Trenger hjelp til å finne Amerika farere fra Bergen.

[Rune Thorstensen]

Det gjelder 3 søsken som ved farens død i 1941 er oppgitt å være i Amerika (Anders Nilsen Brudvik)

 

Marthe Andersdtr. Bru(d)vik født 13.10.1882 giftet seg i Bergen 22.12.1905 med Mons Andreas Larsen Flesland f. 17.10.1876. De må ha utvandret før 1910, men jeg finner dem ikke i Emigrasjonslistene. Ved farens død i 1941 er hun skrevet som Marthe Flesland.

 

Nils (Andersen( Bru(d)vik født 09.04.1889 utvandret fra Bergen 12.01.1912. Han skulle til Brooklyn, New York til familie. Trolig søsteren Marthe m/familie. Ved farens død skrevet som Nils Bruvik

 

Anna Andersdtr. Bru(d)vik født 20.06.1897 utvandret fra Bergen 08.08.1916. Reisemål var New York for å besøke søster. Ved farens død i 1941 heter hun Pettersen til etternavn.

 

Alle tre er født i Bruvik sokn, Haus, Hordaland.

 

Er det noen av Amerika ekspertene her i Brukerforumet som kan fremskaffe opplysninger om disse i Amerika?

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Martha Flesland

New Jersey State Census, 1915

Name Martha Flesland Event Type Census Event Year 1915 Event Place Perth Amboy, 1 ward, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States Gender Female Birth Date Oct 1882 Birthplace Norway

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Mons Flesland

  M   Norway

 

Martha Flesland

  F   Norway

 

Laf Flesland

  M   Norway

 

Olf Flesland

  M   Norway

 

Bertha Flesland

  F   New Jersey

 

Benjaman Flesland

  M   New Jersey

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV97-8GMM

 

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Martha Flesland

United States Census, 1920

Name Martha Flesland Event Type Census Event Date 1920 Event Place Fall River Ward 8, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States Gender Female Age 37 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Can Read Yes Can Write Yes Relationship to Head of Household Wife Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1883 Birthplace Norway Immigration Year 1910 Father's Birthplace Norway Mother's Birthplace Norway Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 10

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Moris Flesland

Head M 43 Norway

 

Martha Flesland

Wife F 37 Norway

 

Lief Flesland

Son M 13 Norway

 

Alfred Flesland

Son M 13 Norway

 

Bertha Flesland

Daughter F 8 New Jersey

 

Norman Flesland

Son M 6 New Jersey

 

Dorothy Flesland

Daughter F 4 New Jersey

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXTT-3XF

 

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Martha Flesland

United States Census, 1930

Name Martha Flesland Event Type Census Event Date 1930 Event Place Richmond (Districts 251-363), Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 47 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Wife Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1883 Birthplace Norway Immigration Year 1910 Father's Birthplace Norway Mother's Birthplace Norway Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 11

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Mons Flesland

Head M 53 Norway

 

Martha Flesland

Wife F 47 Norway

 

Leif Flesland

Son M 23 Norway

 

Alfred Flesland

Son M 23 Norway

 

Bertha Flesland

Daughter F 18 New Jersey

 

Normon Flesland

Son M 16 New Jersey

 

Dorothy Flesland

Daughter F 14 New Jersey

 

Arthur Flesland

Son M 9 Massachusetts

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X45Y-RP7

 

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Martha Flesland

United States Census, 1940

Name Martha Flesland Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 3, Queens, New York City, Queens, New York, United States Gender Female Age 57 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace Norway Birth Year (Estimated) 1883 Last Place of Residence Totenville, Staten Island, New York

 

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Mons Flesland

Head M 63 Norway

 

Martha Flesland

Wife F 57 Norway

 

Lath Flesland

Son M 33 Norway

 

Alfred Flesland

Son M 33 Norway

 

Arthur Flesland

Son M 19 Massachusetts

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQYX-2QD

[Rune Thorstensen]

Jeg klarte å finne Marthe og ektemannen Mons Flesland i  1930 tellingen. De var da bosatt i  Richmond, New York.

De hadde barna Leif og Alfred født 1907 i Norge, Berthe født 1912 i New Jersey, Norman født 1914 også i New Jersey, Dorothy født 1916 i New Jersey og Arthur født 1921 i Massachusetts. Jeg tare gjerne i mot ytterligere opplysninger om denne familien samt Martha's to søsken Nils og Anna.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Mons Andreas Flesland

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name Mons Andreas Flesland Event Type Draft Registration Event Date 1942 Event Place Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, United States Residence Place Jackson Heights, Queens, New York Gender Male Employer Mons Andreas/Flesland Birth Date 17 Oct 1876 Affiliate ARC Identifier 2555973

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3XB-4XS

 

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Mons Flesland

New York, New York City Municipal Deaths

Name Mons Flesland Event Type Death Event Date 19 Apr 1944 Event Place New York City, Richmond, New York, United States Gender Male Age 67 Marital Status Unknown Birth Year (Estimated) 1877 Father's Name Lars Mother's Name Martha Vikkoda Spouse's Name Martha Spouse's Gender Female

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W5X-8HL

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Rune Thorstensen]

Hei Ann-Mary. Her krysset innleggene våre. Jeg ser de hadde en sønn Benjamin f. 1913 i 1915 tellingen, men han er forte i de senere tellingene og må da antas død mellom 1915 og 1920.

Mange takk for hjelpen.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Norman Flesland

United States Census, 1940

Name Norman Flesland Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 2, Richmond, New York City, Richmond, New York, United States Gender Male Age 27 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Relationship to Head of Household Head Birthplace Massachusetts Birth Year (Estimated) 1913 Last Place of Residence Same Place

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Norman Flesland

Head M 27 Massachusetts

 

Lydia Flesland

Wife F 26 New York

 

Arthur Flesland

Son M 2 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79X-2QJ

 

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Norman Flesland

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 69 Given Name Norman Surname Flesland Birth Date 04 Jun 1913 State New York Last Place of Residence Wells Bridge, Otsego, New York Previous Residence Postal Code 13859 Event Date Jan 1982

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VSJ7-KY8

 

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Lydia Flesland

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 92 Given Name Lydia Surname Flesland Birth Date 22 Mar 1914 State New york Last Place of Residence Lee, Florida Previous Residence Postal Code 33991 Event Date 10 Jun 2006

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBC9-9MF

 

Leif Flesland

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 70 Given Name Leif Surname Flesland Birth Date 29 Jun 1906 State New York Last Place of Residence Staten Island, Richmond, New York Previous Residence Postal Code 10307 Event Date Feb 1976

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VMVV-7YQ

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Rune Thorstensen]

Takk for flotte bidrag Ann-Mary.

Jeg fant nå at Mons Andr. Larsen Flæsland utvandret fra Bergen 23.07.1907 mens Marthe og de to første barna dro etter 22.08.1908. Marthe sto uten navn men jeg fant dem da jeg søkte på Leif Flesland.

[Karsten Damén]

Ellis Island:

 

• First Name :   Nils
• Last Name :   Andersen
• Nationality :   Norway, Scandinavian
• Last Place of Residence :   Josanjes, Norway
• Date of Arrival :   January 29th, 1912
• Age at Arrival :   22y
• Gender :   Male
• Marital Status :   Single
• Ship of Travel :   Laconia (1912)
• Port of Departure :   Liverpool
• Manifest Line Number :   0008

I manifestet kan ses, at han er på vej til sin svoger Mons Flesland.

Faderen opgives som Anders Nielsen Brudvik.

 

Ellis Island:

• First Name :   Mons
• Last Name :   Flasland
• Nationality :   Norway, Scandinavian
• Date of Arrival :   August 6th, 1907
• Age at Arrival :   30y
• Gender :   Male
• Marital Status :   Married
• Ship of Travel :   Hellig Olav
• Port of Departure :   Christiansand
• Manifest Line Number :   0013

• First Name :   Martha
• Last Name :   Flasland
• Nationality :   Norway, Norwegian
• Last Place of Residence :   Bergen/Norway
• Date of Arrival :   September 6th, 1910
• Age at Arrival :   27y
• Gender :   Female
• Marital Status :   Married
• Ship of Travel :   Hellig Olav
• Port of Departure :   Christiansand
• Manifest Line Number :   0012

 

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Karsten Damén

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Kan Alfred Flesland ha vært sjømann?

Finner Alfred Flesland f 1906/1907  flere ganger med ankomst New York.

 

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Her er :

 

Arthur Flesland

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 84 Given Name Arthur Surname Flesland Birth Date 07 May 1920 State New york Last Place of Residence Staten island, Richmond, New york Previous Residence Postal Code 10307 Event Date 25 Aug 2004

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V9B7-2XS

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Ann-Mary Engum]

PATTERSON, Bertha Marie (FLESLAND); 95; Perth Amboy NJ>MA>NY>Tottenville SI NY>Mount Vision NY; 2007-03-29 (d 2007-03-26); John R. PATTERSON (1934) (d 1975)
KOUTZ, Clara R. (CASTELLANO); 90; West Brighton SI NY>Dongan Hills; 2007-03-29 (d 2007-03-28); James CIACCIA (d 1994)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NYRICHMO/2007-03/1175269696

 

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Bertha Patterson

United States Census, 1940

Name Bertha Patterson Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 3, Queens, New York City, Queens, New York, United States Gender Female Age 28 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace New Jersey Birth Year (Estimated) 1912 Last Place of Residence Huntington, Suffolk, New York

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

John Patterson

Head M 26 New York

 

Bertha Patterson

Wife F 28 New Jersey

 

Patricia Ann Patterson

Daughter F 3 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ37-QJY

 

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Mrs Former Staten Islander Bertha Marie Flesland Patterson

United States, GenealogyBank Obituaries

Deceased

Name Mrs Former Staten Islander Bertha Marie Flesland Patterson Titles and Terms Mrs Event Type Obituary Event Date 29 Mar 2007 Event Place New York, United States Gender Female Relationship to Deceased Deceased Birthplace Perth Amboy, , New Jersey Death Place Cooperstown, , New York Newspaper Staten Island Advance

Spouse and Children

John R Husband Male Roy Son Male Patricia Cozzolino Daughter Female

Others on Record

S S White Other Unknown Reverend Sara Baron Non Relative Female

CITING THIS RECORD

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVTZ-RXKC

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Rune Thorstensen]

Hjertelig takk igjen til begge to. 

Alfred kan godt ha vært sjømann, men jeg vet ingenting om dem som dro over dammen. Faren Mons var i alle fall sjømann før han dro til Amerika.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Har redigert # 10.

[Rune Thorstensen]

PATTERSON, Bertha Marie (FLESLAND); 95; Perth Amboy NJ>MA>NY>Tottenville SI NY>Mount Vision NY; 2007-03-29 (d 2007-03-26); John R. PATTERSON (1934) (d 1975)

KOUTZ, Clara R. (CASTELLANO); 90; West Brighton SI NY>Dongan Hills; 2007-03-29 (d 2007-03-28); James CIACCIA (d 1994)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NYRICHMO/2007-03/1175269696

 

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Bertha Patterson

United States Census, 1940

Name Bertha Patterson Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 3, Queens, New York City, Queens, New York, United States Gender Female Age 28 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace New Jersey Birth Year (Estimated) 1912 Last Place of Residence Huntington, Suffolk, New York

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

John Patterson

Head M 26 New York

 

Bertha Patterson

Wife F 28 New Jersey

 

Patricia Ann Patterson

Daughter F 3 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ37-QJY

Denne tror jeg må være feil, for de tre søskene som dro over dammen var Marthe Johanne, Nils og Anna. Ved farens dødsfall i 1941 var alle i live og fortsatt bosatt i Usa. Anna hadde giftet seg og het Pettersen til etternavn. Hun var yngst født 1897 og emigrerte i 1916.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Bertha (Flesland ) Patterson var f ca 1912.95 år ved død i 2007.

 

Martha og Mons Flesland  hadde en datter som het Bertha f ca 1912.

 

Martha Flesland

United States Census, 1930

Name Martha Flesland Event Type Census Event Date 1930 Event Place Richmond (Districts 251-363), Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 47 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Wife Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1883 BirthplaceNorway Immigration Year 1910 Father's Birthplace Norway Mother's Birthplace Norway Sheet Letter A Sheet Number11

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Mons Flesland

Head M 53 Norway

 

Martha Flesland

Wife F 47 Norway

 

Leif Flesland

Son M 23 Norway

 

Alfred Flesland

Son M 23 Norway

 

Bertha Flesland

Daughter F 18 New Jersey

 

Normon Flesland

Son M 16 New Jersey

 

Dorothy Flesland

Daughter F 14 New Jersey

 

Arthur Flesland

Son M 9 Massachusetts

https://familysearch...03/1:1:X45Y-RP7

 

[Karsten Damén]

Niels Andersen i USA:

 

Marriage:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2488-7JV

 

US Census 1930:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X45Y-GQG

 

hilsen Karsten

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Bertha M Flesland giftet seg med John Patterson 23 okt 1935.

 

http://italiangen.org/records-search/brides.php

Dorothy Flesland giftet seg med Louis E Daubert 23 ok 1935.

 

http://italiangen.org/records-search/brides.php

Så da hadde  vel søstrene Bertha og Dorothy dobbeltbryllup.

Dorothy Daubert

United States Census, 1940

Name Dorothy Daubert Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 2, Richmond, New York City, Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 24 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace New Jersey Birth Year (Estimated) 1916 Last Place of Residence Same Place

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Louis Daubert

Head M 25 Pennsylvania

 

Dorothy Daubert

Wife F 24 New Jersey

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79X-NTX

[Rune Thorstensen]

Beklager Ann-Mary. Jeg så meg blind påde tre søskene. Selvsagt må det være snakk om datteren Bertha. Stor takk også fo opplysningene om datteren Dorothy.

 

Takk også til Karsten for at du fant Niels i 1930 tellingen. Han har jo åpenbart brukt Andersen og ikke Bruvik som var oppgitt ved farens død i 1941.

Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Rune Thorstensen

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Louis Daubert

United States Census, 1930

Name Louis Daubert Event Type Census Event Date 1930 Event Place Richmond (Districts 251-363), Richmond, New York, United States Gender Male Age 15 Marital Status Single Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Son Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1915 Birthplace Pennsylvania Father's Birthplace New York Mother's Birthplace England Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 2

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X45Y-LPP

Dorothy Daubert

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 71 Given Name Dorothy Surname Daubert Birth Date 04 Sep 1915 State New York Last Place of Residence Chenango, New York Previous Residence Postal Code 13815 Event Date Mar 1986

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKVB-HMX

Louis Daubert

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 60 Given Name Louis Surname Daubert Birth Date 08 Aug 1914 State New York Event Date Oct 1974

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JR3M-NJD

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Har redigert # 4.

[Rune Thorstensen]

Takk igjen Ann-Mary. Jeg prøver å henge med i svingene :-)

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Mulig kandidat til Anna Flesland?

 

Anna Peterson

United States Census, 1930

Name Anna Peterson Event Type Census Event Date 1930 Event Place Richmond (Districts 1-250), Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 32 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Wife Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1898 Birthplace Norway Immigration Year 1917 Father's Birthplace Norway Mother's Birthplace Norway Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 4

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE Magne Peterson Head M 34 Norway Anna Peterson Wife F 32 Norway Bertha Peterson Daughter F 7 New York Edwin Peterson Son M 11 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X45Y-5RW

 

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Anna Pettersen

United States Census, 1940

Name Anna Pettersen Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Assembly District 2, Richmond, New York City, Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 43 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birthplace Norway Birth Year (Estimated) 1897 Last Place of Residence Same House

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

 

Magne Pettersen

Head M 45 Norway

 

Anna Pettersen

Wife F 43 Norway

 

Edwin Pettersen

Son M 20 New York

 

Bertha Pettersen

Daughter F 16 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79X-6F2

Magne Peterson

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards

Name Magne Peterson Event Type Draft Registration Event Date 1917-1918 Event Place Perth Amboy City, New Jersey, United States Gender Male Nationality Norway Birth Date 10 May 1895 Birthplace Twiderland, , Norway

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZVM-83J

Magne Pettersen

United States Social Security Death Index

Age 76 Given Name Magne Surname Pettersen Birth Date 10 May 1895 State New York Last Place of Residence Staten Island, Richmond, New York Previous Residence Postal Code 10307 Event Date Oct 1971

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK2L-6P2

[Rune Thorstensen]

Takk igjen Ann-Mary.

 

Dette var interessant, ikke minst at de holdt til i Richmond, hvor du har funnet flere tidligere. En vielse mellom Magne Pettersen og Anne rundt 1920 vil kanskje kunne bringe klarhet i om det er rett.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Anna Petersen  

United States Census, 1920

Name Anna Petersen Event Type Census Event Date 1920 Event Place Richmond Assembly District 2, Richmond, New York, United States Gender Female Age 22 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Wife Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1898 Birthplace Norway Immigration Year 1916 Father's Birthplace Norway Mother's Birthplace Norway Sheet Letter B Sheet Number 17

 

HOUSEHOLD  

 

ROLE  

 

GENDER  

 

AGE  

 

BIRTHPLACE  

 

 

Magore Petersen

Head M 24 Norway

 

Anna Petersen

Wife F 22 Norway

 

Edwin Petersen

Son M 0 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVMV-ZDY

 

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  Magne Pettersen

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name Magne Pettersen Event Type Draft Registration Event Date 1942 Event Place Tottenville, Richmond, New York, United States Residence Place Tottenville, Richmond, New York Gender Male Employer Magne/Pettersen Birth Date 10 May 1895 Affiliate ARC Identifier 2555973

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3JL-X44

 

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BINGO!! 

 

Han het  Paul Henry Magne Pettersen.Gift med Anna Andersdatter Brudvik.

 

Ancestors of Mark Thomas Pettersen - WordPress.com https://tonqvist.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/markt.pdfRichmond, New York, United States of America. Paul Henry Magne Pettersen b: 10 May 1895 in Dybvaag, Aust-. Augder, Norway m: d: Oct 1971 in Staten Island ...https://tonqvist.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/markt.pdf Endret Januar 27, 2016 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Rune Thorstensen]

Glimrende Ann-Mary, jeg bøyer meg i støvet. Hjertelig takk for fantastisk hjelp.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Emigranter fra Kristiansand 1873-1930

 

Kristiansand 455 1914 April 10 Paul Henry Magne Pettersen M U Murarbeider 1895 Dybvaag USA THINGVALLA

http://da4.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=kristut&gardpostnr=34285&personpostnr=34285#nedre

Takk for fin tilbakemelding,Rune!

Alltid moro å hjelpe! :)