Trying to find parents of Karen Erichdatter b.1797

[Gregg Westling]

I'm trying to to find data on Karen Erichsdatter's(b. 1797)parents. I found the family in the 1801 census for Aggershuus/Akkershus-Ascher/Asker census as Family 66 at the Baerums Iron Works. The father name is Erich Carlsen ((Runge) -I don't know what this is about)and the mother is Anne Jensdatter. Both are shown to be born in 1772.

 

1801 census result:

 

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f18010220&personpostnr=4527&merk=4527

 

I believe that this is their marriage record:

 

Source information: Akershus county, Asker, Parish register (official) nr. I 3 (1767-1807), Marriage records 1792-1794, page 192.

Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&i...

Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061114010371....

 

Question: There are two dates, 14 Mar and 1 Jun. Are they the announcement of engagement and the marriage?

 

I think that this is Karen's birth record

 

Source information: Akershus county, Asker, Parish register (official) nr. I 3 (1767-1807), Birth and baptism records 1797, page 140.

Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&i...

Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061114010319....

 

I've been trying to locate Karen's parents birth records but have not had any success. It looks like the priest changed at the end of 1771 and the new handwriting has taken a turn for the worst.

 

P.S. In these forums what does "NOK" mean?

 

Any help would be most appreciated.

[Anne Minken]

I will put in some better links, to make it more easy for people to help you.

The marriage: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&idx_id=7730&uid=ny&idx_side=-192

As you supposed, 1 Jun is the wedding date and March 14 the announcement date.

 

The birth register: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&idx_id=7730&uid=ny&idx_side=-140

Runge is a surname of German origin. Maybe he or rather some of his ancestors came from the German lands to work at the Iron works.

[Berit Knudsen]

Engaged March 14., married June 1. 1794 in Asker kirke batch. Erich Carlsen B.jv. and Anne Jensdt. Schui(Skui) Witnesses Hans Skui and Arne Horni. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&idx_id=7730&uid=ny&idx_side=-192

 

Karen, Haslum krk. May 7. 1797 Erich Carls. Rugge´s daughter born at Bærum Jernverk May 1., mother Anne Jens. Witn.: Anne Ols., Ingeborg Jens. Xsten Peders..., Ingeborg Tommes., Andreas Jacobs... All from Jernverket. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7730&idx_id=7730&uid=ny&idx_side=-140

Take a look at the next child Ragnild. Her father Herman Carls. and a witness Christen Rugge Jernv.

 

Anne Jensdt., daughter of Jens Hansen, nordre Skui (+1808, 64 y.) and his first wife Else Pedersdt.(+1789)-(children: Nils, Anne, Marie, Ingeborg and Tore).

[Berit Knudsen]

I belive the name is Ruge, not Rugge. Another place it is written Ryppe, but I know the name is Rype.

 

Possibly the bapt. of Erich C. Ruge 26/1 1772 Bragernes http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8451&idx_id=8451&uid=ny&idx_side=-100 The father was "skoleholder".

 

and his brother Christen C. Ruge http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9381&idx_id=9381&uid=ny&idx_side=-270 (born before his parents marriage, father sergeant)

 

The marriage of their parents http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9362&idx_id=9362&uid=ny&idx_side=-113

[Berit Knudsen]

Herman Ruge 1801 http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=12&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=5084&personpostnr=62076&merk=62076#ovre Christian Ruge 1801 http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=5097&personpostnr=62134&merk=62134#ovre

[Gregg Westling]

Thanks to Anne and Berit.

 

Erich Carlsen's name was indeed Ruge. I found on Ancestry the Erich Carlsen Ruge's father and mother were Carl Friedrick Ruge(1735-1800) and Ragnild Erichsdatter(1720-?). Carl Friedrick Ruge's Parents were Herman Ruge(1706-1764) and Emerentze Kaare(1708-1745). I found this article about Herman Ruge - URL - http://snl.no/.nbl_biografi/Hermann_Ruge/utdypning. It explains that he was a priet and shows his father also as a priest.

 

By the way, What is the NOK.

[Berit Knudsen]

Where have you seen NOK?

[Gregg Westling]

I've seen "NOK" in many posts and it's not money. I thought it might be something like LOL (laugh out loud) or IMO (in my opinion), but based in Norwegion words.

[Berit Knudsen]

Sorry. You need to find one.

[Gregg Westling]

Here are a few/

 

I'll do some searches in other areas, but there is NOK difficult, yes

Does this accuracy, so it will be NOK a hefty diskjusjon

My purpose was "precious" NOK, I tried to insist on it as for me

But a copy of the grounds for eviction can I NOK get to tomorrow

If someone is seen in the cold room is NOK main reason another

Most have a NOK completely different impression of this.

it is likely he or she does not well NOK qualified to led the mentioned activity

[Berit Knudsen]

Are you translating from norwegian to english with the help of a program ?

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Nok usually means: Enough, some or another.

 

 

Here are a few/

 

I'll do some searches in other areas, but there is NOK difficult, yes

Does this accuracy, so it will be NOK a hefty diskjusjon

My purpose was "precious" NOK, I tried to insist on it as for me

But a copy of the grounds for eviction can I NOK get to tomorrow

If someone is seen in the cold room is NOK main reason another

Most have a NOK completely different impression of this.

it is likely he or she does not well NOK qualified to led the mentioned activity

[Gregg Westling]

Thanks again to all who assisted with this thread.