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Tre utfordringer: 1. Ole Knudsen Kaasen, kona Gunild Tarjeisdtr og datter Aasne reiser til USA i 1883. 2. Gunilds foreldre Tarjei Eriksen og Aasne Tjøstovsdtr. reiser samtidig. 3. Umulig spørsmål å finne svar på?: Augund Tjøstovsen, hvor ble det av han?


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Ragnhild Bendiksdtr. Thorsen har en bror som heter Jens Bendickson (f.13.07.1844 i Mo). Jens er gift med Margit Tarjeisdtr. (f.29.02.1852 i Vinje)

Tema på Brukerforum der Ragnhild dukker opphttps://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/253921-daniel-ingebrigtson-hagenæs-1824-1902-frå-luster-til-wisconsin-dødsfallet-til-kona-hans-opphav-til-ymse-svigerdøtrer-og-svigerson-lagnaden-til-sonen-john-hjelp/

 

Jens og Margit reiser til Amerika sammen med sønnen Amund (f. 28.03.1890 i Vinje) 

 

Familen i folketelling i Vinje 1891https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052854001260

 

Familien i United States Census 1920: 

Name: Marget Bendickson
Sex: Female
Age: 67
Date: 1920
Place: Dunn, Wisconsin, United States
Place (Original): Wisconsin, Dunn
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 6

 

Husstand Rolle Kjønn Alder Fødested
Jens Bendickson Head M 74 Norway
Marget Bendickson Wife F 67 Norway
Armund Bendickson Son M 27 Norway
Thom Bendickson Son M 26 Wisconsin

 

FAGhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87216632/marget-bendickson

 

Første utfordring:

Margit har en søster som heter Gunild Tarjeisdtr.(f.07.06.1854) Mannen til Gunild heter Ole Knudsen Kaasen (f. 28.08.1851). Datteren Aasne (25.08.1881)

Gunild, Ole og Aasne reiser til Amerika i 1883. Reiser de til samme område som søsteren Margit, eller hvor blir det av dem?

 

Gunilds dåp: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. I 4, 1843-1869, s. 68
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051005010071

 

Oles dåp: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. I 4, 1843-1869, s. 47
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051005010050

 

Aasnes dåphttps://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000013380493

 

Utflyttermelding fra Vinje i 1883: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. I 5, 1870-1886, s. 426
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060629070334

 

 

Andre utfordring:

Samtidig med Gunild, Ole og Aasne reiser Gunilds og Margits foreldre: Tarjei Eriksen (27.11.1821) og Aasne Tjøstovsdtr.(f.1810)

 

Tarjeis dåp: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000012503766

 

Aasnes dåp, viser ikke fødselsdato: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0002: Ministerialbok nr. I 2, 1767-1814, s. 14
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061214330219

 

Utflyttermedling i 1883: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. I 5, 1870-1886, s. 426
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060629070334

 

Er det mulig å finne ut hvor de reiste og når de døde?

 

Tredje utfordring: Umulig å løse?

Aasne Tjøstovsdtr. har en bror som heter Augund Tjøstovsen Paradis (f.31.08.1823) som reiste til Amerika i 1872. I utflyttermeldingen står det (slik jeg tolker det) at han først reiste til England i 1864 og så til Amerika i 1872. Jeg har ikke funnet noe om at han kommet tilbake til Vinje i mellom 1862 og 1872, ei heller etter denne tid. Hvor blei det av han?

Det er lett å tenke at navnet hans blir endret når han kommer til Usa. Hvis han beholder "Paradis" så er det kanskje litt håp om å kunne finne spor. Jeg er ikke så flink på søk i Usa, så jeg vil gjerne ha hjelp.   ....Tenk å reise fra et så fint sted som Paradis....

 

Augunds dåphttps://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000012503833

 

Utflyttermelding 1872: SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. I 5, 1870-1886, s. 417
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060629070325

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1 hour ago, Kristin Charlotte Taraldlien said:


Tredje utfordring: Umulig å løse?

Aasne Tjøstovsdtr. har en bror som heter Augund Tjøstovsen Paradis (f.31.08.1823) som reiste til Amerika i 1872. I utflyttermeldingen står det (slik jeg tolker det) at han først reiste til England i 1864 og så til Amerika i 1872. Jeg har ikke funnet noe om at han kommet tilbake til Vinje i mellom 1862 og 1872, ei heller etter denne tid.

 

 


Det står vel han flyttet til

«Til Moland og Skafse (i 1864)nu til Amerika.»

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39 minutter siden, Matthias Kolberg skrev:

Det står vel han flyttet til

«Til Moland og Skafse (i 1864)nu til Amerika.»

Takk! Da skal jeg se om jeg finner ut noe om hva han gjorde i Moland og Skafså.

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Kanskje Aasne er den som gifter seg her, kalt Annie, med Andrew Kittelsen

 

Name: Andrew Kittelsen
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Jun 1898
Event Place: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, United States
Event Place (Original): Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, United States
Sex: Male
Ethnicity: American
Race: W
Birth Date: 8 May 1879
Birthplace: Clear Lake, Polk, Wi
Father's Name: Bjorgorn Kittelsen
Mother's Name: Ingeborg Aslaksen
Spouse's Name: Annie Knudson
Spouse's Sex: Female
Spouse's Race: W
Spouse's Race (Original): W
Spouse's Birth Date: 25 Aug 1881
Spouse's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's Father's Name: Ole Knudson
Spouse's Mother's Name: Gunhild Knudson

Source Details: item 1 p 59
Source Reference: Item 1
GS Film Number: 1275495
Digital Folder Number: 007622431
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00346-5
System Origin: EASY
Record Number: 270
 

Citing this Record
"Wisconsin Marriages, 1836-1930", database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRGS-J8S

: 30 January 2020), Ole Knudson in entry for Andrew Kittelsen, 1898.

 

 

 

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Kanskje Aasne er den som gifter seg her, kalt Annie, med Andrew Kittelsen

 

Annie Kittelson

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Annie Kittelson

Birth Date:25 Aug 1881

Death Date:2 Mar 1966

Cemetery:Moe Lutheran Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/96063527/annie-kittelson

 

 

 

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Augund Marknie Knudson

 in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969

Name:Augund Marknie Knudson

Baptism Age:0

Record Type:Baptism 

Birth Date:8 Mar 1886

Baptism Date:2 May 1886

Baptism Place:Polk, Wisconsin, USA

Father:Olaf Knudson

Mother:Gunhild Thorgersdtr

Church Name:East Immanuel Lutheran Church

Church Location:Deer Park, Wisconsin

 

 

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i flere slektstre på Ancestry.com

 

Gunnil Thorgersdtr

1854–1890

BIRTH 1854 • Vinje Norway

DEATH 1890 • Marsh Lake Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Clayton, Polk County, Wisconsin,

 

Olaf Knutson

1851–1932

BIRTH 28 AUG 1851 • Vinje, Telemark, Norway

DEATH 1932 • Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, USA

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Andre kone til Olaf.

 

Margaret Olson

1861–1920

BIRTH OCT 1861 • Norway

DEATH 1920

 

Margaret Olson

 in the Wisconsin, U.S., Marriage Index, 1820-1907

Name:Margaret Olson

Marriage Date:3 Feb 1894

Marriage Place:Polk, Wisconsin, USA

Volume:01

Page:0410

 

 

 

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Gunild Tarjeisdtr.(f.07.06.1854) Mannen til Gunild heter Ole Knudsen Kaasen (f. 28.08.1851)

 

De fikk også en sønn Alfred 

 

Jeg har dødds certifikatet, men kan ikke laste det opp, har vel brukt opp kvoten min på opplasting, bare 28.13 kB igjen.

 

Name: Alfred H. Knutson
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 73
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1888
Birth Place: Blackbrook, Wisconsin
Death Date: 30 Mar 1962
Death Place: Polson, Lake, Montana, USA
Father: Olaf Knutson
Mother: Gunhild Knutson
Mother Maiden Name: Thor
Certificate Number: 62 240039

 

 

Her er gravstedet hans

Alfred H Knutson (1888-1962) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

Med lenker til kona og en datter.

 

Fra nekrologen hans:

 

Alfred Knutson Rites Scheduled POLSON Funeral services for Alfred H. Knutson, 72, will be Tuesday at 2 p.m. Good Shepherd Lutheran Church with the Rev. Robert Harrison officiating. Burial will be in Lakeview Cemetery. Mr. Knutson died Friday. He was born June 27, 1888, at Blackbrook, Wis. He married Mary Brown of Poison, April 26, 1923. He had lived in Poison for 32 years and worked primarily as a sawmill laborer. His wife died Nov. 23, 1962. Surviving are four sons, Albert J., Lilburn, Ronald and Clayton, all of Poison; two daughters, Mrs. Jerry Welker, Poison; Mrs. James Combs, Kelso, Wash.; three brothers, Martin and Ole, Clear Lakes, Wis.; Oscar, Minneapolis; two sis ters, Mrs. Annie Kittleson, Clear Lakes; Mrs. Clara Barks, South Range, Wis.; 15 grandchildren and several nieces and nephews.

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Datteren Anne  som Anton nevnte død ovenfor:

 

FT 1900

 

Name: Anna Kittles
Age: 18
Birth Date: Aug 1881
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Street: Clear Lake Township
Sheet Number: 11
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 204
Family Number: 204
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1883
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Andrew B Kittles
Marriage Year: 1898
Years Married: 2
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 1
Years in US: 16
Naturalization: Naturalized
Can Read: No
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Andrew B Kittles 21 Head
Anna Kittles 18 Wife
Emma Kittles 1 Daughter
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Name: Anna Kittleson
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Andrew Kittleson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 12
Number of Children Born: 6
Number of Children Living: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Andrew Kittleson 36 Head
Anna Kittleson 28 Wife
Gena Kittleson 10 Daughter
Emma Kittleson 9 Daughter
Benny Kittleson 4 Son
Alwezn Kittleson 2 Son
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FT1920:

Name: Annie Kittelson
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1883
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Andrew B Kittelson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Attended School: No
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Andrew B Kittelson 40 Head
Annie Kittelson 38 Wife
Emma Kittelson 17 Daughter
Bennie C Kittelson 14 Son
Alvin C Kittelson 11 Son
Odin T Kittelson 9 Son
Carl A Kittelson 6 Son
Harold E Kittelson 4 Son
Martin A Kittelson 3 Son
Arnold W Kittelson 0 Son
Alfred Knutson 31 Boarder
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FT1930:

Name: Anne Kittelson
Birth Year: abt 1882
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age in 1930: 48
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Map of Home: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Dwelling Number: 168
Family Number: 170
Age at First Marriage: 17
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1884
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members Age Relationship
Andrew Kittelson 50 Head
Anne Kittelson 48 Wife
Alvin Kittelson 21 Son
Carl Kittelson 17 Son
Herold Kittelson 15 Son
Martin Kittelson 13 Son
Arnold Kittelson 11 Son
Ethel Kittelson 8 Daughter
Agnes Kittelson 6 Daughter
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FT1940:

Name: Annie Kittelson
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Beaver, Polk, Wisconsin
Map of Home in 1940: Beaver, Polk, Wisconsin
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Polk, Wisconsin
Residence in 1935: Rural, Polk, Wisconsin
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 8B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 4th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Andrew Kittelson 60 Head
Annie Kittelson 58 Wife
Agnes Kittelson 16 Daughter
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Hun måtte ha bodd en periode i Oklahoma

 

in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014

 

Name: Annie Kittelson
Social Security Number: 447-38-9203
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1881
Issue Year: 1955-1956
Issue State: Oklahoma
Last Residence: 54005, Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Death Date: Mar 1966

 

Hennes gravsted:

 

Annie Kittelson (1881-1966) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

 

og vielses dato:

 

 in the Wisconsin, U.S., Marriage Index, 1820-1907

Name: Annie Knudson
Marriage Date: 25 Jun 1898
Marriage Place: Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Volume: 02
Page: 0086
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1 time siden, Oddgeir Fossli skrev:

men kan ikke laste det opp, har vel brukt opp kvoten min på opplasting, bare 28.13 kB igjen.

 

@Oddgeir Fossli Du kan slette vedlegg (under mine vedlegg)

 

mine vedlegg.png

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Ole ble vel gift på nytt etter den første konen døde:

 

Da er vel dette gravstedet hans:

U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current - Ancestry.com

 

Name: Olaf Knutson
Birth Date: 1851
Death Date: 1932
Cemetery: Moe Lutheran Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Margit Knutson
Children: Ole G Knutson

 

 

Og den nye konen:

Name: Margit Knutson
Birth Date: 1861
Death Date: 1920
Cemetery: Moe Lutheran Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Olaf Knutson
Children: Ole G Knutson

 

 

Hans 2 gfte:

 

Name: Margaret Olson
Marriage Date: 3 Feb 1894
Marriage Place: Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Volume: 01
Page: 0410

 

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FT1900:

 

Name: Ole Kanutsen
Age: 48
Birth Date: Dec 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Street: Clear Lake Township
Sheet Number: 11
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 209
Family Number: 209
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Kanutsen
Marriage Year: 1882
Years Married: 18
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 16
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
House Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: F
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Ole Kanutsen 48 Head
Mary Kanutsen 38 Wife
Carl Kanutsen 16 Son
Martin Kanutsen 14 Son
Alfred Kanutsen 11 Son
Ole Kanutsen 5 Son
Simon Kanutsen 3 Son
Lettie Kanutsen 1 Daughter
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FT1910:

Name: Ale Knuteson[Als Knuteson][Ole Knuteson]
Age in 1910: 58
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1900
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margarett Knuteson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: General Farm
Employer, Employee or Other: Own Account
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Farm or House: Farm
Naturalization Status: Papers
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Ale Knuteson 58 Head
Margarett Knuteson 48 Wife
Ole Knuteson 14 Son
Clara Knuteson 11 Daughter
Oscar Knuteson 9 Son
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FT1920:

Name: Ole Knutson[Ole Knutsen]
Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
House Number: Farm
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1883
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margit Knutson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: General Farm
Employment Field: Own Account
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted
Attended School: No
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Ole Knutson 68 Head
Margit Knutson 59 Wife
Ole G Knutson 25 Son
Oscar T Knutson 19 Son
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FT1930:

Name: Olif Knutson
Birth Year: abt 1852[abt 1862]
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age in 1930: 78[68]
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Map of Home: Clear Lake, Polk, Wisconsin
Dwelling Number: 130
Family Number: 132
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: Yes
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1884
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: General farm
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Employment: Yes
Household Members Age Relationship
Olif Knutson 78 Head
Ola G Knutson 33 Son
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Fødselen i USa med den første konen:

 

Name: Augund Marknie Knudson
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1886
Baptism Date: 2 May 1886
Baptism Place: Polk, Wisconsin, USA
Father: Olaf Knudson
Mother: Gunhild Thorgersdtr
Church Name: East Immanuel Lutheran Church
Church Location:

Deer Park, Wisconsin

 

 

Hans gravsted: (med lenke der til konen)

 

Martin Knutson (1886-1978) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

Name: Martin Knutson
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1886
Birth Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Death Date: 20 Jan 1978
Death Place: Amery, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Cemetery: Clear Lake Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Ella Maryette Knutson

 

 

Kona:

Ella Maryette Greene Knutson (1894-1970) - Find A Grave Memorial

Name: Ella Maryette Knutson
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1894
Birth Place: Waterville, Le Sueur County, Minnesota, United States of America
Death Date: 1970
Death Place: Amery, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Cemetery: Clear Lake Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Martin Knutson

 

 

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Son of Ole Knutson

 

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

 

 

Name: Carl Knutson
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1884
Birth Place: Wisconsin, United States of America
Death Date: 14 May 1904
Death Place: Delavan, Walworth County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Cemetery: Moe Lutheran Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Clear Lake, Polk County, Wisconsin, United States of America

 

 

Carl Knutson (1884-1904) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

 

 

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Her er dødssertifikatet fra Montana, for sønnen til Olaf og Gunhild.

 

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