Anton Antonson Skien, Telemark, Norway

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Sem
Gård nr. 121 i Gjerpen kommune. Overført til Skien kommune i 1964.

Dette er en interaktiv bygdebok som vil vokse og bli mer feilfri ved brukernes hjelp.
Feil, mangler og oppdateringer bes vennligst rettet til: Gard Strøm.

 

 

 

Gunder Bentsen fra Tudal i Siljan dpt. 4/3-1781 i Gjerpen d. 15/1-1838 på Lysa, s.a. Bent Gundersen og Ingeborg Halvorsdatter. Se Båserød(2).
g. 30/3-1818 m. Anne Jonsdatter fra Bestul f. 12/2-1792, d.a. Jon Olsen Bestul.
Forlovere: "Gregorius Nielsen Semb, Anders Olsen Hobek."
1. Jørand Marie Gundersdatter f. 25/11-1816 i Sandsvær g.m. Nils Larsen Kjær. Se Familie 25 - Kleiva 1845.
2. Ingeborg Karine Gundersdatter f. 2/3-1819 på Sokka g.m. tollbetjent Andreas Christinius Haraldsen fra Sem. Se Familie 3 - Mæla 1875.
3. Anne Gundersdatter f. 3/8-1823 på Lysa.
4. Bent Gundersen f. 1/6-1826.
5. John Gundersen f. 5/3-1829 g. i Skien 11/12-1853 m. Ingeborg Andersdatter fra Ulefoss f. ca. 1832, d.a. Anders Andersen.
    Forlovere: "Tjener Ole Pedersen af Gj. og Jens Sørensen Blegebakken. "
    Barn 1. Anders Johnsen f. 29/10-1855 i Lysa, g. i Johannes menighet i Kristiania 1/5-1881 m. Oline Johansdatter f. 1858 i Stange, Hedemark (d.a. Johan Taalesen).
6. Turine f. 1/3-1834 d. 18/4-1845 på Lysa.
Br. ca. 1822.

Gunder ble født i ei stue på Båserød(2).
 

 

Fra Sandsvær kirkebok da Jørand Marie ble døpt i Hedenstad kirke den 26/10-1816:
"Gunder Bentsen fra Hjerpen Sogn, Uægte barn med pigen Anne Johnsdatter fra samme Stæd deres Datter Jørrand Marie født 25. Nov.
Faddere: Siul Rogstad og Kone, pige Tore Johnsd., Poul Olsen Rogstad, Ole Olsen ibid."
F.f. Gunder Bentsen

http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamlegjerpen.no%2FBygdebok%2FSem%2FSem15Lysa.htm&ei=DY6yVK6iBsnuarX4gOgE&usg=AFQjCNE8w6B0bjHgfJO2ZTAlFWWVLqu9yg&sig2=ElvHXLksbSMHTkFOf3d14A&bvm=bv.83339334,d.d2s

Familie 25

Kleiva 1845.

http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Bygdebok/Bratsberg/Kleiva1845.htm#Familie25

[Stian Høiset]

Ann-Mary may well have found your ancestor. "Gjoran" and "Jørand" are pronounced in the same way in Norwegian.

 

"Sandsvær" is a parish in Buskerud, today a part of Kongsberg city.

[Jake Peterson]

Oh wow! Already back to the 1780's! How exciting! I wonder where in America Lars Nilsen went? My bet is South Dakota or Minnesota. Do you have immigration records for Norway?

[Stian Høiset]

Oh wow! Already back to the 1780's! How exciting! I wonder where in America Lars Nilsen went? My bet is South Dakota or Minnesota. Do you have immigration records for Norway?

 

Emigration protocols exist, yes. See link here. The lists are far from complete, though. Living in Skien, their most likely emigration harbour would be Oslo.

[Mette R Francke]

Hei

 

Albert

Kildeinformasjon: Telemark fylke, Skien, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1900-1907), Fødte og døpte 1900, side 9. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1482&idx_id=1482&uid=ny&idx_side=-10
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051003040437.jpg

[Jake Peterson]

Cool. Now I have Anna Olson's ancestry. This is all so exciting! Will have to sort all this out, and come back with more look ups. At least I subscribed to the site, so I can look up churchbooks in my free time.

[Jake Peterson]

Stian-

 

Don't see any matches for Lars Nilson immigrating in 1862. Will try Castle Gardens later. The site seems to be moving slow right now (at least for me)

[Mette R Francke]

Hei

 

Anna Olsdatter siblings

 

Name: Andreas Olsen

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 11 Apr 1860

Christening Date: 04 May 1860

Christening Place: , HOLLA, TELEMARK, NORWAY

Father's Name: Ole Thygesen

Mother's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdr

 

 

 

 

 

Name: Anders Olsen

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 04 Mar 1864

Christening Date: 10 Apr 1864

Christening Place: , HOLLA, TELEMARK, NORWAY

Father's Name: Ole Thygesen

Mother's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdr

 

Name: Anne Kirstine Olsen

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 04 Aug 1857

Christening Date: 16 Aug 1857

Christening Place: HOLLA,TELEMARK,NORWAY

Father's Name: Ole Thygesen

Mother's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdr

 

 

 

 

Name: Olava Olesdatter

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 25 Jan 1869

Christening Date: 26 Mar 1869

Christening Place: Holla, Telemark, Norway

Father's Name: Ole Thygesen

Mother's Name: Anne Gurine Andreasdatter

 

[Ann-Mary Engum]

 

 

Tollev 1862. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4L7-T9G

 

 

 

 

 

Anne 1872. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWZ7-Y2R

[Jake Peterson]

Thanks for all your help! I will get this all sorted out and let you know if I need other things. Still would like to find Lars Nilson. I'm going to check CastleGardens now.

[Mette R Francke]

Hi

 

maybe this is Anton mother in 1900 for Skien.

 

Adress :Kallems gade

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

Andreas Kjærra hf g Arbeider paa sagbrug 1850 Gjerpen Brb

Kirsten Kjærra hm g Hustru 1857 Gjerpen Brb

Ingeborg Kjærra d ug Datter 1886 Skien Brb

Trygve Kjærra s ug Søn 1891 Skien Brb

Maren Kjærra tj b ug Tjenestepige 1844 Gjerpen Brb

Anders Olsen hf g Skomagersvend 1841 Sverige

Inger Tomine Olsen hm g Hustru 1848 Gjerpen Brb

Mariane Kjærra el ug Fattigunderstøttelse 1848 Gjerpen Brb

 

ug =not married

Fattirdomunderstøttelse = poverty support

 

In census for 1865 Marianne father are listed as Niels Larsen Kjærra

 

Street name Kamperhauggade 20

 

And ANton in 1900 census for Skien

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

Anthon A Kjær hf g Sagbrugs Arbeider 1871 Skien Brb

Anna Kjær hm g 1872 Ulefos Brb

Albert Kjær s ug* 1899.11.16 Skien Brb

!! Kjær* d ug* 1900.11.24 Skien Brb

 

 

[Jake Peterson]

Mette-

 

Now I'm confused. LOL; Is it the Marianne that was born in 1848 here, or is it the Marianne that was born Aug 11, 1842, also in Gjerpen? Guess we'll have to re look at the birth record, and see what Marianne and Hans Anton's age was at the time of birth. A reply to this thread earlier found a Hans Anton Enertsen born in 1855. Could Anton's parents have been 16 and 23 when he was born? They were unmarried after all....

[Mette R Francke]

Hi

 

Confusion is part of the genealogy  :lol:

Maybe Mariane his birth year is incorrect.

Whoever has entered it may have read in 1848 and not 1843.

 

One solution could be to find Marianne's death in church records,

 

 

Mette

 

[Jake Peterson]

That was going to be my next question. The most logical place would be Skien, Norway. Let me check the census records. I know I saw them on a page here somewhere.

 

edit: Can't seem to see what I'm looking for. I tried the main page with all the years on them.

Endret Januar 11, 2015 av Jake Peterson

[Jake Peterson]

Ok, I did not find Lars Nilsen/Nilson/Nelson on Castlegardens. Of course, I also didn't find Anton and his family immigrating in 1903, so I wonder just how complete the database is.

 

Things I would like to know:

 

1. More about that Hans Anton Enertson. What censuses does he show up in?

 

2. Marianne Nilsdatter's death date

 

3. Immigration records in Norway for Lars Nilsen.

 

Ann Mary- Thanks for all that information on those web sites you found. Would like to know more about Anne Olsen's ancestry. According to that site, Anne Olsen 1872's parents Ole Tygesen and Anne Gurine Andreasdatter were born in Holden, Norway. Is that in the Skien providence as well?

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Holden = Holla.

 

 

Wikipedia:

Holla,Telemark

 

https://www.google.no/url?q=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holla,_Telemark&sa=U&ei=y9OzVLzBIcv3UoCegSg&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=fSkXX7Y7fhQze2mvGPr2cA&usg=AFQjCNH3RdX1OCbZgq2LrbNLl8FTrfXYxQ

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Anne Gurine Andreasdatter and Ole Thygesen married dec 27 1856.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWZT-538

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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051007040635.jpg

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Anne Gurine 1833.

 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N45T-SLQ

 

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061208050034.jpg

Ole Thygesen 1823. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH9S-LZZ

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051007040090.jpg

[Jake Peterson]

Ok, I'll do some searches on Family search as well and let you know what I find. :)

[Jake Peterson]

Hmmm. I see a birth record for Andreas Halverson on Feb 16, 1784 in Gjerpen, Norway. Parents are Halvor Nilson and Ingeborg Havorsdatter.

 

It also appears that Tyge Andersen and Annie Olsdatter lost a son named Anders Tygesen before 1820, as they had another son by that name in that year.

[Jake Peterson]

Hi Everybody;  I'm looking into my Norwegian roots again. Hey, If anyone could look up censuses in Skien, Telemark, Norway for Ant(h)on Ant(h)onson after Sept 1921, that would be great! Seems he deserted his wife that year, and I'm wondering if he went back home to Norway. Would appreciate any help! Thanks a lot! For refreshers, Anthon was born Aug 23, 1871 in Skien, and came to America in 1903. Perhaps he went back? 

 

Jake

[Anfinn Bernaas]

Last Norwegian state cencus open to the public is from 1910. Next state cencus is 1920. It will not be public before 2020! 

Endret Mars 10, 2018 av Anfinn Bernaas

[Jake Peterson]

Thanks! That's disappointing. What other resources are there to see if he returned to Norway? 

[Anfinn Bernaas]

På 10.3.2018 den 15.41, Jake Peterson skrev:

Thanks! That's disappointing. What other resources are there to see if he returned to Norway? 

 

Church books in Digitalarkivet. If the book(s) are scanned it can be a timeconsuming task to look for his name. Skien and the adjacent communities (Gjerpen and Solum parishes) are highly populated.

[Jake Peterson]

May I have the link to the church books? What is the Norwegian word for entering the parish?