[#33504] Tobior SUIRSDATTER ?

[Gjest Steve Rea]

My family has a shipping trunk which has Torbior Suirsdatter AGE 1835 painted on the outside. We have no idea who she is and what connection she has to our family. Inside the trunk in a secret compartment were several letters written to her from Norway and also her smallpox vaccination certificate. I believe that I found her in the 1801 telling for 1211 Etne. Any further information that I could find about her would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Steve

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

I don't quite get this. If you have her smallpox vaccination certificate that ought normally give us more information than you have stated here, like her parent's names, where they are living, date of birth (baptism), the name of the person who have vaccinated her, possibly the name of the priest etc. With that information it should not be so difficult to trace her. Please give us all the information, or, if the certificate is difficult to interpret you could possibly scan it and display it in this forum?

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

And you mean this girl in 1801? Lenke

[Gjest Marie Skålnes]

Her wedding: Lenke

[Gjest Marie Skålnes]

I find an Arent Ericson at Sævareid, but he is only 15 years: Lenke

[Gjest Arild Kompelien]

Why should this be the right Torbjørg? What is the connection between her and Etne? I see no connection except that the name fits in.May be she is the right one. But to decide that more information is needed, as mentioned by Håkon in (2).

[Gjest Marie Skålnes]

She is the only Torbjørg in Etne in 1801, and she is also married in Etne.

[Gjest Kristian Hunskaar]

Yes, Marie, but why should it be Etne in the first place? We don't if she was born yet in 1801.

[Gjest Marie Skålnes]

Steve Rea mentioned Etne.

[Gjest Jon Torp]

In Ullensvang / Kinsarvik there are several Age/Aga farms. There is also some children called Siuldson at Aga farm beeing burried there in th 1830s. The name Sjul and Torjørg is also used on the Aga farms here. I guess your woman has her roots at one of the Aga farms in Ullensvang. There is by the way an 18 year old girl Torbjørg Sjursdatter leaving Bergen in 1850: http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1104Maybe someone could look into the records for Ullensvang / Kinsarvik.

[Gjest Jon Torp]

Sjur Knutson Moge born 1798 in Ullensvang marries Anna Asbjørnsdatter Aga.In 1828 they have a daughter called Torbjørg Sjursdatter at AGA ........Lenke

[Gjest Jon Torp]

The Torbjorg mentioned above had this brother: [url="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500220113678&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99>Lenke He left for the US here: LenkeHe went together with his brother - born here: Lenke - emigration here:

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

I believe, like Jon (no 10 ++) that the Aga farms and Ullensvang is a much more likely candidate and Etne just a raw guess. That is why I wanted the additional information which can most certainly be found on the vaccination certificate ('kokoppevaccinationsattest'.) With luck we might find Torbjør(g)'s emigration. So please, Steve, give us ALL the information you have.

[Gjest Elin H Skibenes]

The girl Jon (10) found I think is this one from Voss: [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIVOSS&gardpostnr=1843&merk=1843#ovre>Lenke She also have a sister, Eli, who emigrated together with Torbiør:

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

She may well be the right one. But I still feel the need to go back to Steve's original statement, that she left a shipping trunk (utstyrskiste?, reiseskrin?) with the inscription (with my corrections) 'Torbiør Siursdatter Age 1835'. According to (14) she is born around 1831.1. When is it natural for a young girl at that time to aquire a trunk? From birth until confirmation and marriage? Maybe she got it 4 years old?2. It may be possible to find a connection between Torbjør and your (other?) ancestors, Steve, and maybe that way certify that we have found the correct one, but for that we need more information.pehå

[Gjest Arild Kompelien]

I think this guessing is hopeless. To show how hopeless it is - what about Torbjørg Skiursdatter in Røldal - 7 years old 1801? So far I can see no indication of where Torbjørg stems from - it can be Etne, or it can be Østerdalen.

[Gjest Steve Rea]

Thanks for the responses I am sorry I have been so long in replying. I have now found the smallpox vaccination certificate. She is listed as Torbior Suirsdatter AGE fobt i Hardanger af Suir Knudsen og Anna Asbiornsdatter. og boenbe i Ullengvang Sogn ?????? The certificate is dated 13th April 1830. I believe I may have found her on the Norway heritage web site :- Left Stavanger 8th June 1836 and arrived in New York 13th August 1836 aboard the Den Norske Klippe there is a Torbier AGA listed with her husband John AGA and children Halstien Johnsen and Herborg Johnsdatter. As I said previously I have no info on Torbier other than having a sea trunk with her name on and a date of 1835, any information that I could get would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Steve

[Gjest Steve Rea]

I believe Jon Torp may have the right family in his posts 11 and 12

[Gjest Jon Torp]

Steve - Nice to hear back from you. I also found the one leaving on the 'Norske klippe' - She is not the right woman. Checked her.

[Gjest Steve Rea]

Jon- thanks yes she is NOT the right one I have checked her again and it just does not add up. Your posts in no's 11 & 12 are definately her as they correspond with her smallpox certificate.The shipping trunk had a group of about 15 letters in it, all of which are written in Norwegian and of course I do not speak a word of the language so I do not understand them, the letters are postmarked between 1858 and 1872, they could possibly be correspondence between her and her family?

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

Thank you for coming back with more information. (As I said in (2) there SHOULD be more info in the smallpox certificate. Letters like these are historically interesting and much sought after. I think you should seriously consider scanning them and adding them to this forum. That way we we can translate them and maybe also find clues about the relationship between Torbjør and your family, if there is one.

[Gjest Steve Rea]

I will start to scan these letter in date order and post them as I too am very interested in what they say, thanks Steve

[Gjest Elin H. Skibenes]

Maybe this is her emigrating: Lenke

[Gjest Jon Torp]

YES! - Elin!Good! You found her!She is here in the 1865 Norwegian census: Lenke

[Gjest Trygve Utne]

Hi! One of Torbior`s (Torbjørg) brothers was Asbjørn. If it can be of interest, I have contact with a woman in Minnesota who has a little information about Asbjørn. She is married with one of Asbjørn`s descendants. I know that she has picture of Asbjørn. I have also sent her a little bit information about the Aga-family, as well a photo of the place where Torbior and Asbjørn were born. If you are interested, she has told me I can give you her web-address: mmoen@prtel.comRegards Trygve Utne