Islensk tekst

[Armand]

Hej igen!

Jeg har nu en islensk tekst att översette till engelsk.

Kan noen göre en oversettning till EN eller NO, DA , SV var saa god?

Takk paa forhaand!

Med venlig hilsen

Armand

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

Hej igen!

Jeg har nu en islensk tekst att översette till engelsk.

Kan noen göre en oversettning till EN eller NO, DA , SV var saa god?

Takk paa forhaand!

Med venlig hilsen

Armand

 

 

Du har lagt det ut som bilete på gif-fil. Det hadde vore enklare om du kunne legge ut teksten som rein tekst. Det same gjeld den svenske teksten i den andre førespurnaden din ("Historiska berättelser").

Det er også ein del feil i begge tekstane, særleg ord som er samanskrivne (mellomrom manglar).

[Armand]

Hej Ivar!

Just det! Jeg havde ogsaa maerket vad Du siger om den svensk texten (manglende mellomrom) men jeg har klart det og redan sendt min oversettning.

Unskuld för formatet av den islensk text men jeg kan ikke göre det paa ett annat sett.

Jeg haaber att faa allgivel ett svar.

Mange takk.

 

Armand

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

Teksten er henta frå Islandsk wikipedia (evtentuelt er begge henta ordrett frå same kjelde):

http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3n_Loftsson

 

Google Translate gjev det meste av innhaldet, men med ein del "maskinmessige" omsetjingar....

[Armand]

Takk saa mycket daa för svaret men jeg kan ikke praesentere en saadan oversettning.

Jon Loftsson - Áviágrip

12th century, Iceland, Rangárþing

Jon Loftsson (1124 November 1, 1197) was an Icelandic chieftain of 12 century and considered as the most chief country in his time. He was a descendant of Oddi son Lofts Sæmundsson the Point, which was the son of Sustainable Development, and Thora (d. about 1175) salary daughter of Magnus Barefoot of Norway. He grew up in Konungahella íNoregi to 1135, but then went to Iceland with his parents, who lived Isto-Dal Eyjafjöll, and later the Point in District after Eyjólfur Lofts brother died in 1158.

 

Jon Loftsson was great political mettle and went Medora priesthood in Rangárþing. He was considered the wisest man of the land, was vinsællog was very often turn to him to judge the issues and reconcile people. He was þóharður a corner to take place in previous cases (1179) gave him Þorlákur Skálholt hard resistance. There was a deal of the church claim umforræði of churches and Jon won victory in the dispute, if the church would cause more later and breaking off the secular authority.

 

At this time, the ecclesiastical power and secular power highly integrated and father John and grandfather were priests, but he himself was a deacon aðvígslu. He also founded a monastery at Keldur but varskammlíft. Oddi was much academic and cultural center. In 1181 Rev. Paul Sölvason searched in Reykholti assistance Jon contention Hvammsfjörður-shower and þvingaðiJón service to make reconciliation and invited him instead to foster sonhans Snorri, who was then three years old. Snorri grew up in the Point to 19 years of age and hlautþar their education.

 

Woman Jon was Halldóra Brandsdóttir and they had tvöbörn, Solveig woman Gudmund Griss Ámundason at Thingvellir and grandmother Gissur Þorvaldsson and Sæmundur Jonsson chieftainships Mann at the Point. Jon had also nokkrarfrillur and with them several children. Known are the Paul Bishop of Skálholtiog Worm Wide suppress instrument. Their mother was Sally Þórhallsdóttir sister Þorlákur

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Kan noen :

1) förbedre den engelsken text

2) fylle og oversette det som mangler

Mvh

Armand

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

Først... eg kan ikkje islandsk; eg er heller ikkje så stø i den stilvaløren av engelsk som er best eigna til å fortelje om 1100-talet.....

Men, sidan ingen annan har freista, så kastar eg meg ut i det.

 

Áviágrip (Æviágrip) means something like biography (or literally, "life excerpt")

 

Jón Loftsson (1124 – 1. nóvember 1197) var íslenskur goðorðsmaður á 12. öld og talinn mesti höfðingi landsins á sinni tíð. Hann var af ætt Oddaverja, sonur Lofts Sæmundssonar í Odda, sem var sonur Sæmundar fróða, og Þóru (d. um 1175) laundóttur Magnúsar berfætts Noregskonungs. Hann ólst upp í Konungahellu í Noregi til 1135, en fór þá til Íslands með foreldrum sínum, sem bjuggu í Stóra-Dal undir Eyjafjöllum, og síðar í Odda á Rangárvöllum eftir að Eyjólfur bróðir Lofts lést 1158.

Jon Loftsson (b.1124 - d. 1 November 1197) was an Icelandic chieftain of the 12 century and considered as the greatest leader in the country of his time.

He was of the Oddaverja family (clan), son of Loft Sæmundsson at Odda, who was son of Sæmundur fróði (Sæmundur the Learned), and Þóra (d. about 1175),

illigitimate daughter of [king] Magnus Berrføtt [old norse:Magnús berfœttr, modern English: Magnus Barefoot] of Norway. He was raised in Konungahella in Norway to 1135, and then went to Iceland with his parents, who settled in Stóra-Dal (literally "Great Dale") under Eyafjöll (mountains), and later at Odda at Rangárvellir when Eyolfur, brother of Loft, died in 1158.

 

Jón Loftsson var mikill stjórnmálaskörungur og fór með öll goðorð í Rangárþingi. Hann var talinn vitrasti maður landsins, var vinsæll og var mjög oft leitað til hans til að dæma í málum og sætta menn. Hann var þó harður í horn að taka og í staðamálum fyrri (1179) veitti hann Þorláki helga Skálholtsbiskupi harða mótspyrnu. Þar var tekist á um kröfu kirkjunnar um forræði yfir kirkjustöðum og vann Jón sigur í þeirri deilu, þótt kirkjuvaldið hefði betur síðar og brytist undan hinu veraldlega valdi.

Jon Loftsson had a great political mettle and aquired all the "goðorð" *) in Rangárthing (Rangá district or county). He was considered the wisest man of the country, was friendly and popular, and he was very often asked to judge in cases and reconcile people. He was, though, "harður í horn að taka" **) and in the former "Staðamál" (a case in 1179) he gave hard resistance to Þorlákur helgi ("the holy" - later canonized), bishop of Skálhaolt. The fight was about the right to manage churches and church properties, and Jon won the case, however, later the Church continued the case and broke away from the secular rule.

 

*) a "goðorð" was originally a combined position of (secular) leader/chief and heathen priest; after introduction of christianity (approx. 1000) the position was secular.

**) this seems to be a regular expression in Icelanding, something like "being as hard as nails" in English.

 

 

Á þessum tíma var kirkjuvald og veraldlegt vald mjög samtvinnað og faðir og afi Jóns voru prestar en sjálfur var hann djákni að vígslu. Hann stofnaði líka klaustur á Keldum á Rangárvöllum en það var skammlíft. Í Odda var mikið fræða- og menningarsetur. Árið 1181 leitaði séra Páll Sölvason í Reykholti liðsinnis Jóns í deilum við Hvamm-Sturlu og þvingaði Jón Sturlu til að ganga til sátta en bauð honum í staðinn að fóstra Snorra son hans, sem þá var þriggja ára. Snorri ólst upp í Odda til 19 ára aldurs og hlaut þar menntun sína.

At this time, the ecclesiastical power and secular power were highly intertwingled, and the father and grandfather of Jon were both clergy, while he himself was a deacon of dedication. He also founded a monastery at Keldur, but this was short-lived. Oddi was a center of academic knowledge and culture. In year 1181 clergy Paul Sölvason in Reykholti sought Jon's assistance in the case against Hvamm-Sturlu (Sturla at Hvamm) and Jon forced Sturla to enter into a compromise and offered him to foster his son Snorri, who was then three years old. Snorri grew up at Oddi to 19 years of age and received his education there.

 

Kona Jóns var Halldóra Brandsdóttir og áttu þau tvö börn, Solveigu konu Guðmundar gríss Ámundasonar á Þingvöllum og ömmu Gissurar Þorvaldssonar, og Sæmund Jónsson goðorðsmann í Odda. Jón átti einnig nokkrar frillur og með þeim allmörg börn. Þekktastir eru þeir Páll biskup í Skálholti og Ormur Breiðbælingur. Móðir þeirra var Ragnheiður Þórhallsdóttir, systir Þorláks helga.

Jon's wife was Halldóra Brandsdóttir and they had two children; Solveig, wife of Gudmund griss Ámundason at Thingvellir and grandmother of Gissur Þorvaldsson, and Sæmundur Jonsson "goðorðsmann" (holder of "goðorð", chieftain) at Oddi. Jon had also a number of mistresses and with them several children. Known are Paul bishop of Skálholt and Ormur of Breidabolstaðir Their mother was Ragnheiður Þórhallsdóttir, sister of Þorlákur helga ("the holy", st. Þorlákur) [the same Þorlákur mentioned above, as Jon's opponent in the "Staðamál" case of 1179)

 

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Som sagt.... eg kan ikkje islandsk. Det er sikkert detaljar som kan rettast på.

[Armand]

Kaere Ivar!

Jeg vet ikke hvordan jeg kan takke Deg nok för Diit fantastisk arbete!!!

Jeg laerte de tre skandinaviske spraak tillsamman som bifack paa Universitet 42 aar siden. Det var maaske ikke ett gott idé därför att nu kommer allt inblandat.

Alltsaa undskyld igen för de maange fel.

Jeg laerte ocksaa gamelislensk och det er förklaringen hvorfor jeg ville gjerne hjaelpe denne student.

Han skal säkerligen vaere mykket glad med resultatet.

Tusend takk!!!

Armand