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Kom til Bergen til slutt så då har eg koll på resten 🙂

Glimrende 🙂 Rett navn på bruras far og ser eg no. Takker og bukker....

I will be very glad for your help. I am looking for information about Wilhelm Danielson and his wife Catherine Danielson. In the shiplist it shows W Danielson with wife and 2 children. They lived in Kristiania. Their adress was Toftes gt 57, Paulus menighet Regards Torgeir Karlin

Husforhørsliste 1899 - 1904 for Landskrona https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLPV-PHGN?lang=no

Vielse i Familysearch 13.september 1903 i Malmöhus https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FKKF-KJT?lang=no Navn Nils Herman Larsson Lindal Kjønn Male Ektefellens navn Marie Klansdr Molvold Ektefellens kjønn Female Type hendelse Marriage Hendelsesdato 13 Sep 1903 Sted for hendelse Malmöhus, Sweden

Bedre søking ble gjort av Chat GPT. Here’s the short version of what we know about the Beta voyage and what became of the people on board: The voyage (Oct 27, 1880 → Feb 1881) The Norwegian bark Beta (846 tons), Capt. C. Rist-Christensen, cleared Drammen 27 Oct 1880 with ~327 contract workers (plus children) recruited by Christian L’Orange for 3-year sugar-plantation contracts in the Hawaiian Kingdom. Norway Heritage The ship ran into heavy weather in the North Sea, then headed south. After eight weeks it reached the Strait of Magellan; they transited it on Christmas Eve. A fire in the hold on New Year’s Eve was extinguished, and the ship re-provisioned on the South American coast before crossing the Pacific. Nine children died during the passage (mostly malnourishment). Satrum Arrival: Beta anchored off McGregor Point / Māʻalaea Bay, Maui on Feb 17–18, 1881 (sources differ by one day; Maui traditions mark Feb 18 near the lighthouse). Norway Heritagei L i n d First assignments in Hawaiʻi Most Beta passengers were sent to Maui plantations (e.g., Wailuku, Haʻikū/Hāmākua Poko), with others dispatched to Kohala and Hilo on Hawaiʻi Island and to Kauaʻi. (Exact rosters vary by plantation in period reports.) Satrum What life was like Many Norwegians felt misled: the Norwegian-language contracts signed in Drammen did not match the English-language contracts enforced on arrival; food allowances (notably salt beef/poi) and work rules disappointed expectations. This produced some of Hawaiʻi’s earliest multi-ethnic plantation disputes. Wikipedia Documented 1881 actions include: Maui (A&B): strike over food; workers jailed, then returned. Kohala (Hawaiʻi Island): food-allowance case—workers won in court. Pāpaʻikou (Hilo): broader contract dispute—workers lost and returned. Wikipedia The disputes drew international press (“Hawaiian Hades”) and a formal investigation by J. A. W. Grip (sent by Sweden-Norway). Grip downplayed most abuse claims but confirmed contract-language problems, which the government moved to fix. Wikipedia What became of them After serving out their terms, the large majority left Hawaiʻi—many to San Francisco and, from there, to California and the Pacific Northwest. By 1900, only ~410 Scandinavians in Hawaiʻi were foreign-born (270 Norwegian/Danish, 140 Swedish), reflecting how few remained. Wikipedia Maui commemorated the arrival with a bautastein monument at McGregor Point (installed for the 1981 centennial; the plaque has since been moved/relocated due to vandalism; a new interpretive plaque is planned at the A&B Sugar Museum). i L i n d Primary lists & further reading Passenger lists for Beta (1880) and Musca (1880) are indexed at Digitalarkivet (Norway’s National Archives). digitalarkivet.no+1 Best concise narrative of the Beta trip and the plantation conflicts: Jon Satrum, “1881 – Norwegians in Hawaiʻi”(NAHA paper; includes the Magellan passage, New Year’s Eve fire, nine child deaths, and settlement patterns). Satrum Handy overview with dates and strike outcomes: “Scandinavian migration to the Hawaiian Kingdom”(compiled from period newspapers and scholarly work). Wikipedia If you’re tracing a specific family from the Beta, I can pull their Digitalarkivet entries and match them to known plantation assignments from the 1881–1882 reports.

Med adskillig usikkerhet: uægte barn 1756 N-7d 12 Decmbr blev Eli Nils datter støens datter døbt Gulud fader Nils Olsen Rogstad Lars Halvorsen ved Leyet ad[?] til?? Æncken Maren Pedersd: ved Leyet : Hans Biørnsen støens H: Jens Olsens H: ved Leyet og Faderen til barnet angives at være Peder Pedersen Nyborg hans anden gangs forselse og hendes 3die gangs forselse den hund første gang har begaaet Leyer Maal Med Peter Halmstad[?] og den Anden og trædige gang Med her[?] wen[?] Meldete Peder Pedersen Nyborg Mvh

Very little information obtained from Norway-Heritage and Wkipedia by Meta AI The Norwegian bark "Beta" set sail from Drammen, Norway on October 27, 1880, bound for Hawaii, carrying 396 passengers, including 327 adults and 69 children. The ship navigated through the North Sea, encountering rough waters and storms, before passing through the Strait of Magellan on Christmas Eve. After a four-month journey, the Beta arrived in Hawaii on February 18, 1881, and anchored at McGregor Point, Maui. Life in Hawaii: Upon arrival, the passengers were assigned to work on sugarcane plantations, primarily on the islands of Maui and Hawaii. However, their experience was marred by disputes over labor contracts, working conditions, and food quality. Many Norwegians felt that their original contract had been altered, leading to widespread discontent. Challenges Faced: Contract Disputes: The Norwegians had signed a four-year contract in Norway, but upon arrival, they were presented with a different contract in English, which many couldn't understand. Working Conditions: Plantation managers were often harsh, and workers were subjected to physical punishment and wage deductions. Food Quality: Passengers complained about the poor quality of food provided on the ship and in the plantations. Outcome: The experiment of employing Norwegian workers on sugar plantations ultimately failed. After their four-year contracts expired, the majority of Norwegians left Hawaii for the US mainland, settling primarily in California, Minnesota, and the Dakotas. A small number of Norwegians remained in Hawaii, leaving a lasting legacy ¹ ². Legacy: The Scandinavian migration to Hawaii may have been a failure, but it had a significant impact on the sugar industry and labor laws in Hawaii. The story of these Norwegian migrants has been documented in books and research papers, including Torbjørn Greipsland's "Aloha from Forgotten Norwegians in Hawaii" ².

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01074034111674 Mulig for noen å finne giftemål til dette paret i Sverige ? Ser begge barn er født der.

Fra Norway=Heritage "Jack M. Johnson in Danville, California, has provided the following information about these ships: 1. The Norwegian bark "Beta", 846 tons, sailed from Drammen for Hawaii, October 27, 1880. Its master was Captain C Rist-Christensen, and it carried 327 adults, including 49 married people and 69 children aged 12 and under. 2. The German Bark, "Musca", ~700 tons, sailed from Drammen for Hawaii, November 23, 1880. Its master was Captain D.W. Oltman, and it carried 237 passengers, including 29 marieds and 57 children 12 and under. Jack has the passenger lists for both ships. His gr-grandfather, Nils Emil Aars, sailed on the Beta and kept a diary which can be located in the Seaman's Museum in Oslo, he also keeps a copy him self." https://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=beta1 https://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1880

Helle Juel Granberg f 1758, nevnt flere ganger over, og rømte til Sverige ca 1791-92, var fra Østen i Brandbu (Gran). Han var morbror til far til Steffen Olsen f på Østen 10.1 1810, som kom til Tømmeråsvolla, se over. Sønnen Christian Steffensen født i Jevnaker 18. januar 1851, som nevnt av Dag Gravem i innlegget fra 23. august over, ble poliskommissarie i Sverige, knapt 100 år seinere. 😄 PJ

Jeg vet ikke om det er interessant så lenge etterpå, men dette er feil Johan Sigvart Kristiansen. Dåpen til den riktige var i Vang i 1880 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110610203. Andre kilder peker på dette. Han som var gift med Gustava hadde far Kristian Martinusen, ikke Søren Kristiansen. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070308620358 Fangeprotokollen som omtaler dommen for knivsikkeren nevner samme far, og mor pige Elen Jørgine Johansen. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/db10101604200087

Rettelse: Det står A. Grüning. Han var generalkonsul i Christiania. https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/Andreas_Grüning

Tusen takk for hjelpen Trond. mvh Arne

Hallo Anita. Her er det nok en liten feil. Petra Lovise Olsdatter f. 19.04.1898 er datter av Kaja Pedersdatter, Risbergsæteren f. 20.09.1878 og Ole Pedersen f. 1876. Anna Antonsdatter`s foreldre er Kaja Sørensdatter f. 07.01.1866 og Anton Arnesen Våltorp f. 14.05.1863 Petra Lovise og Anna er kusiner, ikke søstre. Mvh. Reidar Jacobsen Holt PS. Petra Lovise sin mann var fra Våler. Hennes far har jeg ikke funnet ut hvor er fra enda.

Heisan. Jeg prøver å komme inn på skiftet etter min 4X tippoldemor men finner ikke ut av det. Hun skal være i skifteregister for Troms 1690-1805 side 139 b (Skjervøy prestegård Troms). hennes mann var Jacob Nielsen Grønbech, ukjent født og død. Supert om noen kunne finne dette for meg. mvh Grethe

Dette er trolig Ellings dåp 02.10.1802: Venstre side, første innføring i oktober Hordaland fylke, Lindås, Austrheim, Fedje, Myking, Lygra, Sandnes i Lindås, Ministerialbok nr. A 5 (1791-1813), Kronologisk liste 1802, Side 135 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070511650515 Foreldre Brynnild Siursen og Martha Rognaldsdtr. Wedefield

Har den, men som sagt så finner jeg ingenting om deres utreise i norske kirkebøker eller andre norske utreise protokoller. Det synes jeg er litt rart. Siden de emigrerte så burde de vel være registrert som utflyttet/emigrert Mvh torgeir karlin

At hun da står som svensk, og at de står som gift ved utreise, selv om de gifter seg når de kommer fram, det får vi vel bare runde av, og tro at vi er innafor. 😊

Tusen takk. Jeg klarte å lese meg til ü og ing, men resten klarte jeg ikke å få en mening i. Jeg har vært i kontakt med Norges Bank, Finansdept., Statsarkivet og Riksarkivet, men de kan ikke hjelpe med bakgrunn for dokumentet. Kanskje "Det Kongelige Reskript af 26.februar 1826" kan si noe om hvorfor dette dokument ble sendt til Kamstrup, Tollkonteret, Kragerø ? Mulig at jeg kan finne Reskriptet i Den Norske Rigstidende fra 1826 ?

I 1864 står den med 19, så da er den kanskje forlenget etter det: https://www.nb.no/items/874c1136cdc28d5abef67c6b6cade059?page=247&searchText=%22%20%20virgo%22%20 , men ved avmønstring 7/12-81 fortsatt står med 19, ikke 23 slik registeret 1867/68 sier. Etter 1881 ser jeg ikke spor av den, sammenfallende med at Køhler gikk konkurs 1882/83, og ser ut som de solgte diverse skip før det, samtidig som de kjøpte dampskip.

Da har du vel denne? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/194/pe00000000649660

23. mai 1819 blir Elling Brynjelsen konfirmert i Askøy prestegjeld. Hva er foreldrenes etternavn? Askøy Sokneprestembete, AV/SAB-A-74101/H/Ha/Haa/Haaa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. A 3, 1815-1825, s. 263, lnr 24 nederst. Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070319650222 mvh. Arne

Oluf Rygh: Gårdnr Gård Sogn Herred Amt 104 Lilleby Haug Øvre Eker Buskeruds amt 104. Lilleby. Udt. li`llebý. ― Lileby NRJ. IV 72, 1528. Leelle Bye 1578. Lilleby 1593. 1661. Lille Bye 1723. Egentlig: Lillegaarden. ??? Gårdnr Gård Sogn Herred Amt 137 Lislebø Fon Ramnes Jarlsberg og Larviks amt 137. Lislebø. Udt. li`sslebø. ― Lillebøe 1593. 1604.1/1. Lisle- bøe 1668. 1723. *Litlibr, Lillegaarden (i Modsætning til GN. 136). Har du sett gårdsnavnene brukt om hverandre i Eiker?

Takk for svar, Kristian. Bergverkene, altså både Røros og Kongsberg(?)