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Frank H. Johansen

Min tipp-oldefars brødre og fettere reiste fra Vardal til Amerika på slutten av 1800-tallet. Men de hadde ganske anonyme navn og er vanskelig å finne igjen i Amerikanske kilder.

 

Kristian Olsen, f. 14.03.1864 på Øverås-eiet i Vardal, emigrerte til Brandon, Minnesota 14. mai 1885 fra Kristiania havn. ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000014528 )

Hans bror, Mathias Olsen, f. 23.03.1866 på Øverås-eiet, reiste sammen med ham til samme destinasjon, samme dag ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000014529 )

 

Deres fetter Kristian Petersen, f. 22.08.1851 på Kjelsrud, Neråsen i Vardal, hadde resit 23. august 1878 til La Crosse, Wisconsin ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000921769 ), og hans bror

Mathias Petersen, f. 27.11.1853 på Askimengen i Vardal, emigrerte 30. mars 1881 til La Crosse ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000943827 )

 

Men når man søker etter "Christian Petersen" eller "Mathias/Mathew Olson" i Amerikanske kilder, får man opp rimelig mange treff selv om man tar med omtrentlig fødselsår og opphavsland = Norge.

 

Er det noen som har noen gode tips til å snevre inn søket?

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1 time siden, Frank H. Johansen skrev:

Min tipp-oldefars brødre og fettere reiste fra Vardal til Amerika på slutten av 1800-tallet. Men de hadde ganske anonyme navn og er vanskelig å finne igjen i Amerikanske kilder.

 

Kristian Olsen, f. 14.03.1864 på Øverås-eiet i Vardal, emigrerte til Brandon, Minnesota 14. mai 1885 fra Kristiania havn. ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000014528 )

Hans bror, Mathias Olsen, f. 23.03.1866 på Øverås-eiet, reiste sammen med ham til samme destinasjon, samme dag ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000014529 )

 

Deres fetter Kristian Petersen, f. 22.08.1851 på Kjelsrud, Neråsen i Vardal, hadde resit 23. august 1878 til La Crosse, Wisconsin ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000921769 ), og hans bror

Mathias Petersen, f. 27.11.1853 på Askimengen i Vardal, emigrerte 30. mars 1881 til La Crosse ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000943827 )

 

Men når man søker etter "Christian Petersen" eller "Mathias/Mathew Olson" i Amerikanske kilder, får man opp rimelig mange treff selv om man tar med omtrentlig fødselsår og opphavsland = Norge.

 

Er det noen som har noen gode tips til å snevre inn søket?

 

Tips! 

 

"Søkehjelp:Fire anonyme fettere fra Vardal til Amerika" forteller intet om hvem du søker. 

 

Legg navn,fødselsår og fødested i tematittelen. 

Det er plass til mye tekst i en tematittel. 

 

 

Edited by Ann-Mary Engum

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Emigrasjonen til Kristian Olsen og broren Mathias Olsen var i 1884,ikke 1885!

 

Mathias og broren Kristian? 

Mathias Olsen

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891

Name: Mathias Olsen
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1884
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Ship Name: Hekla

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSJ-YJ35

 

View the original document

 

Skade på listen! 

Her ser man kun "an Olsen" på han som står ført ovenfor  "Mathias Olsen"

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5T4N-B?cc=1849782&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQVSJ-YJ35

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og hans bror

Mathias Petersen, f. 27.11.1853 på Askimengen i Vardal, emigrerte 30. mars 1881 til La Crosse ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000943827 )" 

 

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Mathias Pederson

United States Census, 1900

Name: Mathias Pederson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Sioux Agency Township, Yellow Medicine, Minnesota, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Years Married: 8
Birth Date: Nov 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1892
Immigration Year: 1881
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Mathias Pederson
Head
Male
47
Norway
Wife
Female
51
Norway
Daughter
Female
21
Norway
Daughter
Female
16
Wisconsin
Daughter
Female
7
Minnesota

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9QZ-C76

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LKC-HC2?cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AM9QZ-C76

 

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Mathias Peterson

Minnesota State Census, 1895

Name: Mathias Peterson
Event Place: Sioux Agency, Yellow Medicine, Minnesota
Age: 42y
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Race (Original): W
Gender: Male

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Mathias Peterson
 
Male
42y
Norway
 
Female
45y
Norway
 
Female
15y
Norway
 
Female
10y
Wis
 
Male
1y
Minn

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQDH-H4N

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XTJ-MP?personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMQDH-H4N

 

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Mathias Peterson

Minnesota State Census, 1905

Name: Mathias Peterson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1905, 1905
Event Place: Sioux Agency township, Yellow Medicine, Minnesota
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPQV-2N9

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YST7-N2Y?personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASPQV-2N9

 

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Deceased
Name: Mathias Peterson
Event Type: Obituary
Event Date: 1921
Event Place: Minnesota, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 67
Relationship to Deceased: Deceased
Birth Date: 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Death Date: 06 Aug 1921

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WK-1B67

 

View the original document.

"1881 to Am." 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99K7-36B?cc=2469546&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2WK-1B67

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Gisle Hersvik
16 minutes ago, Ann-Mary Engum said:

 

Deceased
Name: Mathias Peterson
Event Type: Obituary
Event Date: 1921
Event Place: Minnesota, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 67
Relationship to Deceased: Deceased
Birth Date: 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Death Date: 06 Aug 1921

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WK-1B67

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99K7-36B?cc=2469546&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2WK-1B67

 

 

Find a grave; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/54563265

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Gisle Hersvik

Dei to eldste barna til Mathias Peterson ovenfor var fødd før han gifta seg med Bertha/Betsey. Og den eldste (Marie) var fødd i Norge. Stemmer det med den info du har Frank?

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Er dette noko som virker kjent? Finner fleire familitre med desse folka...
 

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Mathias Peterson

Birth 27 November 1853 Hund Parish, Vardal District, Oppland, Norway

Death 6 Aug 1921  Lac Qui Parle, Minnesota

 

 

Family Info

 

Father Petter Nielsen Slaaten (1824-1892)

Mother Gunild Maria Kristiansdatter (1825-1886)

 

Spouse Idiana Jacobsdatter Schjenken (1857-1887)
Married 1879 

Children

Marie (1879-1959) 

Alma (1884-1969) 

Joseph (1886-1887) 

 

Spouse Betsey (Brita) Davidson (1849-1935)
Married 1892 

Children

Alma (1884-1969) 

Petra Dorthea (1893-1982) 

 

Broen hans er det mindre info om i dette treet:

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Christian Peterson

Birth 22 AUG 1851

Death Unknown

 

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5 minutter siden, Gisle Hersvik skrev:

Er dette noko som virker kjent? Finner fleire familitre med desse folka...
 

 

Broen hans er det mindre info om i dette treet:

 

 

Fra innlegg 1

"Mathias Petersen, f. 27.11.1853 på Askimengen i Vardal, emigrerte 30. mars 1881 til La Crosse ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000943827 )"

 

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Dåpen til Mathias. 

Nr 117

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8948/125

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Frank H. Johansen

Mange takk til Ann-Mary og  Gisle! Dette ser jo veldig riktig ut for Mathias Petersen i hvert fall! Jeg skal sette meg ned og systematisere litt 🙂

 

 

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"Deres fetter Kristian Petersen, f. 22.08.1851 på Kjelsrud, Neråsen i Vardal, hadde resit 23. august 1878 til La Crosse, Wisconsinhttps://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000921769 ) 

 

Du har skrevet feil emigrasjonsår! 

Han emigrerte i 1872!

 

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Er denne sjekket ut? 

 

 

Christ Pederson

United States Census, 1880

Name: Christ Pederson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: La Crosse, La Crosse, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W
Occupation: Clerk In Store
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 548
Person Number: 0
Volume: 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Christ Pederson
Self
Male
29
Norway
Wife
Female
30
Norway
Daughter
Female
5
Wisconsin, United States
Son
Male
1
Wisconsin, United States

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN4T-LRW

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBX-4KZ?cc=1417683&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMN4T-LRW

 

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Bella Constance Peterson

Wisconsin, Death Records, 1867-1907

Name: Bella Constance Peterson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 1898
Event Place: La Crosse, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Father's Name: Christian Peterson
Mother's Name: Malla Peterson

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLNZ-MPL

 

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Christian Peterson

United States Census, 1900

Name: Christian Peterson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: La Crosse city Ward 17, La Crosse, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 50
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W

 

Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Years Married: 27
Birth Date: Nov 1850
Birthplace: Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1873
Immigration Year: 1870
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Christian Peterson
Head
Male
50
Norway
Wife
Female
51
Norway
Son
Male
18
Wisconsin
Son
Male
15
Wisconsin
Son
Male
13
Wisconsin
Daughter
Female
8

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVH-G28

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QJ9-G6V?cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMMVH-G28

 

 

Edited by Ann-Mary Engum

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Frank H. Johansen
Ja, dette virker kjent - her er vielsen til Mathias og Indiane i 1879 - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000001926281
Men kone og datter reiste tydeligvis ikke samtidig som Mathias.
 
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Mathias Peterson

Birth 27 November 1853 Hund Parish, Vardal District, Oppland, Norway

Death 6 Aug 1921  Lac Qui Parle, Minnesota

 

 

Family Info

 

Father Petter Nielsen Slaaten (1824-1892)

Mother Gunild Maria Kristiansdatter (1825-1886)

 

Spouse Idiana Jacobsdatter Schjenken (1857-1887)
Married 1879 

Children

Marie (1879-1959) 

Alma (1884-1969) 

Joseph (1886-1887) 

 

Spouse Betsey (Brita) Davidson (1849-1935)
Married 1892 

Children

Alma (1884-1969) 

Petra Dorthea (1893-1982) 

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Frank H. Johansen
2 minutter siden, Frank H. Johansen skrev:
Ja, dette virker kjent - her er vielsen til Mathias og Indiane i 1879 - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000001926281
Men kone og datter reiste tydeligvis ikke samtidig som Mathias.

 

Indiane og Marie reiste 09.09.1881 - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000000955724 og https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000000955725

 

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Frank H. Johansen
14 minutter siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

 

"Deres fetter Kristian Petersen, f. 22.08.1851 på Kjelsrud, Neråsen i Vardal, hadde resit 23. august 1878 til La Crosse, Wisconsinhttps://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000921769 ) 

 

Du har skrevet feil emigrasjonsår! 

Han emigrerte i 1872!

 

 

Beklager - en rotete tastefeil fra min side - har 1872 i basen min!

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25 minutes ago, Ann-Mary Engum said:

Er denne sjekket ut? 

 

Christ Pederson

United States Census, 1880

Name: Christ Pederson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: La Crosse, La Crosse, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W
Occupation: Clerk In Store
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851

 

Lurer på om dette er han; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102449364/christian-pederson - fødselsdato stemmer ikkje med innlegg #1.

Og kona (Malla); https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102449404/malla-pederson

Og ei dotter; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102449316/bella-c-pederson ?

Og ein son; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102449648/philip-c-pederson ?

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Frank H. Johansen
14 minutter siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

 

Er denne sjekket ut? 

 

Christ Pederson

United States Census, 1880

Name: Christ Pederson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: La Crosse, La Crosse, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: W
Occupation: Clerk In Store
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 548
Person Number: 0
Volume: 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Christ Pederson
Self
Male
29
Norway
Wife
Female
30
Norway
Daughter
Female
5
Wisconsin, United States
Son
Male
1
Wisconsin, United States

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN4T-LRW

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBX-4KZ?cc=1417683&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMN4T-LRW

 

 

Takker! Skal granske denne nærmere!

 

Ser ut som datter Bella døde i 1898 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLNZ-MPL og 

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Har lagt inn flere opplysninger i innlegg 12.

Men det er nok feil mann. Fødselsmåned stemmer ikke. 

Edited by Ann-Mary Engum

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10 minutter siden, Gisle Hersvik skrev:

 

Kristian Peterson i innlegg 12 er feil mann, tror jeg.

Han står som født i nov 1851 i telling 1900.

Trådstarter sin mann var født i aug 1851

 

"Deres fetter Kristian Petersen, f. 22.08.1851 på Kjelsrud, Neråsen i Vardal, hadde resit 23. august 1878 til La Crosse, Wisconsin ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000921769 )"

Edited by Ann-Mary Engum

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39 minutes ago, Ann-Mary Engum said:
Wisconsin
Son
Male
13

 

Og denne; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/2921619 ? Christian Magnus...

 

 

Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952

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Name: Christian M Pederson
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Crosse, Wisconsin
Marriage Date: 22 Jun 1923
Marriage Place: Bessemer, Michigan, USA
Residence Place: Duluth, Minnesota
Father: Christian Peders??
Mother: Malla Peders??
Spouse: Jane Cecilia Stitt
Record Number: 9494

 

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Kristian eller Christian's dåp i 1851 -  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000008895464

 

Foreldre: Peter Nielsen og Maria Christiansdr.

 

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name:    Kristian Petersen
Gender:    Male
Record Type:    Marriage
Marriage Date:    15 Jul 1878
Marriage Place:    Vernon, Wisconsin, USA
Father:    Peter Nilsen
Mother:    Maria Kristiandsdr

Spouse:    Karen Evensen
Church Name:    North La Crosse Lutheran Church
Church Location:    La Crosse, Wisconsin

1878 Vielse.jpg

 

 

The 1900 United States Federal Census  -  Lenke FS: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVH-J8L
Name:    Chris Peterson
Age:    47
Birth Date:    Aug 1852  -  rett f. måned , 1 år avvik f. år.
Birthplace:    Norway
Home in 1900:    La Crosse Ward 10, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Ward of City:    La Crosse
Street:    Berlin
House Number:    1603
Sheet Number:    3
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation:    62
Family Number:    71
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Immigration Year:    1870
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Marital status:    Married
Spouse's name:    Carry Peterson
Marriage Year:    1878
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Years in US:    30
Months Not Employed:    0
Can Read:    Yes
Can Write:    Yes
Can Speak English:    Yes
House Owned or Rented:    O
Home Free or Mortgaged:    M
Farm or House:    H
Household Members:    
Chris Peterson    47
Carry Peterson    40
Millie Peterson    17
Chester Peterson 15

Edited by Egil Johannessen

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The Washington, Marriage Records, 1854-2013  -  Lenke FShttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP99-552H
Name:    Chester M Peterson
Birth Place:    Wisconsin, USA
Marriage Date:    2 Mar 1913
Marriage Place:    Everett, Snohomish, Washington, USA
Father:    Chris Peterson
Mother:    Carrie Peterson
Spouse:    Mary J Hudecheck

 

The Washington, Marriage Records, 1854-2013  -  Lenke FShttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP9S-7Q85
Name:    Chester M Peterson
Marriage Date:    2 Mar 1913
Marriage Place:    Everett, Snohomish, Washington, USA
Date Recorded:    31 Mar 1913
Spouse:    Mary J Hudicheck

 

United States Census, 1930  -  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCSQ-6ZV
Name: Chester M Peterson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Portland (Districts 271-553), Multnomah, Oregon, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 6
Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Chester M Peterson    Head    M    45    Wisconsin
Mary J Peterson    Wife    F    45    Wisconsin

 

The California, Death Index, 1940-1997  -  Lenke FShttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPK9-HDT
Name:    Chester Mermont Peterson
Social Security #:    541071726
Gender:    Male
Birth Date:    7 Aug 1884
Birth Place:    Wisconsin
Death Date:    21 Feb 1948
Death Place:    San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name: Evanson
Father's Surname: Peterson

 

The U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name:    Chester M Peterson
Birth Date:    7 Aug 1884
Death Date:    21 Feb 1948
Claim Date:    8 Mar 1948
SSN:    541071726
Notes:    19 Jan 1978: Name listed as CHESTER M PETERSON

 

The U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current  -  Lenke FAG: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/64517433
Name:    Chester Mermont Peterson
Birth Date:    7 Aug 1884
Death Date:    21 Feb 1948
Cemetery:    Lone Fir Pioneer Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:    Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, United States of America
Has Bio?:    N

 

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På samme gravsted står også faren Chris nevnt (død 1902)  -  Lenke FAG: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/64516824

Chris Peterson
BIRTH    1852
DEATH    Sep 1902 (aged 49–50)
BURIAL    
Lone Fir Pioneer Cemetery
Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, USA
PLOT    Sec 38, Lot 46, Grave 2S

Edited by Egil Johannessen

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