Erik Engelbrektsson med familj till Norge 1870

[Per Leo Nilsson]

Hela familjen Erik Engelbrektsson flyttar till Norge 1870

Blev dom kvar och vad hände, är särskilt intresserad av

dottern Anna Charlotta? Bifogar länk på utflytt.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0039505_00090#?c=&m=&s=&cv=89&xywh=-389%2C1583%2C8084%2C3993

Hälsning Per Nilsson

[Anton Hagelee]

Erik Engebretsen

 

1875 FT 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052014004623

 

 

[Richard Johan Natvig]

7 timer siden, Per Leo Nilsson skrev:

dottern Anna Charlotta

konfirmasjon:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pk00000002154516

 

 

[Grethe Flood]

Nr. 19 - Anders Emil

Østfold fylke, Øymark i Aremark, Ministerialbok nr. II 4 (1878-1895), Konfirmerte 1881, Side 92
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5444/96

 

Dåpen til Emma Mathilde, 1872

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000013508143

Østfold fylke, Aremark, Øymark i Aremark, Ministerialbok nr. III 4 (1866-1877), Fødte og døpte 1872, Side 105-106
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5752/58

 

Karl Anton, 1874

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000013508898

Østfold fylke, Aremark, Øymark i Aremark, Ministerialbok nr. III 4 (1866-1877), Fødte og døpte 1874, Side 139-140
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5752/75

 

 

[Grethe Flood]

I 1879 finner jeg Anna Charlotta Engelbrektsdatter som utflytter fra Aremark til Kråkstad i (tidligere) Akershus fylke:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/291/pu00000000167427

Østfold fylke, Øymark i Aremark, Ministerialbok nr. II 4 (1878-1895), Utflyttede 1878-1880, Side 194
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5444/176

 

 

 

[Richard Johan Natvig]

I 1882 er familien, dvs. foreldra og dei tre yngste borna Emma, Karl og Nils, registrert som utflyttarar frå Aremark til Amerika:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pu00000000167534

SAO, Aremark prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. II 4, 1878-1895, s. 196
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060904030045
 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

25 minutes ago, Richard Johan Natvig said:

1882 er familien, dvs. foreldra og dei tre yngste borna Emma, Karl og Nils, registrert som utflyttarar frå Aremark til Amerika:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pu00000000167534

SAO, Aremark prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. II 4, 1878-1895, s. 196
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060904030045

 

Erick Englebrechtsen

in the 1900 United States Federal Census

Name:Erick Englebrechtsen

Age:66

Birth Date:Apr 1834

Birthplace:Sweden

Home in 1900:Trimbelle, Pierce, Wisconsin

House Number:10

Sheet Number:17

Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation:248

Family Number:249

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1882

Relation to Head of House:Head

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Mary A Englebrechtsen

Marriage Year:1867

Years Married:33

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Sweden

Years in US:18

Naturalization:Naturalized

Occupation:Farmer

Can Read:Yes

Can Write:Yes

Can Speak English:No

House Owned or Rented:Own

Home Free or Mortgaged:Mortgaged

Farm or House:F

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Erick Englebrechtsen66Head

Mary A Englebrechtsen66Wife

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM29-KW1

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 9, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Her er familien i 1910 FT.

 

Erick Englebrigtson

in the 1910 United States Federal Census

Name:Erick Englebrigtson

Age in 1910:76

Birth Date:1834[1834]

Birthplace:Sweden

Home in 1910:Hastings Ward 3, Dakota, Minnesota, USA

Street:Fourth St

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1871

Relation to Head of House:Father

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Mary A Englebrigtson

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Sweden

Native Tongue:Swedish

Naturalization Status:Naturalized

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Years Married:44

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Charles A Englebrigtson35Head

Amanda S Englebrigtson33Wife

Emery C Englebrigtson3Son

Mildred T Englebrigtson2Daughter

Evelyn L Englebrigtson0Daughter

Erick Englebrigtson76Father

Mary A Englebrigtson75Mother

Edward J Englebrigtson39Brother

 

Edward J må være Johan Edward og Charles A må være Karl Anton.

 

Står for Edward J fødested er Wisconsin, men det er galt

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 9, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Charles Anton Engelbrigtson

 in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name:Charles Anton Engelbrigtson

Race:White

Birth Date:11 Jun 1874

Residence Date:1917-1918

Residence Place:Dakota County, Minnesota, USA

Physical Build:Medium

Height:Medium

Hair Color:Brown

Eye Color:Blue

Relative:Amanda Engelbringtson

 

Står i utvandret oppføringen fødseldato 10 Jun 1874.

 

Charles A. Engelbretson

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Charles A. Engelbretson

Birth Date:1874

Death Date:1951

Cemetery:Lakeside Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Hastings, Dakota County, Minnesota, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

Spouse:Amanda S. Engelbretson

Children:C. Emery Engelbretson

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126024703/charles-a.-engelbretson

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 9, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Per Leo Nilsson]

På 9.5.2021 den 15.45, Grethe Flood skrev:

I 1879 finner jeg Anna Charlotta Engelbrektsdatter som utflytter fra Aremark til Kråkstad i (tidligere) Akershus fylke:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/291/pu00000000167427

Østfold fylke, Øymark i Aremark, Ministerialbok nr. II 4 (1878-1895), Utflyttede 1878-1880, Side 194
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5444/176

 

 

 

Var blir det av Anna Charlotta efter flytten till Kråkstad??

 

Hälsning Per Nilsson

[Richard Johan Natvig]

Kva med ein liten takk for hjelpa, så langt??

[Per Leo Nilsson]

Det måste bli ett Jättestort tack, utan er hjälp kommer jag inte långt,

det måste vara kunnigt folk som klarar Norsk släktforskning

vi har det alldeles för lätt i Sverige, BRA att ni finns till.

Hoppas på mer hjälp med Anna Charlotta.

 

Hälsning Per Nilsson

 

[Richard Johan Natvig]

Det er nok fleire enn eg som prøver. Det viser seg at Anna Charlotta ikkje er så lett å spora etter flytting til Kråkstad, men er vi heldige finn vi ho igjen.

[Grethe Flood]

Skudd i blinde:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000036505957

Oslo fylke, Rikshospitalet i Oslo, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1898-1900), Fødte og døpte 1898, Side 27
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1844/34

 

Som sagt: skudd i blinde - aner jo ikke om dette er din dame, Per!

 

 

Endret Mai 10, 2021 av Grethe Flood

[Per Leo Nilsson]

Nu börjar det bli riktigt spännande, kan det finnas vigsel?

Hälsning Per Nilsson

 

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Det står Ug. Murer og Vaskep(ike).

 

De kan jo ha giftet seg senere - men sannsynligvis ikke!

 

Jeg finner ingen senere spor etter Martin(ius) Johannesen fra Horten, Anna Charlotta eller barnet Olga Josefine.

Endret Mai 11, 2021 av Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Richard Johan Natvig]

I kyrkjeboka (https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1844/34) ved dåpen til Olga Josefine står det etter moras namn: sv., som eg tolkar som ein merknad om at mora var svensk. Det kan derfor vera den rette Anna Charlotta.

 

Olga blei truleg sett bort av kommunen. I folketellinga 1900 finn vi Olga Eriksen (https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pf01037045035540) fødd 1898, "Skal udsættes af Kommunen". Denne Olga bur midlertidig hos John Karlsen (svensk) og Karen Karlsen. Ei Karen Karlsen er fadder for Olga ved dåpen hennar (https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1844/34)

Dersom denne Olga Eriksen kan sporast opp i Fattigvesenet i Oslo vil vi kanskje få fleire opplysningar også om mora (og faren).

[Richard Johan Natvig]

Ei Anne Charlotte Eriksen, f. 1858 i Sverige, fekk stønad frå fattigvesenet i Oslo i 1898, linje 6 ovanfrå:

OBA, Fattigvesenet, Fb/L0018: Hjemstavnsregister, 1898, s. 45
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/od20120202612916

[Carla J Tweeton]

I am not too sure about reading any of the replies as I do not read or write Nowegian or Swedish but I have a chart on the Erik 

Engelbretson family.  I know they moved from Sweden to Norway (close to Varmland in Sweden).  My gt. grandparents lived 

on an adjacent farm named Sloreby; the Engelbretson family lived on the other Sloreby farm; if I am correct.  The note I have 

about father Erik E. is that he died in 1923 at Swedish Hospital in St. Paul,  MN USA; was buried in Trembelle, WI in the Moeville

Cemetery.  Also that Mariane Andersdotter, his wife died in 1917.  

I have a sheet of those buried in that cemetery but must hunt more for it.....I do think that Anna Charlotte is also buried there, also possibly Elise

(LIsa) and a brother, Johan Edvard 1869 - 2/11/1959.  Possibly buried at Bethel Covenant Church in Trembelle , Pierce County WI.

Karl Anton and Emma Matilda are buried in Hastings , MN (Dakota County).  Maria gm to Olaf Alfred Erikson -Sweden.  I have tried 

to find what happened to  Anders Emil  (1866) but never have found the correct Anders. Nils Olai may have lived in Dakota County , too???

I have no idea if this pertains to your question but thought to send what may or may not be helpful.

Carla J. Tweeton 

[Anton Hagelee]

13 hours ago, Carla J Tweeton said:

I have a sheet of those buried in that cemetery but must hunt more for it.....I do think that Anna Charlotte is also buried there, also possibly Elise

(LIsa) and a brother, Johan Edvard 1869 - 2/11/1959. 

 

 

The Original Poster seems to be mostly interested in the fate of Anna Charlottte, so if it is true that she is buried in Wisconsin that would be of considerable interest. However the information provided above by Grethe and Richard leans toward Anna Charlotte remaining in Norway. Any new information you could provide is likely to be useful. 

 

Here is the FAG record for Erick Engelbretson. The FAG site shows two other family members also buried at Bethel Covenant Cemetery. 

 

Erick Engelbretson

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Erick Engelbretson

Birth Date:1834

Death Date:25 Jun 1923

Death Place:Hennepin County, Minnesota, United States of America

Cemetery:Bethel Covenant Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Trenton, Pierce County, Wisconsin, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

Spouse:Mariana Engelbretson

Children:Edward Engelbritson

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103624776/erick-engelbretson

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

In the 1910 US Census, we found Erick, wife Mary and son Edward and son Charles  and his family. 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2LP-PGW

 

However in the 1920 US Census we do find Edward and his father but also  a sister Annie widowed born about 1858 in Sweden.

 

Annie Anderson

in the 1920 United States Federal Census

Name:Annie Anderson[Arnie Anderson]

Age:62

Birth Year:abt 1858

Birthplace:Sweden

Home in 1920:Trimbelle, Pierce, Wisconsin

Residence Date:1920

Race:White

Gender:Female

Immigration Year:1882

Relation to Head of House:Sister

Marital Status:Widowed

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Sweden

Native Tongue:Swedish

Naturalization Status:Naturalized

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Edward Engbretson50Head

Annie Anderson62Sister

Eric Engbretson85Father

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF2Z-2BC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 15, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

In the 1930 US Census, I only find Edward. 

 

Edward Englebritson

in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Edward Englebritson[Edward Engebritson]

Birth Year:abt 1870

Gender:Male

Race:White

Age in 1930:60

Birthplace:Sweden

Marital Status:Single

Relation to Head of House:Head

Home in 1930:Trimbelle, Pierce, Wisconsin, USA

Map of Home:Trimbelle, Pierce, Wisconsin

Dwelling Number:19

Family Number:19

Home Owned or Rented:Owned

Radio Set:Yes

Lives on Farm:Yes

Attended School:No

Able to Read and Write:Yes

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Sweden

Language Spoken:Swedish

Immigration Year:1882

Naturalization:Naturalized

Able to Speak English:Yes

Occupation:Farmer

Industry:Gen. Farm

Class of Worker:Working on own account

Employment:Yes

Household Members:1

 

 

Endret Mai 15, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

16 hours ago, Carla J Tweeton said:

..I do think that Anna Charlotte is also buried there, also possibly Elise

(LIsa) and a brother, Johan Edvard 1869 - 2/11/1959. 

 

Carla, I wonder if you could check to see if this Anna C Anderson is the Anna Charlotte that you mentioned is buried at Bethel Covenant Cemetery. 

 

Anna C Anderson

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Anna C Anderson

Birth Date:1857

Death Date:5 Feb 1928

Cemetery:Bethel Covenant Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Trenton, Pierce County, Wisconsin, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

 

She is described as "sister" in the FAG site, but sister of whom is not said?

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103624632/anna-c-anderson

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Kanskje et langskudd, men burde undersøke denne damen. 

 

Anna Anderson

in the 1910 United States Federal Census

Name:Anna Anderson

Age in 1910:51

Birth Date:1859[1859]

Birthplace:Sweden

Home in 1910:Trimbelle, Pierce, Wisconsin, USA

Race:White

Gender:Female

Immigration Year:1884

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Plaus Anderson

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Sweden

Native Tongue:English

Occupation:Carpenter

Industry:House

Employer, Employee or Other:Wage Earner

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Years Married:22

Number of Children Born:0

Number of Children Living:0

Out of Work:N

Number of Weeks Out of Work:0

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Plaus Anderson70Head

Anna Anderson51Wife

[Anton Hagelee]

Olaus ikke Plaus i 1910 FT 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP22-ZRR

 

Olaues Anderson

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Olaues Anderson

Birth Date:20 Dec 1839

Death Date:4 Jul 1914

Cemetery:Bethel Covenant Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Trenton, Pierce County, Wisconsin, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103624965/olaues-anderson