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Anne M. Berge

Edward B Urquhart

United States Census, 1930
Name Edward B Urquhart
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Manhattan (Districts 0501-0750), New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 13
Marital Status Single
Race Negro
Race Negro
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1917
Birthplace New York
Father's Birthplace New York
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 13
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Frank Urquhart Head M 36 New York
Edward B Urquhart Son M 13 New York
Catherine C Urquhart Daughter F 15 New York
James Mayo Boarder M 2 New York
Albert Mayo Boarder M 0 New York
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42C-93W : accessed 22 May 2019), Edward B Urquhart in household of Frank Urquhart, Manhattan (Districts 0501-0750), New York, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 523, sheet 13B, line 86, family 240, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 1560; FHL microfilm 2,341,295.

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Anne M. Berge

Edward Brinn født 1895 dukker først opp i 1905 på barnehjem: 

 

1905 census fra Ancestry.com
Colored Orphan Asylum 

Name:    Edward F Brinn
Birth Year:    abt 1895
Birth Place:    United States
Age:    10
Gender:    Male
Race:    Black
Residence Year:    1905
Residence:    Manhattan, New York, New York, USA
Relationship to Head:    Inmate
Assembly District:    23
Election District:    28


1910 census fra Ancestry.com
Name:    Edward Brinn
Age in 1910:    16
Birth Year:    abt 1894
Birthplace:    New York
Home in 1910:    Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
Race:    Black
Gender:    Male
Marital status:    Single
Father's Birthplace:    West Indies
Mother's Birthplace:    West Indies
Occupation:    Waiter
Industry:    NY Inst for the Instraction of the Deaf & Dumb
Employer, Employee or Other:    Wage Earner
Out of Work:    N
Number of weeks out of work:    0
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Edward Brinn    16

 

 

Info fra brukertre fra familien: 

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Frank Urquhart & Edward Brinn met and befriended each other there., Colored Orphan Asylum, Manhattan, New York, New York, USA

 

 

1915 census fra Ancestry.com
Name:    Edward Brinn
Birth Year:    abt 1895
Birth Place:    United States
Age:    20
Gender:    Male
Residence Place:    New York, New York
Relationship:    Employee
Color or Race:    Black
Assembly District:    23
House Number:    91
Line Number:    9
Page Number:    12

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Anne M. Berge

Lilli/Lillian med moren Josefine og søsken finner vi i New York i 1920: 

 

United States Census, 1920

Name:    Josephine Olsen
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1920
Event Place:    Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York, United States
Gender:    Female
Age:    47
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Race:    White
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Birth Year (Estimated):    1873
Birthplace:    Norway
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Sheet Letter:    A
Sheet Number:    7

 

Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Josephine Olsen    Head    Female    47    Norway
Christ Olsen    Son    Male    26    Norway
Lillian Olsen    Daughter    Female    24    Norway
Fred Olsen    Son    Male    14    Norway
George Olsen    Son    Male    8    New York
Roald Olsen    Son    Male    7    New York
Irine Olsen    Daughter    Female    5    New York

 

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ1P-F75 : accessed 21 May 2019), Josephine Olsen, Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York, United States; citing ED 1509, sheet 7A, line 42, family 165, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1227; FHL microfilm 1,821,227.

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Anne M. Berge
Akkurat nå, Anne M. Berge skrev:

Lilli/Lillian med moren Josefine og søsken finner vi i New York i 1920: 

 

United States Census, 1920

Name:    Josephine Olsen
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1920
Event Place:    Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York, United States
Gender:    Female
Age:    47
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Race:    White
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Birth Year (Estimated):    1873
Birthplace:    Norway
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Sheet Letter:    A
Sheet Number:    7

 

Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Josephine Olsen    Head    Female    47    Norway
Christ Olsen    Son    Male    26    Norway
Lillian Olsen    Daughter    Female    24    Norway
Fred Olsen    Son    Male    14    Norway
George Olsen    Son    Male    8    New York
Roald Olsen    Son    Male    7    New York
Irine Olsen    Daughter    Female    5    New York

 

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ1P-F75 : accessed 21 May 2019), Josephine Olsen, Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York, United States; citing ED 1509, sheet 7A, line 42, family 165, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1227; FHL microfilm 1,821,227.

 

Her med lenker: 

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Josephine Olsen
Head
Female
47
Norway
Son
Male
26
Norway
Daughter
Female
24
Norway
Son
Male
14
Norway
Son
Male
8
New York
Son
Male
7
New York
Daughter
Female
5
New York

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Anne M. Berge

Ekteskap mellom Vera og Oscar Farmier 

 

Vera Tyson

 in the New York, New York, Marriage License Indexes, 1907-2018

 
Name: Vera Tyson
Gender: Female
Marriage License Date: 22 Apr 1936
Marriage License Place: Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA
Spouse: Oscar Farmier
License Number: 8156

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Anne M. Berge

Jeg har ikke funnet noe om at Vera skiller seg fra Oscar og hva som er situasjonen i 1943 når Sheila blir født, men Oscar er i hvert fall soldat under krigen: 

 

Name:    Oscar Farmer
Gender:    Male
Birth Date:    19 Apr 1914
Death Date:    11 Aug 1984
SSN:    132095118
Branch 1:    ARMY
Enlistment Date 1:    29 Jul 1944
Release Date 1:    14 Jan 1946


Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

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Åsbjørg Susort

Er det "Gullovna" som er det russiske innslaget da?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037045173101

Bosted by: 0011 Hesselbergs gade 15

Leilighet: 15

Person: 004 Lilly Karense Gullovna Arnesen

 
Permanent ID: pf01037045173101

 


               
001 Karl Antonius Arnesen 15 1871 Kristiania b hf g Intet (Hjelp af Fattigv.)
002 Josefine Karense Arnesen 15 1872 Vivestad S. b hm g Husgjerning
003 Kristian Marinius Arnesen 15 1893 Kristiania b s ug -
004 Lilly Karense Gullovna Arnesen 15 1895 Kristiania b d ug -

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Lilli/Lillian med moren Josefine og stefar Fritz Olsen i 1910

 

1910 census fra Ancestry.com

 

Name:Josephine E Olsen

Age in 1910:37

Birth Year:abt 1873

Birthplace:Norway

Home in 1910:Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New YorkStreet:West 144 Street

Race:White

Gender:Female

Immigration Year:1909

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Marital status:Married

Spouse's name:Fritz W Olsen

Father's Birthplace:Norway

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

Native Tongue:Norwegian

Able to Read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Years Married:1

Number of Children Born:2

Number of Children Living:2

Neighbors:View others on page

 

Household Members:

Name Age
Fritz W Olsen 33
Josephine E Olsen 37
Fritz W Olsen 5
Kristina M Arnisen 16
Lillian K Arnesen 15

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Elin Galtung Lihaug
Posted (edited)

Det er helt utrolig at du har klart å finne alt dette, Anne!

 

Da er det altså noe norsk der likevel - oldemoren fra Sagene ... og da kan vi endre "halvt norsk" til en åttendedel norsk.

Edited by Elin Galtung Lihaug

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Anne M. Berge

Lilli Karenses dåp, nr 38: 

Oslo fylke, Sagene i Oslo, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1894-1904), Fødte og døpte 1895, Side 29
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060213070735
 

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Karl og Josefine gift

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000000817162

 

             
1 brudgom Karl Antonius Arnes. Farveriarbeider 1871 Kristiania Vogts Gd. 19
2 brur Josefine Karense Andreasd.   1872 Næs Romerike  
3 brudgommens far Ole Andreas Arnes. Fabrikarb.      
4 brur far Andreas Martinius Samuels. Smed      
5 trulovar Lars Ols.       Søbergsgd. 5
6 trulovar Vilhelm Hans.       Bentsegd. 3

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Ingvild Godager

Beundringsverdig hvor flinke dere er!

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Åsbjørg Susort
41 minutter siden, Åsbjørg Susort skrev:

Er det "Gullovna" som er det russiske innslaget da?

Fikk 706 treff på universalsøk på digitalarkivet, så det var visst ikkje så veldig russisk 😯 😊

(Bare 18 treff på Åsbjørg der 6 av dei var stedsnavn/etternavn. Eg er visst ikkje den rette til å kommentere opphav til navn 🙄 )

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1 minutt siden, Åsbjørg Susort skrev:

Fikk 706 treff på universalsøk på digitalarkivet, så det var visst ikkje så veldig russisk 😯 😊

(Bare 18 treff på Åsbjørg der 6 av dei var stedsnavn/etternavn. Eg er visst ikkje den rette til å kommentere opphav til navn 🙄 )

Haha, Åsbjørg; vi har vel i alle fall erfart at Durek har en svært omtrentlig omgang med fakta om sin bakgrunn. 😜 

 

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Elin Galtung Lihaug
Posted (edited)

Her er Dureks morfars mormor - Josefine Karense Andreasdatter - og hennes mor og mormor i 1875-tellingen for Ramnes i Vestfold:

  • Tellingsår: 1875
  • Kommune: Ramnes
  • Kommunenummer: 0718
  • Navn på bosted: Wivestadeie

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 5. Trykk på tidslinje.gif for å se på tidslinjen for personen.


  Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested  
  Karen Sofie Andersdatter Kone e Inderst Arbeider 1817 Sande P  
  Peder Kristian Johansen Søn ug Arbeider 1851 Laurdal  
  Kristine Martine Johansdatter Datter ug Arbeiderske 1848 Laurdal  
  Josefine Karentse Andreasdatter Barn   Fattiglem 1872 Vivestad R  
  Julie Kristiane Johansdatter Barn   Fattiglem 1864 Vivestad R

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0718&kenr=005&bnr=0070&lnr=00

Edited by Elin Galtung Lihaug

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Anne M. Berge

Litt snacks:  

 

Josefine Karense Andreasdatters far i Botsfengselet - han er altså Dureks tipptippoldefar:

Oslo fylke, Fangeprotokoll nr. 6 (1858-1860), Protokollside, Side 40
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/db10101603040044
 

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Stine H Kvistad

Ekteskap 2 for Josefine - 1909. 

 

Han har også referanse til Sagene

    
Name:    Frits Waldemar Ferdinand Olsen
  
Spouse's Name:    Josefine Karenn Andreasen Arnesen
Spouse's Birth Date:    
Spouse's Birthplace:    
Spouse's Age:    
Event Date:    10 Apr 1909
Event Place:    Manhattan, New York, New York
Father's Name:    Carl Olsen
Mother's Name:    Clara Kristoffersen
Spouse's Father's Name:    Andreas Samuelsen
Spouse's Mother's Name:    Martine Johansen

 

 

Som far

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000011166319

 

Konf

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/279/pk00000000033784

 

 

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Lillis bror Kristian Marinus Arnesen skiftet navn til Gunwald M Olsen. Gift m en Carrie

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Agunwald~ %2Bsurname%3Aolsen~ %2Bbirth_place%3Anorway~

 

Name Gunwald Marinus Olsen
Event Type Passport Application
Event Date 1920
Gender Male
Birth Date 07 Dec 1888
Spouse's Name Carrie Olsen
Certificate Number 103813

 

 

1940, i Queens- uten barn

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MB-MSQ2?i=26&cc=2000219

 

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Anne M. Berge

Så det nærmeste vi kommer Fredrikstad er tipptippoldefaren: 

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I fattigvesenets protokoll over utsatte beskrives Andreas Martinus som en flink men drikkfeldig smed, samt at han var rømt og skulle befinne seg i Fredrikshald, hvor man da også finner ham i 1865 som losjerende smedsvenn.

Fra Slektshistoriewiki NSF se lenke i #122

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