Help Finding Records (Ole Eriksen Strom)

[Lucas Woods]

I google translated to Norwegian below this text... I hope it helps for anyone who cannot read English. The translate from Norwegian to English seems to work decently.

 

Hello!

 

I am very glad that I have found this forum during my research of the Norwegian Archives. I am having a lot of trouble finding records, where to look and trouble finding records due to my language barrier. I am looking for any help finding ANY records pertaining to the below individual.

 

I am very sorry if I do not spell the cities, parishes, etc correctly. I will try my best.

 

Name: Ole Eriksen Strom

Birth: 23 February 1863

Birth Place: Trondheim, Sor-Trondelag, Norway

Emigrated: I believe he left Norway for the United States sometime before 1899 (he had a daughter in 1899 in North Dakota, USA)

Brothers: Liver and Lars

Sisters: Tina and Minnie (Minnie and Ole were twins, from what was passed down by the family)

Other Information: Minnie and Liver died when they were young (I am assuming when still in Norway), Tina had a big family but I have no idea if she ever emigrated to USA or stayed in Norway.

 

 

eg googlet oversatt til norsk under denne teksten ... Jeg håper det hjelper for alle som ikke kan lese engelsk. Oversettelsen fra norsk til engelsk ser ut til å fungere anstendig.

Hallo!

Jeg er veldig glad for at jeg har funnet dette forumet under forskningen min om Norsk arkiv. Jeg har mye problemer med å finne poster, hvor jeg skal se og problemer med å finne poster på grunn av språkbarrieren min. Jeg leter etter noen hjelp til å finne noen oppføringer som gjelder personen nedenfor.

Jeg beklager veldig hvis jeg ikke stave byer, menigheter osv. Riktig. Jeg vil prøve mitt beste.

Navn: Ole Eriksen Strøm
Fødsel: 23. februar 1863
Fødested: Trondheim, Sor-Trøndelag, Norge
Emigrert: Jeg tror at han forlot Norge til USA en gang før 1899 (han hadde en datter i 1899 i Nord-Dakota, USA)
Brødre: Lever og Lars
Søstre: Tina og Minnie (Minnie og Ole var tvillinger, fra det som ble gitt videre av familien)
Annen informasjon: Minnie og Liver døde da de var små (jeg antar at de fortsatt var i Norge), Tina hadde en stor familie, men jeg aner ikke om hun noen gang emigrerte til USA eller bodde i Norge.

 

 

 

 

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Maybe this Ole?
 

Name: Ole
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 6 Mar 1863
Event Place: Leikanger, Nordre Bergenhus, Norway
Event Place (Original): Leikanger, Sogn Og Fjordane, Norway
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1863
Father's Name: Erik Kjelsen. (I’ll add the farm: Fosse)
Mother's Name: Kathrine Anfindsdr (Njøs)

GS Film Number: 278147
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42302-4
System Origin: ODM
 

Citing this Record
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927", database, FamilySearch ( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH2C-8BH : 23 June 2020), Kathrine Anfindsdr in entry for Ole, 1863. 

 

The christening in the church book:

Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Leikanger, Feios (Rinde), Fresvik i Leikanger, Ministerialbok nr. A 8 (1852-1868), Fødte og døpte 1863, Side 63
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050817010452

(Nr. 11)
 

He is born out of wedlock.

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

His confirmation May 5 1878:

 

Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Leikanger, Feios (Rinde), Fresvik i Leikanger, Ministerialbok nr. A 9 (1869-1888), Konfirmerte 1878, Side 119
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070115340063

(Nr. 11)
 

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Ole (Olav) and his mother in 1875:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052302000139

 

His mother, Kathrine Anfindsdr at Njøs farm in 1865:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038255000151

 

The christening of Katarina Anfindsdtr Njøs b. October 29 1837:

 

Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Leikanger, Fjærland (Mundal), Tjugum, Vangsnes, Fresvik, Feios (Rinde) i Leikanger, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1810-1838), Fødte og døpte 1837, Side 225
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070511630684

(Nr. 125)
 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Ole’s emigration 1882-04-25

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000667266

 

All persons leaving the same day:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/search/3/100017?fornavn=&etternavn=&kjonn=&bosted=&fodestad=&fodselsdato=&fodselsaar=&alder=&stilling_stand=&familiestilling=&aar=&utreisedato=1882-04-25&reisemal=&ankomstdato=&linje=&skip=&agent=&pass=&nytt_yrke=&aarsak=&utreisehavn=&ekspdato=&kontraktdato=&herred=&fogderi=&prgjeld=

 

I think Ole was travelling with the person above on the list: Anfind Olsen Njøs.

 

(I have not yet found if they are related.)

 

Anfind’s christening:

Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Leikanger, Feios (Rinde), Fresvik i Leikanger, Ministerialbok nr. A 8 (1852-1868), Fødte og døpte 1866, Side 80
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050817010469

(Nr. 27)
 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Could you perhaps post links or copy of records to where you have found Ole Eriksen in USA?  

[Randi Elisabeth Haugros]

Find a grave:

Ole E. Strøm:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7828447

[Lucas Woods]

I will post some of the documents soon. I just woke up and need to get the kids breakfast and i need some coffee!

 

I will search and see if i can find the immigration records for him entering America now that i have a better date range.

[Anton Hagelee]

3 hours ago, Randi Elisabeth Haugros said:

Find a grave:

Ole E. Strøm:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7828447

 

 

Wife of Ole E Strom from North Dakota.

 

Kjerste Strom

 in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Kjerste Strom

Birth Date:1870

Birth Place:Norway

Death Date:1940

Death Place:White Earth, Mountrail County, North Dakota, United States of America

Cemetery:Wild Rose Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Berthold, Ward County, North Dakota, United States of America

Has Bio?:Y

Spouse:Ole E Strom

Children:Clara Olivia Armstrong 
Thora Sikes 
Lottie Ball 
Gundrun Mary Anderson

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7828446

 

Clara Strom Armstrong

 in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Name:Clara Strom Armstrong
[Clara O Armstrong] 
[Clara Strom Strom] 

Gender:Female

Race:White

Birth Date:19 Oct 1901

Birth Place:Hillsboro Tr, North Dakota

Death Date:18 Jul 1997

Father:Ole E Strom

Mother:Kjerst Sveen

SSN:501106192

Signature on SSN Card:W L Armstrong

Relationship of Signature:Signature name differs from NH’s name.

Notes:Feb 1937: Name listed as CLARA STROM ARMSTRONG; 08 Aug 1997: Name listed as CLARA O ARMSTRONG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

49 minutes ago, Lucas Woods said:

I will post some of the documents soon. I just woke up and need to get the kids breakfast and i need some coffee!

 

I will search and see if i can find the immigration records for him entering America now that i have a better date range.

 

It would be really useful if you would confirm that the Ole E Strom that Randi found from North Dakota is the same Ole E Strom that you are seeking.

 

Since the Ole E Strom of North Dakota died in 1908, this is the family in the 1910 Census. 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLG1-44H

 

 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anton Hagelee

[Lucas Woods]

1 hour ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

It would be really useful if you would confirm that the Ole E Strom that Randi found from North Dakota is the same Ole E Strom that you are seeking.

 

Since the Ole E Strom of North Dakota died in 1908, this is the family in the 1910 Census. 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLG1-44H

 

 

 

Yes, the Ole E. Strom that others found on Find a Grave is the one I am searching for more information for. As well as his wife who was from Norway. I am getting ready to make a post with some more info on them both.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

The link from FamilySearch that Anton Hagelee posted, shows Kjersti Sveen’s birth place to be Øyer in Gudbrandsdalen.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MXGB-7LH

 

Here is her christening in Øyer:

Oppland fylke, Øyer, Tretten i Øyer, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1858-1874), Fødte og døpte 1869, Side 92
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131640300

(Nr. 40)
 

She is born May 16 1869. Parents are Ole Amundsen and Goro Olsdatter Mortensveen.

[Anton Hagelee]

And her arrival in 1896. 

 

Kjersti O Sveen

 in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name:Kjersti O Sveen

Arrival Date:19 Jun 1896

Birth Date:abt 1868

Age:28

Gender:Female

Ethnicity/ Nationality:Norwegian

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Port of Arrival:New York, New York, USA

Ship Name:Britannic

 

travelling to Hillsboro North Dakota. Probably her sister Ragnhild?

 

 

 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anton Hagelee

[Lucas Woods]

I am not sure if the Ole you have found is the one i am trying to find. What may help is that he did have a twin sister named Minnie, she died when she was young though ( i am not sure how young).

 

 

 

[Lucas Woods]

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2997/images/40610_B000211-00122?pId=37071885&backurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.com%2Ffamily-tree%2Fperson%2Ftree%2F158395849%2Fperson%2F252075075081%2Ffacts%2Fcitation%2F802217459646%2Fedit%2Frecord

 

Record of Krjersti O. Sveen (B. 1868) and Ragnhild Sveen (B. 1878) leaving Liverpool

 

Departed Liverpool on 10 June 1896

Arrival June 19th 1896 (with Ragnhild, i think this must be her younger brother)

[Anton Hagelee]

Now the death notice you just posted is for the daughter of Ole and Kjersti I believe. 

 

According to the family history found on Ancestry.com Ole and Kjersti were married in 1899 in Hillsboro. 

 

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

11 minutter siden, Lucas Woods skrev:

I am not sure if the Ole you have found is the one i am trying to find. What may help is that he did have a twin sister named Minnie, she died when she was young though ( i am not sure how young).

 

I am equally unsure about whether the Ole I have found is correct.

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anton Hagelee]

6 minutes ago, Lucas Woods said:

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2997/images/40610_B000211-00122?pId=37071885&backurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.com%2Ffamily-tree%2Fperson%2Ftree%2F158395849%2Fperson%2F252075075081%2Ffacts%2Fcitation%2F802217459646%2Fedit%2Frecord

 

Record of Krjersti O. Sveen (B. 1868) and Ragnhild Sveen (B. 1878) leaving Liverpool

 

Departed Liverpool on 10 June 1896

Arrival June 19th 1896 (with Ragnhild, i think this must be her younger brother)

 

 

According to the Family History the younger brother was Mathis. Ragnhild is a female name. 

 

Ragnhild Sveen

 in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name:Ragnhild Sveen 

Arrival Date:19 Jun 1896

Birth Date:abt 1878

Age:18

Gender:Female

Ethnicity/ Nationality:Norwegian

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Port of Arrival:New York, New York, USA

Ship Name:Britannic

 

 

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anton Hagelee

[Lucas Woods]

I have been able to track Kjerste Sveen just fine in the US and Ole (he does not have many records i have found, still trying to find a census of him in the United States).

 

I am trying to find how i came to the conclusion that Eriksen was his Ole's middle name. It has been awhile since i researched him and can't seem to find the record that had his Eriksen name.

 

Ole E. Strom is what is seen on almost all records.

[Lucas Woods]

1 minute ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

 

According to the Family History the younger brother was Mathis. Ragnhild is a female name. 

Thank you on the correction of the sex of Kjerste's sibling.

[Lucas Woods]

5 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

 

I am equally unsure about whether the Ole I have found is correct.

Maybe remove the Eriksen name? It is unverified. All the records i have show: Ole E. Strom

 

I think i put Eriksen after seeing another person's family tree, but some of their records i think may be wrong in that tree.

[Anton Hagelee]

I think Anne-Lise has tracked down the origins of Kjersti quite well but I would question the birth data for Ole. The guess of Eriksen is quite a logical guess but the only birth date I have found for him was the FAG record. I did notice in some of the various family tree's on Ancestry that they have given him a birth date of Feb 23, 1862 and not Feb 23, 1863. Do you have an independent birth date for him or are you using the FAG date as well?

Endret Juli 25, 2020 av Anton Hagelee

[Lucas Woods]

3 minutes ago, Anton Hagelee said:

I think Anne-Lise has tracked down the origins of Kjersti quite well but I would question the birth data for Ole. The guess of Eriksen is quite a logical guess but the only birth date I have found for him was the FAG record. I did notice in some of the various family tree's on Ancestry that they have given him a birth date of Feb 23, 1862 and not Feb 23, 1863. Do you have an independent birth date for him or are you using the FAG date as well?

I think we will have to use both dates. On Find a Grave it shows 1863 but i have a document that was typed up by i believe one of their daughters as she was later in life. That document says Feb 23 1862.

 

[Lucas Woods]

I am hoping that finding an Ole E. Strom and Minnie Strom would be easier in the Norwegian records since they are twins (according to this record at least). So their Baptism certificates and birth dates should be recorded as the same i would assume.

[Lucas Woods]

32 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

The link from FamilySearch that Anton Hagelee posted, shows Kjersti Sveen’s birth place to be Øyer in Gudbrandsdalen.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MXGB-7LH

 

Here is her christening in Øyer:

Oppland fylke, Øyer, Tretten i Øyer, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1858-1874), Fødte og døpte 1869, Side 92
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131640300

(Nr. 40)
 

She is born May 16 1869. Parents are Ole Amundsen and Goro Olsdatter Mortensveen.

 

Is Ole the mother?

 

So is Kjersti's last name MortenSveen? or just Sveen?

 

I was reading that the middle name usually refers to the persons father? as in Eriksen (Son of Erik).