[#37494] Vestre Aker absorbed by Oslo

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

In what year was Vestre Aker absorbed or annexed by Oslo? And how do I find the current location and name of a 'gard' that was listed in the 1865 census of Vestre Aker?

[Gjest John O. Svenning]

Oslo and Aker were joined in 1948. You will have to give the name of the 'gard' you are looking for to get help finding it. Regards John

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

Thanks John. The 'gard' name was Korsvolden, in Nydalen school district. There are at least 2 other 'gards' named Korsvolden in the 1865 census but they're in the Hougen (?) school district. I keep putting gard in quotes because I'm not certain it was a farm, in the literal sense. In the 1865 census my great-great grandfather's profession was Staaltraadarbeider, but I haven't found a translation for that in my dictionary, and have been told he was a blacksmith. The other men on the place have similiarly spelled occupations or titles.

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

Wait a minute. 1948? So an 1875 census for Vestre Aker could still be forthcoming and I shouldn't worry that I can't find my ancestors in the 1875 Oslo census?

[Gjest Ketil Harbek]

'Staaltraadarbeider' means 'steel wire (thread) worker', so he might well be educated as a blacksmith.In Nydalen there was a nail (and other iron goods) factory (Christiania Spigerverk), and a lot of other industrial activities. He probably worked at one of those places.And yes - you should not worry that you do not find him in the 1875 Oslo census, if he lived in Vestre Aker.

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

Thanks Ketil. They definitely stayed in Vestre Aker until 1883.

[Gjest Torgeir Kvalvaag]

Meg: As you don't mention your ancestors' name I'm just guessing that it is one of the families mentioned here:[url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60218a&gardpostnr=351&merk=351#ovre>LenkeI suppose the two wives, Marthe and Kirsti Kristoffersd. are sisters. (Just guessing.)Some information on Christiania Spigerverk is available on the net, but unfortuneately only in Norwegian, lik this one:

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

Torgeir: That's the place. Kirsti is my great-great grandmother. I also believe that Marthe is her sister but the people that may have been able to tell me are no longer living. My father and his siblings and cousins know next to nothing about the family connections in Norway. There is so much that I have learned about my ancestors and their families on this very website. I am very grateful. Thanks for your time and insight. Meg

[Gjest Torgeir Kvalvaag]

I suppose this is your great-great grandmother:[url="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=100023261742&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>LenkeIf so this is her sister Marthe:LenkeIn the 1865 census their parents were living here:LenkeTheir mother has got a different name, but I'm quite sure it's the correct people because Kirsti's and Marthe's sister Margrethe is living with their parents. You'll find Margrethe's baptism here:LenkeI guess this is your great-great grandfather Ole Nielsen:LenkeHis father and brother were in 1865 living here:

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

Hei Togier thank you for all the help. Kirsti and Marthe's parents were Christopher Andersen and Kirsti Hansdatter, Magrethe was their sister and they had a brother, Anders. However, Ole's father was Niels Halvorsen and his mother was Berte Brynildsdatter. Although the census doesn't indicate it, the surname Ole came to use in the USA was the farm name where his mother was raised, Framstad. Tusen takk! Meg

[Gjest Meg Lambalot]

I still don't know if Korsvolden was a proper farm or a neighborhood or an estate in 1865 or where to find it in Oslo today.

[Gjest Torgeir Kvalvaag]

If you zoom in on this map you can imagine Korsvoll between Kringsjå and Frysja. It's just a short distance north from Nydalen where Spigerverket was.[url="http://www.trafikanten.no/grafikk/Linjekart/busslinjene_os_031004.jpg>LenkeAnd if you zoom in on this map you should be able to recognize the place where Tåsenveien and Maridalsveien meet.LenkeThis is the area where a group of 'husmannsplasser' were situated, forming the Korsvoll. Korsvoll was in itself not a farm, but husmannsplasser belonging to several different farms, according to this local history site

[Gjest Torgeir Kvalvaag]

I might add that 'marka' goes all the way from Korsvoll and northern outskirts of Oslo to Hadeland and Gran. So they only had to cross through the woods to get from one place to the other. This is today a popular trail for skiers (cross country of course.)Torgeir.

[Gjest Torgeir Kvalvaag]

Allow me a second 'amendment': Today we normally travel between let's say Korsvoll and Gran through Nittedalen, another place/area you'll find in the 1865 census.Torgeir.