Amerikansk familie søker røtter

[Albanista]

Om Erik: "Segnetgraver Delvis Fattigunderstøttelse"

 

Men hvor ble det av Erik Knutssøn? Og barna deres? Finner dem ikke i de nyere folketellingene.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Barn av Knut Aadsen Gjelle og Cecilie Sjursdatter.

 

Aad,1832.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MJH5-8BZ/p1

 

Guro,1837.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MJCF-Q1B/p1

 

Erik,1842.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MJSX-2HM/p1

 

"Din" Knut,1854.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MJZH-T2G/p1

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Eirik Knudsen Gjelle (bror til Knut Knudsen Gjelle) og Martha Arnesdatter ble gift 13 juni 1871.Brudgommens far:Knud Aadsen.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverk...ny&idx_side=-84

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverk...70104620184.jpg

 

Erik Knudsen Gjelle og Martha Arnesdatter døper datteren Guri 18 juni 1876.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverk...y&idx_side=-195

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverk...70104610488.jpg

 

Og Martha,døpt 29 feb 1880.

 

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverk...y&idx_side=-242

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverk...70104610535.jpg

 

Av tellingen 1875 ser jeg at de også hadde sønnen Knud,født ca 1869

http://www.digitalar...6&merk=726#ovre

 

Martha Arnesdatter er enke i 1900.

http://www.digitalar...&merk=7433#ovre

 

Finner Erik Knudsen Gjelle død 16 sept 1900.

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=VOSS1890&gardpostnr=1029&merk=1029#ovre

[Sverre Horvei]

Du er ganske sikkert på riktig gård.

Far til Knut Knutsen, Gardbrukar Knut Aadson Gjelle, døde 13.10.1860.

Se l.nr. 60 her: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11778&idx_id=11778&uid=ny&idx_side=-200

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Ja,det var det dødsfallet jeg fant i innlegg 25.

[Albanista]

Status.

 

On my Grandpa Sather side:

 

Gullick Sather (Sore Aurdahl, Valdras) - birthday year 1858 - FUNNET i USA og i Norge

Dorthea Fosheim (Kristiniana) - birthday year 1859 - Funnet i USA

 

On my Grandma Sather side:

 

Harry Gunderson - birthday year 1862 - FUNNET i USA, ikke i Norge - trolig født i USA.

Olena Wik (sic, Olina) - (1866) - FUNNET i USA, ikke i Norge. Født i USA også?

 

En (dårlig) kandidat?)

 

http://digitalarkivet.no/...erk=3209

 

On my Grandpa Edison side:

 

C. Knute Edison (Vasserangen) (1854) - FUNNET i USA og Norge.

Margit Herbjornson (1862) - Funnet i USA. Født her eller der? Og heter hun Mari eller Margit/Marget?

 

On my Grandma Edison side:

 

Knut Holten (1854) - Ikke funnet. Fant en Knut O. Holte i Norge, men rimelig sikker på at det er feil.

Syneva Peterson (1855) - Ikke funnet, men virker å være mye Syneva fra Hordaland?

[Kurt Østbye]

Både Margit og Oline var født i Norge. Oline immigrert i 1880. Harry i innlegg 6 var født i Wisconsin av norske foreldre.

[Albanista]

Både Margit og Oline var født i Norge. Oline immigrert i 1880. Harry i innlegg 6 var født i Wisconsin av norske foreldre.

 

Stemmer det, er så mye detaljer at det går i ball for en jypling som meg!

 

Uansett, da blir det litt lettere (forhåpentligvis) å finne dem "i Norge" også.

[Arne Solås]

Mary/ Margit var vel født i Wisconsin?

 

http://trempealeau.wigenweb.org/histories/1917trempco/chapter15/e.htm

[Arne Solås]

Mulig at dette er hennes familie i 1880: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

 

 

De bodde samme sted i 1870.

 

Det er vel og samme familie vi finner bosatt i Chimney Rock, Trempealeau i 1900. Moren skal da være født i mars 1840 og ha immigrert i 1854.

 

Ser at lenken ikke gikk inn så jeg får gjøre et forsøk på å "klippe og lime":

 

Household:

 

Name RelationMarital StatusGenderRaceAgeBirthplaceOccupationFather's BirthplaceMother's BirthplaceHans HENDERSON Self M Male W 50 NORWAY Farming NOR NOR Julia HENDERSON Wife M Female W 41 NORWAY Keeping House NOR NOR Henry H. HENDERSON Son S Male W 21 WI Farm Laborer NOR NOR Lizzie HENDERSON Dau S Female W 19 WI At Home NOR NOR Anna HENDERSON Dau S Female W 15 WI At School NOR NOR Betsy H. HENDERSON Dau S Female W 13 WI At Home NOR NOR Samuel HENDERSON Son S Male W 9 WI NOR NOR Gunder HENDERSON Son S Male W 7 WI NOR NOR John HENDERSON Son S Male W 5 WI NOR NOR Julia S. HENDERSON Dau S Female W 2 WI NOR NOR

Source Information:

Census PlaceBurnside, Trempealeau, WisconsinFamily History Library Film 1255448NA Film Number T9-1448Page Number 58B

[Kurt Østbye]

Ja, det er nok feil fødested på Margit i US census for 1900. Her er familien i 1905:

 

Wisconsin State Censuses, 1895 and 1905

Name: Margit Edison

Census Date: 1 Jun 1905

Residence County: Trempealeau

Residence state: Wisconsin

Locality: Chimney Rock

Birth Location: Wisconsin

Marital Status: Married

Gender: Female

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863

Race: White

Relation: Wife

Spouse's Name: C K Edison

Household Members: Name Age

C K Edison 50

Margit Edison 42

Ed Edison 23

Cecelia Edison 21

Charles Edison 18

George Edison 16

Bertie Edison 13

Horace Edison 12

Cloner Edison 8

Myron Edison 3

[Pamela N-I]

Hello! 

 

I, too, am looking for ancestors from my Grandpa Sather side. Gullick Sather and Thea Dorthea Fosheim are my great-grandparents.

 

I do believe Gullick Sather's parents are Halvor (or Halvord) Halvorsen (my family records his name as: Halvor Halvorsen Sundheim Sather) and Ranghild Nilsdatter of Ulnes. Here is their family's Ulnes census report from 1865: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/rural-residence/bf01038074004329

 

However I cannot find anything about Thea in Kristiania/Christiania/Oslo or nearby in Norway. Some of my extended family in Wisconsin and Minnesota have written memories of Thea. Her gravestone lists her birth year as 1859: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91514750/thea-dorthea-sather.  My family record lists it as 25 April 1859. 

 

I've been told her parents are Kristian Olsen and Maren Evensdatter Fosheim.

 

My mother's cousin remembers that Thea was close to her father. As Thea left Norway at the age of 18, she said goodbye to her mother and ran off before she could face her father. But he was waiting at the ship for her. Thea said that after saying goodbye she never saw her parents again.

 

Sadly, too, I cannot yet find her name in ship registers. If the birth year and family recollection are correct, she would have left Norway in 1877 (or early in the year of 1878). 

 

I would be grateful for any help you may have!

 

Pamela N-I

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is some info that might help guide the search. Are you mostly interested in the ancestors of Thea?

 

Thea Dorthea Sather

in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:Thea Dorthea Sather

Gender:Female

Birth Date:Apr 1858

Birth Place:Oslo kommune, Oslo fylke, Norway

Death Date:25 Sep 1942

Death Place:Wisconsin, United States of America

Cemetery:Trinity Lutheran Church Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:Mondovi, Buffalo County, Wisconsin, United States of America

Has Bio?:N

Spouse:Gullick Halvorson Sather

Children:Lillian Mabel GregersonTheodore Norman SatherRagna LarsonAnna Marie HoveyMartin Gulick SatherChristian Magnus SatherOlaf G SatherGilbert Theodor SatherHenry G Cornelius SatherEdwin Sigvald Sather

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/44946882:60525?ssrc=pt&tid=40135345&pid=20428705559

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91514750/thea-dorthea-sather

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Thea Kristiansdr Fassum

 in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969

Name:Thea Kristiansdr Fassum

Gender:Female

Spouse:Gulik H Sather

Child:Gilbert Theodor Sather

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=ELCAbmd&indiv=try&h=303090044

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Not a lot of candidates leaving Oslo in 1877 to 1879 named Thea. This is about the only one. Birth year would be about 1861 since she is leaving in 1878 and is 17 years old. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000436339

[Ragnhild K. Brænd]

1865: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038075003360

Birth, # 251: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061108040213

Emigration: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000444471 and # 7: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060425090255

Endret Januar 15, 2022 av Ragnhild K. Brænd

[Carl Nilsen]

17 minutter siden, Ragnhild K. Brænd skrev:

? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038075003360

Birthdate is 1858-04-25:

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/574/75

[Anton Hagelee]

Probably her in 1875 Census 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052106003901

 

Her emigration date seems to be about 1881 to 1883 from the US Census data.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPV6-2L8

Endret Januar 15, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Carl Nilsen]

Obit at findagrave lists her being survived by her sister «Mrs Ole Rebury» in Minneapolis. I find the couple «Ole and Olea Rebue» in Minneapolis in 1895 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQDZ-Z33
 

This should be Ole Nilsen Rebne, who married Dorthea’s sister Olea/Oline Kristiansdatter Fosheim in 1889, no 6:

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/6135/93

 

Birth of their daughter Maren matches Milla in census:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000024425536

 

Emigration:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001039226

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001039227

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001039228

 

Grave of Olea:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124992232/olea-fossheim-rebney

Endret Januar 15, 2022 av Carl Nilsen

[Anton Hagelee]

Good finds. There is a Family Tree on Ancestry that seems to fit well with the data posted. Except there were two Dorthea' s in the family. The first born in 1856, but died in 1857, and  the one found by Carl born in 1858 who is the one who emigrated to America.

 

Dorthea Christiansdatter

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Dorthea Christiansdatter

Gender:Female

Birth Date:29 Jun 1856

Baptism Date:24 Aug 1856

Baptism Place:Vestre Aker, Oslo, Oslo, Norway

Father:Christian Olsen

Mother:Maren Ernstdatter

FHL Film Number:125844

Reference ID:Bk26 145

 

Nr. 195 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060301050914

 

Dorthea Christiansdatter

in the Norway, Select Burials, 1666-1927

Name:Dorthea Christiansdatter

Gender:Female

Burial Date:01 Jun 1857

Burial Place:Vestre Aker, Oslo, Oslo, Norway

FHL Film Number:1259721

Reference ID:item 1 p336

 

Nr. 80 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060208030343

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Januar 15, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The 1875 Census lists the mother as Maren Erntsdatter born about 1821 in Drøbak. Possibly this Maren. 

 

 

Maren Mathea Rømer

 in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938

Name:Maren Mathea Rømer

Gender:Kvinnelig

Baptism Age:0

Record Type:dåp (Baptism)

Birth Date:24 mai 1821 (24 May 1821)

Baptism Date:1 jul 1821

Baptism Place:Drøbak, Akershus, Norge (Norway)

Baptism Municipality:Drøbak

Father:Ernst Peter Rømer

Mother:Agnethe Andersdatr.

 

Nr. 8 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061026010466

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Likely the marriage of Maren Erntsdatter and Christian Olsen in 1843.

 

Maren Mathea Ernstsdr

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Maren Mathea Ernstsdr[Maren Mathea Romer]

Gender:Female

Age:22

Birth Date:1821

Marriage Date:26 Aug 1843

Marriage Place:Røyken, Buskerud, Norway

Father:Ernst Peter Romer

Spouse:Christian Olsen

FHL Film Number:278214

Reference ID:146

 

Christian Olsen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Christian Olsen

Gender:Male

Age:25

Birth Date:1818

Marriage Date:26 Aug 1843

Marriage Place:Røyken, Buskerud, Norway

Father:Ole Christensen

Spouse:Maren Mathea Ernstsdr

FHL Film Number:278214

Reference ID:146

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3183025:60095

 

Nr. 15 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111020543

 

 

 

 

Endret Januar 16, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Based on the data above, this is likely the baptism record for Christian Olsen. 

 

Christian Olesen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Christian Olesen

Gender:Male

Birth Date:02 Nov 1817

Baptism Date:7 des 1817 (7 Dec 1817)

Baptism Place:Røyken, Buskerud, Norway

Father:Ole Christensen

Mother:Malene Christensdr

FHL Film Number:124115

Reference ID:1538

 

Nr. 21 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061214620018

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

This is the  marriage of Ernst Petter Rømer and Agnethe Andersdatter in 1816.  Birth year is 1791.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002744823

 

 

 

Endret Januar 16, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is a Ernst Rømer born art 1791 in the 1801 Census. Father is also Ernst Rømer and mother is Ane Maria Dorothea Nøymann .  Place is Oslo. Father is a goldsmith. Son Ernst also had that occupation. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01058232003420