[#76172] help to read archive entry

[Gjest ole vidar nilsen]

hi there i need some help to read a entry hope someone can read itLenkeitem 21 first page marriage between ole helgesen and kari gulbrandsdatter i cant read the farm names at the end of their names and ole helgesen has something else written after the farm name if anyone could please help i may find the birth entry for these twoole vidar

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

Not very visible, but this is how I read the entry:Ungkarl Ole Helgesen Lillebuen fra Miærdahl 27 Aar, Pige Mari GulbrandsD: Lia fra Do., 23 Aar. Forældre: Gulbrand Olsen Buen og Hellik Johnsen Buen. (Viet) 3. julii.And they should be found in the register on pages 726 and 102.

[Gjest Roger Fossum]

He did not come from Miærdahl, but Hiærdahl. Here he is in the 1801 census: LenkeRoger Fossum

[Gjest Anne Tonby]

They are from Hiærdal(Hjartdal/Gransherad) Lillebuen and Lia are farms in Jondalen. Jondalen was a part of Gransherad at that time.Gulbran Olsen Buen and Hellik Johnsen Buen are witness to the marriage.

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

They're both right. And Gulbrand and Hellik are of course witnesses, not parents. (Stupid of me to concentrate on the blurred writing and not take a look at the well printed headline!)

[Gjest ole vidar nilsen]

thank you but i have a question ole helgesen should be the son of helge .... but in the link to the 1801 census it is ole heljessen is this a typo or was the name changedole vidar

[Gjest ole vidar nilsen]

and one other thing is ole helgesen's wife name mari or kari as i thought

[Gjest Morten I. Wedege]

As I read the entry, the wife's first name is Kari, not Mari.The name Helge could also be spelled Helje (or Hellje); different spelling of the same name was not uncommon in Norway, at least to the beginning of the 20th century.

[Gjest Per Håkon Christiansen]

It is Kari. Not so easy to see, but if you compare to No 17, you can see it relatively clearly.The link you made is not permanent, and vanished after 20 minutes or so; with permanent links, it is much easier for us to make comparisons. As Morten points out, Helge or Helje (Hellje) is a matter of how the letter 'g' after a vowel is being pronounced locally.

[Gjest ole vidar nilsen]

hi again in entry 3 and the link to 1801 census we find ole heljessen with parents helje ostenssen and thore olsdatter numbers 1889 and 1890 so would osten heljessen and margit anunsdatter numbers 1885 and 1886 be helje ostenssen's parents and 1887 and 1888 be his sisters ole vidar

[Gjest ole vidar nilsen]

hello Lenke are ole helgesen's parents also on this farm and in this census

[Gjest Øystein Ask]

Yes, Østen Høljesen and Margitte Aanonsdt. Buen baptize a son named Hølje 9. jan. 1768:Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Hjartdal, Ministerialbok nr. I 3 (1727-1775), Fødte og døpte 1768, side 108. Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7951&idx_id=7951&uid=ny&idx_side=-111>Lenke Permanent bildelenke:

[Gjest Øystein Ask]

Østen and Margitte were m. 8. mar. 1767:Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Hjartdal, Ministerialbok nr. I 4 (1727-1795), Ekteviede 1767, side 45. Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7952&idx_id=7952&uid=ny&idx_side=-46>Lenke Permanent bildelenke:

[Gjest Ron Berg-Iverson]

Here is more information from FSØsten Heljesen f.1741 Margitte Aanonsen chr.23 May 1741 Buen Parents Aanon Johannesen & Aslaug Heljesen married 8 March 1767 Buen Helje chr.9 Jan.1768 Buen Aanon ( Anun ) chr.13 Jan.1770 Buen Ellev chr.23 Jan.1774 Buen Asloug chr.17 Mar.1776 Buen Niels chr.10 May 1778 Buen Margitte chr.14 Oct.1780 Buen Aagot chr.13 July 1783 Buen Gro chr.10 Sept.1786 Buen