[#33556] Ambjør Pedersdatter, f. ca. 1761, Drammen?

[Gjest Egil Theie]

At Peder kom fra Lier, kan være et godt forslag. Se her hva jeg fant i Lier bygdebok: LenkeDer nevnes en Peder Didriksen (til Bragernes) som sønn av Didrik Andersen på Søndre Røyne, Didrik g.m. Ambjørg! Halvorsdatter (oppkalling). Ambjørg H.dtr g.2.g. med Lars Svensen.

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

Flott at sporet i Lier så ut til å føre til rett damen. Flott at så mange bygdebøker er blitt digitalisert. Jeg har hatt stor glede av disse bøkene.Lykke til med ditt arbeid.Mvh. Gunn

[Gjest Egil Theie]

Det mangler vel litt fortsatt for å kunne si sikkert at det er rett Ambjør som er funnet, men mye tyder på det.Dersom dette er rett dame, er det aner tilbake til Tordenstjerne via Anne Kjellsdatter Tordenstjerne - Sten Olufsen - Halvor Stensen - Ambjørg Halvorsdatter - Peder Didriksen - Ambjør.Kanskje jeg må på Tordenstjerne-seminaret?Når det gjelder den eventuelle moren, Johanne Pedersdatter, har jeg ikke funnet noe mer. Noen som kjenner til henne?

[Gjest Egil Theie]

For øvrig hjertelig takk til Svein, som viste til konfirmantene, og Gunn som har funnet mange ledetråder.

[Gjest Egil Theie]

Peder Didriksen var et bomskudd, Ambjørg begraves kort tid etter konfimasjonen:Bragernes kirkebok: Begr. 31. Decembr. 1777, Peder Didrichsens Datter Ambor, 20 år.Den Ambjørg som omtales fra Rollag, f. 1766, er iflg. Rollag bygdebok g.m. en Gjermund og begraves i Rollag.Ellers finner jeg ingen Ambjørg konfirmert på aktuell tid i Bragernes.Da er det bare på begynne på nytt igjen, to stk. Ambjørg er i hvert fall eliminert.

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

Det var synd! Slik er det ofte, et skritt fram og to tilbake. Håper du finner den rette Ambjør senere.Mvh. Gunn

[Gjest Gunn Huglen]

Det er vel ikke enkelt å finne den rette Ambjør.Jeg vet ikke helt hvor gode kirkebøker er fra denne tiden i dette området. Det vet du sikkert bedre . Lurte på om nye registreringer snart er ferdig, men det tar sikkert lang tid før det blir tilgjengelig på nettet?Lette igjennom disse kildene som du vel kjenner svært godt:LenkeVar det ingen opplysninger om bruden Ambjørgs far, eller fødested ved vielsen? Jeg følger med i debatten om dette og håper du finner en løsning på den vanskelige saken.Mvh. Gunn

[Gjest Egil Theie]

HeiFant ingen opplysninger ved vielsen, heller ingen forlovere som kunne gi noen pekepinn.Jeg har sett raskt på Strømsø, uten å finne noen aktuelle kandidater, så da er det nok etterhvert å utvide området. Fant heller ingen andre konfirmerte i aktuelt tidsrom i Bragernes.

[Gjest Trish G]

Hi! I'm hoping somebody can help me as I don't speak Norwegian, I'm sorry. My great,great great grandparents were Bjorn Steengrimsen and Ambior Pedersdatter. Their son Soren Bjornsen born 1794,Bragaernes,Drammen married Ingeborg Andersdatter, born 1790. Their son Mathias Sorensen born 1833,Stokke, married Maren Andrea Larsdatter,born about 1830 Vallo and their son Markus,born 1873,Tonsberg,came to England as a mariner where he met and married my grandmother Isabella Bentley. I would really appreciate it if someone could advise on how I could get these messages translated.I have Einar Haugens dictionary and I've tried a translation site but find it takes too long and isn't accurate. I'd also love it if anyone researching our shared ancestors got in touch. Many thanks. Trish.

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Trish.(1) Ambjør was married 9/7 1789 Bragernes to Bjørn Stengrimsen from Sigdal, son of Stengrim Haagensen. Bjørn was first married to Ingeborg Eriksdt. Bjørn and Ambjør got following children: Peder (1792), Søren (1794) and Ingeborg (1799). Witnesses:1792: Ragnhild Hansdt., Guri Stegrimsdt., Hans Hans., Erland Peders.(maybe wrong for Halvorsen?) and Niels Jacobs.1794: Erland Halvorsen(marrid to Guri Stengrimsdt., Reijer Syversen, Ole Andersen, Kari Clausdatter, Anne Toresdatter.1799: Anne Biørnsdt., Christine Christophersdt., Reyer Syversen, Lars Peders., Gundi Gullichsen.Ambjør is probably the one who dies in Eiker (Stensmyr) in August 1807. Ambjør and Bjørn lives on Store Moen in Drammen (Bragernes) in 1801. Their son Søren later moves to Stokke, and in 1865 he lives on Valberg under Bratås. They also lived on Løverød in Andebu. Does anyone know the parents of Ambjør.(3) Biørn and Ambiør in 1801 Bragernes.(6) Their marriage.(7) The first marriage of Bjørn.(11) In his first marriage, Bjørn and Ingeborg got the children Søren and Marta (born ab. 1781). His first wife Ingeborg ERiksdt. Raaen died after childbirth in Bragernes, and was burried in Febr. 1788.The others are suggestions about who Ambjør was.

[Gjest Trish G]

Hi Berit. Thanks so much! Bjorn was my great,great,great grandfather. I'd found a record in Sigdal and wondered if it was him and you have confirmed it for me! I wasn't sure before. I was also aware that he'd been married twice but didn't know his first wife's name. Thanks again. Trish.

[Gjest Trish G]

P.S. By the way, how did you discover that they lived in Andebu? I didn't know that! Trish.

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

I just tried to translate, so I do not know anything about this people.

[Gjest Trish G]

Thank you Berit. I really appreciate your help. Trish.

[Gjest Egil Theie]

HelloThey baptise Christian in Andebu 1826, look here: Lenke He was then on the farm Løverød (also mentioned in Andebu bygdebok, bind 2, page 348.Berit: Thanks for translating the essence of what has happened. I can tell that there is no progress in where Ambjør is born or her parents.

[Gjest Trish G]

Thank you Egil. Are you a descendant too? Trish.

[Gjest Trish G]

Hi! I've been looking at Soren Bjornsen's birth/baptism record - Bragernes 1782-1814 to try to ascertain his mother, Ambjor's details. Is anyone able to clarify where she comes from please as I can't make it out? It's at the top of page 312, dated Sept 28th 1794. Thanks. Trish.

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

It only says Biøn Stengrimsen and Ambjør Pedersdt. lived at Stormoens eie. Nothing about Ambjør. The date on the right side, is the date for her introduction in the church after the childbirth.

[Gjest Egil Theie]

Hello21: Yes, I am a descendant from Sørens daughter Gjertrud Andrea.Bjørn and Ambor also have Peder baptised 26.8.1792, then the adress was Gulskogen (See the maps in your question about Storemoen). In 1798 they baptised Ingeborg, also in Storemoen.I have found one Stengrim Håkonsen in Svindalen i Andebu (Andebu bygdebok page 752). He is there from 1781, but I have not found him dead in Andebu. I am not sure that this is the father of Bjørn, the father is mentioned in Sigdal earlier and in Krødsherad at least till 1778. That could explain why Søren came to Andebu/Stokke.As I am writing this, I looked at Krødsherad (Sigdal) church record and found one Stengrim Bjørnsen baptised in Krødsherad 5. post trinit 1779 (19.7.1779). That is most likely who moved from Andebu in 1816 to Tønsberg, age 37. The father in 1779 was Bjørn Raaen, compare the fact that Bjørn was maried first time with Ingeborg Raaen. Bjørn was married to Ingeborg 1. trinit. (1.7.1777) in Krødsherad.Ambjør is still a problem for me.