[#34632] Link to emmigrant lists

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

I have a recollection that a couple of years ago I found a link on your site to a digitized archive of emmigrants from Trondhiem. Since that time I have switched computers, lost the bookmark and am not able to find the link. I may be wrong about it being on this site. If it is on your site, please advise how to negotiate to it. If not, but you know where it is please advise. Since I do not read Norwegian, it is easy for me to loose track as I follow links. I have had good success doing research on your archive of 'Emmigrants out of Bergen from Voss community'. To get to that archive I have a link supplied by an American vosselag web site.

[Gjest Rune Thorstensen]

Is this what you are looking for?.Lenke Rune Thorstensen

[Gjest Berit Knudsen]

Hi Gary. If you for some reason should loose your links again take a look at the Database selector on top left side of this page. At the same blue line you will find the new Digitsed parish registers. It has just started and it will be more. I belive both thing can be of great help in your search.

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

I apologize in advance if I am not using your debate forum as intended, or not following the proper procedure to reply. I am really having trouble with the language. I can see that as an American I am in the minority of responders. My goal is to see if I can learn anything about my grandfather. It may be a lost cause. Family folklore has him deserting from the military just prior to coming to America. In the USA he went by the name of Andrew Klofstad. A unique last name in the USA. I do not know a farm name or parish in Norway. He called himself a Trondheimer. A last name that sounds like 'Ystgaard' was associated with his family. I have a photo of him taken by a photographer in Trondheim. Other family photos taken in Trondheim and Stenkjaer are merely labeled as Grandpa's brother or Grandpa's aunt, no names. His birth date is listed as January 1, 1862, but if he falsified his identity when he deserted from the military that could also be wrong. I have his application for US citizenship that states he entered the USA on May 16, 1887. I located a ship that arrived on that day in New York. I went backwards to find a ship that left Trondheim for Hull to connect with that ship. That is why I have been looking at the digitized emigration list from Trondheim. Yesterday I looked at all 25 year old males in the Trondheim Emigration list in spring 1887. I did not find a name that was suspect. NOW, if he did, indeed, desert from the military he may not necessarily have left Norway from Trondheim. Are there digitized emigration archives for the rest of the ports in Norway that were used at that time? Is there information on the location of military garrisons at that time? I have had great success in documenting my other three grandparents and their ancestors. I used the books 'Folk og Slekt i Trondenes' with great success. I am a relative of the head of the Ancestral Society in Harstad. On my mother's side the Bygedoks from Evanger parish near Voss have been a treasure of information. Using the digital archives I have located my maternal grandfather's emigration. I have 2300 names in my database. In 2004 we had fairy tale visits with families in Trondenes parish and in Voss. BUT, Andrew is a mystery. Thank you for listening. If any reader has wisdom to share, I would greatly appreciate it. Gary Klofstad, Wausau, Wisconsin, USA

[Gjest Harald Storaker]

I would guess a Norwegian spelling of the name could be Kløvstad. There is a Kløvstad farm in Inderøy parish, north of Trondheim. That is not far from Ystgård in Sparbu parish (Steinkjer). Perhaps you could get a look-up on Kløvstad farm in INDERØY bygdebok.

[Gjest Rune Thorstensen]

This is not your Andrew, but perhaps related? [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=44881&merk=44881#ovre>Lenke

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

Harold, your assistance has helped me tremendously. I am 99 percent sure I have found him in the 1865 census archive. I searched around for quite a while and then went to a generic search on the first name 'And', assuming he changed a name such as Anders to Andrew. I searched on all names in each parish and found a child born in 1862 in the Sparbu parish, domicile Hallkjaern (Plads). When I viewed the family two things clicked. There is an older brother named Karl. I have a photo that says Grandpa's brother Karl. In the census the father's name is Aage. I have another photo labeled grandpa's brother with a very smudged name on the back that can now be made out to be Ole Aagesen. This person is likely a brother born after the 1865 census. Paydirt - the next step is to hit a Bygebok. I am sincerely appreciative to all of you that responsed. The forums are a great way to involve many interested parties. Gary Klofstad

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

Now I am getting greedy. I would still be interested to see if I can figure out how he got to the USA. Are there digital archives of emigrantion lists for the other port cities in Norway that would have been serviced by ships traveling to Hull? Where were the military garrisons in the late 1800s? I am still looking at the possibility that he boarded a ship at a location near where he was in the military. This assumes that the desertion family legend is true. Thanks, Gary

[Gjest Harald Storaker]

If he deserted the military he probably was a sailor and jumped a ship abroad, in England or directly in US. He will then not be in Norwegian emigrant lists.I do not know if there are seamen's rolls for Trondheim. The Stavanger rolls are online.

[Gjest Harald Storaker]

I guess he had not joined the Army or Navy. But he got the draft and never turned up, Many young Norwegian sailors became emigrants in that way in those days. They do not show up in emigrant lists from Norwegian ports.

[Gjest Rune Thorstensen]

Hi Gary.If you found the right man in Sperbo 1865, I think this is his christening listed in Family Search.LenkeI also found theese children listed . Morten chr. 08.06.1851, Johan Christian chr. 06.04.1849, Ole Christian chr.07.04.1847, Maren Petrine chr. 27.05.1855, Kristofa Mariane chr.18.09.1864, Anton Sefanias chr. 14.06.1857, Carl Martinus chr. 30.01.1853, Carl Martinus chr. 11.09.1859. Rune Thorstensen

[Gjest Oddrun Thomassen Flovik]

Maybe this is the proof you need to be sure that you have found the right family.Sorry that this link direct you to a norwegian site, but there you will see that Carl Martinius Aagesen was living at the farm Ystgaardsplasshttp://www.ogndal.net/homepage/arild/ettelysning// Oddrun

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

Once again you folks are providing me with excellent information. If they exist, please provide me with web links to digitized archives of Emigration lists for the following cities: Christiania, Christiansund, Bergen, Stavanger, and Aalesund. According to information on norwayheritage.com these are ports that had ships connecting to Hull. I am still hoping I can find him in an Emigration archive. Thank you all again. My family is thrilled with the break through in locating documentation that shows Andrew as a person living in Norway. I am looking forward to digging into the Bygdeboks.

[Gjest harald Storaker]

Lenke

[Gjest Gary Klofstad]

I worked through the emigration lists from all of the ports and did not find any evidence of my grandfather Andrew Klostad or Andreas Aagesen or anything resembling these names. It was worth a try. I have found only one of my 4 grandparents in the digitized emigration archives. This has been a fun project with very fruitful results. I look forward to the next steps. Thank you, again, to all who responded. Gary Klofstad