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Vanskelig å kontakte fjerne slektninger Er de interessert i kontakt? Det kan være nyttig å finne personene i 1950 US Census. Internett kan hjelpe. Facebook, e-post, familietrær også. Kanskje du kan legge ut et navn eller to. Vi kan finne dem i 1950 FT. Jeg er i 1950 FT og jeg er fortsatt i live!😀

Noko slikt: "Ole Nielsen og Henricha Jons dr. boende paa Grønland ved Xtiania. Konen gik omkring med nogen smaa Kram, og giorde Barsel paa Gran. "

Hei Grethe, Det du skriver her er en generell hjelp, som sikkert mange (og jeg) setter pris på. Jeg oppfatter imidlertid at trådstarter etterspør informasjon fra DA, når det tekniske på DAs systemer svikter, slik det gjorde på bred front tirsdag 21. juni. (Se flere meldinger under forum-gruppene "Tekniske tilbakemeldinger".) Mye av de tekniske problemene synes å være løst i dag. Så langt har jeg ikke sett noen tilbakemeldinger fra DAs tekniske avdeling angående dette... Jeg er enig med trådstarter, om at det kunne vært en ide å ha en forum-kategori, hvor DA teknisk avdeling burde/kunne legge ut driftsmeldinger hurtig, slik at mange slipper frustrasjonene med feilsøking. "Er deg jeg eller DA som har problemer?" Slik det var tirsdag, ble det startet en hel del nye spørsmåls-tråder om problemer (som var av teknisk art), som ved en prompte driftsmelding kunne vært ungått.

Or this - LINK

Lets try this https://kart.1881.no/?r=F4146962

I tend to agree with Egil on this one. Of a small sample size of one, the tale of my grandfather and his name is illustrative He left Åmli, Agder as Aanon Olsen Høgeli in 1888. He was 16 years old. Nr. 1 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509150486 He left Kristiansand as Aanen Skjæggedal. Skjæggedal being the next farm down valley where he probably worked before leaving. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000270599 He arrived in New York as Olsen Skieggerdal through Bremen, Germany on a ship called Ems Finding his arrival was a years long project. In Minnesota he used Anton Hagelee. His two brothers became a Hogelee and a Hogeli

Hei. Det er mange som lurer på hvorfor det er så vanskelig / umulig å finne informasjon på digitalarkivet.no i dag. Vi slektsforskere er så bortskjemt med at digitalarkivet har blitt en så flott søkeside som stadig oppgraderes, så når man ikke får treff på ting man har funnet tidligere så er det mange som "river seg i håret". Mitt spørsmål er: Er det mulig for digitalarkivet å legge ut en driftsmelding som forteller litt om hva som skjer evt. hva problemene er og hvor lang tid man tror det vil ta å løse det? Mvhilsen Synøve Heen

Tusen takk Richard !

Og ja: Ligesaa.

Meget god Kundskab Flid og Forhold

Tusen takk for raske svar, tolkning og gode forslag!!

I read it as “Born a child on Nygaard under Neseim? son Ole, father Michel Michelsen, mother Ragnilld Olsdatter, Witnesses Margrete Neseim, Eli Vingeharn?, Niels Naseim, Michel Eie? Then it runs into the next baptism record bor Boel, so probably not important here. The farm names are a little hard to make out so that is where I put the ? mark. As to your comment " I don't read or speak Norwegian", I think that after a few months doing Norwegian genealogy you will modify that a bit.

Dette er "etternavn" og ikke stedsnavn.

v i denne sammenhengen betyr eller, altså Hans Daniel Andersen Schiæfting eller Bærum, to navn han var kjent under. Ved dåpen til denne Hans Daniel 29/3 1726 er farens navn Anders Bærum. Buskerud fylke, Kongsberg i Kongsberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 2 (1721-1743), Fødte og døpte 1726, Side 50-51 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070316610047 Ole Larsen Ringnæs eller Linnum Ole Andersen Berg eller Biering

Her er litt mer: Ole Nielsen og Henricha Jons dr. boende paa Grønland ved Xtiania. Konen gik omkring med nogen ??? paa Broen, og giorde Barsel paa Gran.

Køhler var nok ikke en sak som Jan Frode startet. Allerede i 1945 var det en artikkel i Bergens Tidende hvor en bekjent omtaler ham. https://eavis.bt.no/titles/bergenstidende/2071/publications/2121666586/pages/2 Trenger abonnement for å leses, derfor legger jeg med artikkelen som bilde.

Det var mange ting folke slet med, men tror det har rettet seg nå.

Sure 🙂 Abstract: - The Jo(n) Gunnarson family was one of several families who leased “husmannsplass” (= a smallholding where the rent was (partly) payed by working at the main farm) under Aubø. This smallholding was called Aubøsund. - Jo(n) was baptized the 7th of January 1816. His parents were Gunnar Larsson and Guri Tjerandsdotter, who leased a smallholding under the farm Opsal. - Jo(n) married Ragnhild Mikkelsdotter Nygård (born 15th of June 1820) on 1st of June 1846. - They had seven children (a. – g.). - Jo(n) was a carpenter. - On the smallholding they had 2 cows, 20 sheep and 1 pig. Every spring they would sow half a barrel of barley (= 18 gallon), 1 barrel of oat (= 36 gallon) and 2 barrels of potatoes (= 440 lb). - Jo(n) and Ragnhild emigrated to America bringing at least one of their children, the son Gedius. - Ragnhild’s brother, Nils Mikkelson Nygård, took over the smallholding.

Yes 😊

Looking at the Geni.com Ancestor Report, shows a line form Mathias Withers to this man. Making him a descendant of the first person listed in this tree. Mathis, Lingum Østre Gender: Male Birth: between 1570 and 1571 Tjølling, Vestfold, Norway Death: circa 1624 (47-58) Tjølling, Vestfold, Norway https://www.geni.com/list/ancestors/6000000083998698191#12

The name Lindhjem (Lingum - old name) in written form can be traced back to 1495. The farm was for sure divided in 1593 as Vestre (West) and Østre (East) Lindhjem, but more likely divided as early as 1528 (Source; Tjølling bygdebok. 2 : Gårder og slekter. page 553). So, yes - two different farms - Vestre & Østre Lindhjem.

Eg berre nemner at ein kan skrive krøllalfa og namn slik: @Anton Hagelee. Dersom han er pålogga vil han få melding om at han er nemnd i denne tråden.

This auction notice is really interesting, too, thank you for providing and translating. We know William left Norway on August 6, so perhaps he was in Lindhjem over the summer to assist with this auction. As I understand it, William/Hans's sister Anne Malene Andersen (b. 1834) was the only child other than William/Hans still living after the death of their father (Hans Søresnen Lindhjem) in 1885. (As perviously reported, she was married to Thore Andersen and died January 31, 1911.) Is Østre Lindhjem different from Lindhjem - different farms?

This is so interesting, thank you, Egil, for the additional detail from the obituary Sven found about Hans's correspondence with his "son." It suggests a desire and opportunity for WB to return to Larvik in 1885. It is still puzzling to me why they would not have included the name of the son in any of the articles, especially if the family knew who and where he was in America? Was it maybe out of embarrassment because Hans had changed his name? Or if they had written his original name (Hans Hansen), would that have raised questions about the circumstances of his departure in 1850 (although as Inger points out, that would have been unlikely so many years later)? Or maybe families didn't typically mention the names of overseas relatives?

Jeg har forsøkt, med 2 timers mellomrom, å søke opp kirkebøker. Første søk: 1820-1850 viede i Aker i Akershus. 0 treff. Byttet så ut Aker med Oslo, og fikk fram 3 treff som alle var nesten helt nye kirkebøker fra 1900-tallet, stemte altså ikke med intervallet 1820-1850- Samme søk for 5 minutter siden, 0 treff på Aker. Forsøkte så med Buskerud, alle prestegjeld, samme periode, og fikk 3 treff som heller ikke der stemte med perioden. Bakke sogn i Eiker 1897-1981, Dagali i Hol 1948-1978 og Efteløt i Sandsvær 1939-1971. Det er helt tydelig at søkene ikke fungerer. Vennlig hilsen Ole.

Legger lenke til Finn Kilde/Bergen/Fattigvesen - så har du det til en annen gang ☺️

Henriette Sophie Fixen - Bergen politikammer / politidistrikt, Heimstadsforklaringer, nr. 7: 1878-1881 - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/237/pc00000000031560 Skannet # 22, midt på siden og videre på neste side (bla videre) - Bergen fylke, Hjemstavnsprotokoll nr. 7 (1878-1881), Protokollside, Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/db10630508070176 Kanskje legge til Tydeforum?

Welcome to the forum. Anton came before me... his advice is a very good advice. Rindal and Tustna are far from Oslo (perhaps 8-10 hours driving by car), and Oslo may not be that interesting in the perspective of (your) family history. Ask about interpretation and understanding of sources here - before you arrive. Find a map to detect the places (and check here if you are on the right place - different places can have similar names). BTW, also follow the rule you already have accepted by registration, to use full name as display name: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/content/change-display-name

I guess I would recommend that you have as much of the understanding done before you leave for Norway. Then you can plan visits to places of most interest before you arrive.

Hmd under Pgrden paa Kalrasten - altså Husmand under Præstegaarden paa Kalrasten (- Kalrasten var en husmannsplass under Biri prestegård). Dødsårsaken ar Alderdom, ja.

Some bygdebok-authors omitted children assumed to have died as children, probably to shorten the text. But in this case, the assumption that Hans died as a child, seems to be wrong.

That's a bummer! According to the obit posted by Sven, he had 8 children total. Only two alive in 1885 when he died. A daughter, assume Anne Malene and a son in America. Following the 1865 Census, he also had Søren Hansen born around 1830 Inger P Hansdatter born around 1844 Henrik M Hansen born around 1849 Ancestry turns up Maren Kirstine Hansen born 1839 Inger Petraea Hansen born 1842 A second Anne Malene, credit to Sven. The info not the child😀 The two Anne Malene, one born in 1834 and one born in 1836l

https://www.nb.no/items/da6992a4b372b20e2faa2afbc07cac6d?page=235&searchText="paul martin, f. 1932" https://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2012060824035

Christian Olsen og Marie Jocumsdtr emigrerer i 1879 nr 30, 31 Gausdal prestekontor, SAH/PREST-090/H/Ha/Haa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1867-1886, s. 468 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070116630020 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000440802

I should stop writing messages late at night... Of course our union in 1849 was with Sweeden, which was loosely allied with Denmark. Norske gårdsbruk, Vestfold 2 https://www.nb.no/items/d7b6a8abeb13ea838d26df0aeb6badab?page=595 says Lingum Østre is part of the original Linheim farm (same farm number, 64). It also says that the family who lived there at least from 1593 until some time into the 1900's no longer had descendants to take over the farm. It was sold to someone called Henry Skaraaseie, who the sold it to Mathis Wittersø who belonged to 'a younger branch of the family" i 1945. He bought it on 'odel', which meant he had to prove he was closely related to a recent, former owner who had lived there for some considerable time. There is a Geni page for Mathis Wittersø administrated by a Lindhjem https://www.geni.com/people/Mathis-Wittersø/6000000083998698191

No information on a son Hans born 1832:

Fikk mail i dag fra Danske Slægtsforskere og ønsker å dele denne nyheten her: https://link-lives.dk/soeg/ Ny dansk søgeplatform ser dagens lys! På siden Link-Lives kan du nu søge i folketællinger 1787-1901, kirkebøger 1813-1917 samt begravelses-protokoller fra København 1861-1912 med én samlet søgning. Det særlige ved Link Lives er, at man – ud over at finde sine aner i de tre nævnte kilder – kan være heldig at finde ”livsforløb”, hvor oplysninger på tværs af kilderne er knyttet sammen til en og samme person. Det er en god idé at læse vej­led­ning­erne, før du går i gang. Vejledningen findes her. Link-Lives projektet udføres af arkiver og forskere i fællesskab. De primære partnere i projektet er Saxo-Instituttet (Københavns Universitet), Rigsarkivet, Københavns Stadsarkiv og Novo Nordisk Foundation Center for Protein Research (Københavns Universitet).

One other comment, I would make is to not get too discouraged that you have not yet found the ancestry of your William Henry Brown. I have seen posters on this site and the forum on NorwayHeritage post and repost in their search for ancestors. Yes some of them never succeeded but others have been successful after years of trying. In my case i encountered a so called brick wall. It was finally solved after years of searching by using a Y-DNA test. I tested on Familytree DNA and posted the results there and on NorwayProject. After two years of waiting I finally got a close match (called Genetic Distance GD ) of 1. Meaning a relationship in 6 generations or less. The match and I compared our family trees and found a common ancestor. So keep on working on the paper trail, consider using DNA technology and do not give up the search.

It might be useful to also discuss a little of the geography of Vestfold. Vestfold until a very recent change in Norway combined several Counties (Fylke in Norwegian). Thus Vestfold and Telemark were folded together. Made the life of genealogy a bit more difficult but so be it. Most og the searches we do involve the County such as Vestfold. Those counties consisted of parishes (prestegjeld) which usually also has sub-parishes (sogn). Brunlanes and Larvik are both parishes and not far apart. Here is a good Norwegian-English dictionary. Look up prestgjeld for an explanation. https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/p-t/#P This is a good look at the map of Vestfold and shows the parishes as well. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Vestfold_County,_Norway_Genealogy You can click on the parish names and get a description of the parish and its sub-parishes.

I know you directed your questions to Inger, but I will jump in here and answer a few of them. I am sure Inger can provide better answers tomorrow as well. Here is a discussion on naming practices in Norway. 'In Norway prior to the 1860s families did not use fixed surnames. They used a patronymic pattern in which children were named after their father. Hence, John Andersen = John, the son of Anders." From https://norwegianridge.com/2011/07/10/understanding-norwegian-naming-patterns/ As well as the last name in America coming from the fathers first name, Norwegian emigrants used the name of the farm they were associated with in Norway. For example my last name of Hagelee comes from the farm my grandfather was born on Høgeli. And in a search for the origins of the early settlers of Hickory Grove Township, Wisconsin a Ole Brown was found to have been a Ole Syverson Brunsbakke born in Hedalen, Sør-Aurdal 12.9.1824. The last name of a parish or sub-parish can also be used. For example the parish of Brunlanes has produced the last name of Brown in America.