[#34458] Enger in Stange, Norway

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

I am trying to find if Enger is a farm in Stange, Hedmark. I have ancestors who all were born in Stange, but when they came to America used the name Enger. Any advice will be appreciated.Robert

[Gjest Rolf Steinar Bergli]

There is three places called Enger in the 1950 land register: Gnr 53 bnr 7 under Røne nordre. Gnr 93 bnr 56 and 79 under Væstad. and Gnr 169 bnr 5 under Skogsrud. See: [url="http://tinyurl.com/cabnd>http://tinyurl.com/cabndIn the 1900 census there is two Enger farms, under Gnr 17 and '168 and 169' See: http://tinyurl.com/99yqo and

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

Probably the above advice is the better one, but there is also at least one family called Enger in Norway, who seem to originate from Nordre Land in Oppland:Tittel/Title: Gården og slekten ENGER m/fl. I Nordre LandForfatter/Author: Leif A. WienUtgiver/Publisher: Leif A. WienUtgivelsesår/Year: 1984Språk/Language: Norsk/NorwegianFylke/County: OpplandI found the book at this link: Lenke However, I have no idea if it is relevant, I'm afraid, though perhaps somebody else does.Good luck! Gine.

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

There is also this one which I missed the first time around:Author: Spangen, Christian:Title: Leene-ætten fra Ringsaker; ættegrene fra Skjellungberg og Sollerud i Furnes; Hedmark-slektene Spangen, Enger, Busterud, Jørgensen-Maurud, Stensrud, Volden samt Svenkerud.Publisher/year: Myhr og Myhr-Græsby. 1939. [db].Here the title speaks of an Enger family who actually comes from Hedmark.This title I have found on http://home.online.no/~cfscheel/sl-index.htm where there are family history books of Norwegian or Danish families.Gine.

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

If you give names and birth dates or whatever you have got, maybe somebody can help you a little better - I can see that there are quite a few genealogical webpages (only in Norwegian, as far as I have seen) where there are people mentioned as coming from Hedmark and carrying the name Enger. Not surprisingly, as Rolf Steinar Bergli mentioned three Enger farms, but it may turn out that your ancestors are not first generation Enger.Again, good luck.Gine.

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Hei Gine and Rolf,Thanks for your replies. The family I am tracing is Severin Andersen and wife, Anne Fredriksdatter. I found their son, Anders Severinsen Enger, leaves Norway 1 Jul 1870 for Chicago. What is really strange is Severin is in the emigration records leaving Norway on 2 August 1878 - Stange to Chicago, but his name is Severin Gundersen and wife Anne Andersen. I know this is the correct person as in the 1880 US census he is in Chicago with his family and his name is once again Severa [sic] Anderson. I do not know where the Gundersen came, but other of his children use the name Enger in Chicago. That is why I wanted to know more about the name Enger in Stange. Severin Andersen was born 1 Oct 1823 in Stange, son of Anders Engebretsen and Mari Eriksdatter. Robert

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

If your Anders Severinsen is the one born in 1852 as the son of Severin Andersen and Anne Frederiksdtr (from the Vital Record Index on the FamilySearch website) he might be the one who is registered in the church records among those leaving Stange in this link: [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=uf04171814&gardpostnr=2189&personpostnr=2189&merk=2189#ovre>Lenke He is the only one I can find of that name and his age is right. It says that he leaves for Christiania in 1867 to become a shoemaker apprentice and it also says he came from the farm Sveen-Eie at the time. Was your ancestor a shoemaker?From the VRI it seems his parents had at least one other boy and a girl, Martinus (born 1846) and Frederika (born 1849, not found in 1865, see below). Martinus also went to Christiania to become a shoemaker according to the church records Lenke He left Stange in 1865 and is found in the 1865 census in the capital here LenkeThe rest of the family lives in Stange at this time Lenke and the father is also a shoemaker. The farm where they live is called Arstad Søndre and is in the parish of Ottestad.According to the VRI Syverin Andersen and Anne Frederiksdtr. married in 1846 in Stange. Anne's father's name was Frederik Svendsen. Anne was 21 years old and Severin was 22 (you probably already know this).The Enger name doesn't seem to enter into this so far.The people who lived on Arstad Søndre in 1801 can be found here Lenke They may or may not be connected to your family, but the last name Embretsen is a variant of Engebretsen. A local history/genealogy book (called a bygdebok in Norwegian. For more on those http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/bygdeen.htm) may give you some more answers, if there is one written for your area which I don't know. But Hedmark has a local history page here: http://www.hedmarkslekt.no/eindex.htm Thie Ancestors from Norway site may also be helpful

[Gjest Thor Bøhmer]

Norwegian family names are very difficult. The name Enger does not always point to a farm. It could also point to a small house. Enga, When Enga was taken as a family name, it could be Eng, Engen or Enger.Enga was normally a house connected to a farm. Therefore it is also often a shortening. The name could be like Arstadenga, Sveenenga etc.The family did not have to live very long on a place to take it as a family name. They merely had to 'walk through'. Many families changed names when they emigrated. Then some even took the name from the neighbour farm because that was a better name in English.The main familinames of that time was like Olsen, Jensen, Hansen, Amundsen etc.

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Mange takk! Much of this information is new. I had not seen the records of Anders and Martinus leaving Stange for Kristiania. You are correct, all the sons became shoemakers. Now that I am searching the name Enger in Chicago, I am finding many more names. For years I was searching Severinsen and finding nothing.Robert

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

According to the International Genealogical Index (also FamilySearch), Anders Ingebretsen married Marie Erichsdtr. in Vang in Hedmark in 1814. This might point to one or both of them having grown up in Vang, not in Stange. The original marriage record (or the films made by the Latterday Saints/ Mormons) could perhaps tell you more about where they came from.It is of course correct that a lot of people took on new names as they came to America and to find out why they chose a particular one like Enger may be for any of the reasons that Thor Bøhmer mentions - and a host of others.Gine.

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Thanks Gine, I had them married about 1815 in Stange, so now I should look toward Vang.Robert

[Gjest Gine Olsen]

Actually, the transcript from the church book says'ANDERS INGEBRITSEN   Male   Spouse:  MARIE ERICHSDR   Marriage:  11 MAR 1814   Vang, Hedmark, Norway Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. 'The Hedmark web site (link above) is in English - you may find somebody there to ask if your research does not progress.Good luck yet again,Gine.

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

This is really great! I can't thank you enough. I will pursue this further.Med vennlig hilsen, Robert

[Gjest Hans Myhre]

Hello Robert, Anders Ingebretsen and Mari Eriksdatter married in Van and their first child, Ingebreth was born on Aggerseie in Vang 1814. Their other children were born on Grimerudeie in Stange: Berte 1816, Erik 1817, Mari 1819, Anne 1821, Severin 1823 and Lisbeth 1839.You have Severin and family in 1865 Census here:Lenke

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Hei Hans! Tusen takk! I did not know that Anders Engebretsen and Mari Eriksdatter were from Vang. You have also given me two more children, Ingebreth and Anne that I did not know existed. The son of Severin Andersen, Anders Severinsen Enger, is the first of my family that I have found to emigrate to America in 1870. He was my great-grandfather's 1st cousin. Since I have found that the family of Severin Andersen used the name Enger in America, I have found four generations of this family in Chicago. I am very thankful to everyone on the Digitalarkivet who has been of assistance to me.Robert

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

May I ask one more question? I have another later family member, Anders Andersen, born 17 Nov 1865 in Aggerseie, Vang, Hedmark. How can I find out more information on this farm? What bygdebøk would it be listed in? Robert

[Gjest Hans Myhre]

There is no bygdebok containing information about Aggerseie.Robert, explore this site:http://www.hedmarkslekt.no/

[Gjest Robert L. Evensen]

Thanks for reminding me of this site. I have used it before. I am so thankful that much of it has been translated into English for us non-Norwegian speaking descendants. Robert