

View the original document

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR6G-J72?cc=1488411

 

 

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Åsbjørg Susort
16 minutter siden, Elin Galtung Lihaug skrev:

When slavery broke out they tried to flee, a lot of my family members were taken into slavery, to the Dutch slave camps in Ghana. My great-grandmother ended up escaping capture and managed to get a boat to Haiti.

Slavehandelen fra Afrika til Amerika og Vest India foregikk fra midten av 1600-tallet til tidlig 1800-tallet. Her må vi nok noen flere generasjoner tilbake...

 

Se gjerne også denne:

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansk-norsk_slavehandel

Et utdrag der en by "Frederiksted" er nevnt...:

Etter at forbudet mot transatlantisk slavehandel trådte i kraft i 1803, var det fortsatt tillatt å handle med slaver innad i Dansk Vestindia.[2]

Slaveriet oppheves

I 1847 ble det utstedt en kongelig forordning som bestemte at barn født av slaver skulle være frie og slaveriet skulle opphøre helt etter en overgangsperiode på 12 år.[2] Slaveriet ble imidlertid forbudt i 1848. Guvernør Peter von Scholten avskaffet slaveriet på St. Croix i forbindelse med et slaveopprør i byen Frederiksted. Guvernør von Scholten kunngjorde på eget initiativ at slavene var frie fra 3. juli 1848.

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Dette er kanskje familien i 1910 census, men her står faren nevnt som Gustave. Navn og alder på Leon og Harrison stemmer med 1920-telling. Navn på far kan være feilnotert? Familien er i hvert fall født i Louisiana, USA.

 

UPS Ser nå at Ann-Mary kom meg i forkjøpet med denne. 

 

Leonce Verrett

United States Census, 1910
Name Leonce Verrett
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Napoleonville, Assumption, Louisiana, United States
Gender Male
Age 1
Marital Status Single
Race Black
Race Black
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1909
Birthplace Louisiana
Father's Birthplace Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace Louisiana
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Gustave Verrett Head M 26 Louisiana
Mary Verrett Wife F 20 Louisiana
Harrison Verrett Son M 3 Louisiana
Leonce Verrett Son M 1 Louisiana
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPT6-KHF : accessed 19 May 2019), Leonce Verrett in household of Gustave Verrett, Napoleonville, Assumption, Louisiana, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 8, sheet 1A, family 7, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 508; FHL microfilm 1,374,521.

Edited by Anne M. Berge

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Joseph Jr, fra Findagrave https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107365924/joseph-verrett 

 

Ventura County Star 
March 26 to March 29, 2013

Joseph Verrett Jr. (1922 - 2013)
Obituary

Joseph Verrett, Jr. went home to be with the Lord on Thursday, March 7, 2013, following a lengthy illness. Joseph was born on March 8, 1922, to Joseph and Mary Verrett of New Orleans, La.; he was the second youngest son of seven brothers and three sisters.

Joseph served four years in the United States Army and was awarded several medals for the American Theater Campaign, Good Conduct Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal with two bronze stars, Philippine Liberation Ribbon and World War II Victory Medal and was honorably discharged.

Joseph met and married "the love of his life," Naomi, in 1942. She preceded him in death in 1977. He was a loving husband, father, and a devoted Deacon. Joseph worked as a master builder, part of Verrett Construction and also independent of the company. He retired from Port Hueneme C.B.C. Naval Base as a locksmith in December 1983.

Joseph is survived by his sons, Joseph Verrett, III (Nell) of Elk Grove, Calif.; Michael Verrett (Brandee) of Pasadena, Calif.; and was preceded in death by his son, Raymond Verrett of Chicago, Ill., in 2008; also survived by daughters, Irlene Wesley (John) of Palmdale, Calif., and Deborah Gutierrez of Oxnard, Calif.; 13 grandchildren and 14 great-grandchildren; sister, Jacqueline Johnson of Long Beach, Calif.; sister-in-law, Ira Mae Verrett of Oxnard, Calif.; and a host of nieces, nephews, relatives and friends. He will be truly missed.

Visitation will take place Friday, March 29, from 12 Noon until 8 p.m. at the Ted Mayr Funeral Home, 3150 Loma Vista Road, Ventura.

Service will take place Saturday, March 30, 11 a.m. at Evangelistic Missionary Baptist Church, 125 East Pearl Street, Port Hueneme, with The Reverend Torrence K. Nivens officiating. Burial will follow at Ivy Lawn Memorial Park, Ventura, with military honors rendered by the United States Army. Arrangements are under the direction of the Ted Mayr Funeral Home, Ventura. Condolences may be left at TedMayrFuneralHome.com. 

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