Tarald Olai, sporløst forsvunnet fra Stavanger til USA

[Hans Gangstø]

Muligens Sarah på findagrave

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Jones&GSfn=Sara&GSby=1894&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSst=33&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=87996023&df=all&

Birth: 1894

Death: 1968

 

 

Burial:
Overlook Cemetery 
Bridgeton
Cumberland County
New Jersey, USA

 
Created by: oceanmdone
Record added: Apr 02, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 87996023

[Åsbjørg Susort]

Dette er vel kanskje familien i 1905 hvis Anne er døpt Anne Mary.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM48-NVQ

Thomas Johnson

New Jersey State Census, 1905

Name	Thomas Johnson
Event Type	Census
Event Year	1905
Event Place	, Hudson, New Jersey, United States
Gender	Male
Age	50
Birth Year (Estimated)	1855
Page	6

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Thomas Johnson		M	50
Mary Johnson		F	47
John Johnson		M	21
Mary Johnson		F	15
Tomy Johnson		M	14
Sarria Johnson		F	12
Lewis Johnson		M	8

[Åsbjørg Susort]

Sarah i 1930 med «litt» feil alder – 37 har blitt 87 i transkriberingen

 

William R Jones in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:	William R Jones
Birth Year:	abt 1888
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birthplace:	New Jersey
Marital Status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Head
Home in 1930:	North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey
Map of Home:	View Map
Street address:	Fifth Avenue
Ward of City:	First part of
House Number in Cities or Towns:	1188
Dwelling Number:	253
Family Number:	379
Home Owned or Rented:	Owned
Home Value:	7000
Radio Set:	Yes
Lives on Farm:	No
Age at First Marriage:	31
Attended School:	No
Able to Read and Write:	Yes
Father's Birthplace:	England
Mother's Birthplace:	New Jersey
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Occupation:	Foreman
Industry:	Sugar Corp
Class of Worker:	Wage or salary worker
Employment:	Yes
Household Members:	Name Age William R Jones 42 Sarah Jones 87 Russell W Jones 10

 

??? Veldig usikker men kanskje verdt å sjekke? Finner den ikke på Findagrave

Russell Warren Jones in the U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963

Name:	Russell Warren Jones
Birth Date:	23 Mar 1920
Death Date:	16 Jul 1962
Cemetery:	Grove Church Cemetery
Cemetery Location:	North Bergen, New Jersey

 

[Åsbjørg Susort]

13 timer siden, Hans Gangstø skrev:

Muligens Sarah på findagrave

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Jones&GSfn=Sara&GSby=1894&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSst=33&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=87996023&df=all&

Birth: 1894

Death: 1968

 

 

Burial:
Overlook Cemetery 
Bridgeton
Cumberland County
New Jersey, USA

 
Created by: oceanmdone
Record added: Apr 02, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 87996023

IIfølge 1900-tellingen er hun født juli 1893 (muligens 4. juli?) Det kan også være denne i Hudson, New Jersey hvis hun også har et mellomnavn.

https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=jones&GSfn=sara&GSby=1893&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSst=33&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=145657474&df=all&

Sarah M. Jones

Birth:	1893
Death:	Oct., 1976
Note: 83 yrs old
Burial: Holy Name Cemetery Jersey City Hudson County New Jersey, USA Plot: 6 A 65
Created by: v f Record added: Apr 27, 2015 Find A Grave Memorial# 145657474

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Mangel

[Åsbjørg Susort]

15 timer siden, Bente Borgen skrev:

På vei til jobb, men jeg harprøvd å lage en liten oppsummering:

 

Louis f. 1897. Det ser ut som om han og er stedbundet til Hudson. I 1942 er adressen Union Hill, New Jersey, USA.

Vet ikke mer om Louis.

 

Louis bor i 421 West 113 st., New York, NY i 1942

[Egil Johannessen]

18 minutter siden, Åsbjørg Susort skrev:

??? Veldig usikker men kanskje verdt å sjekke? Finner den ikke på Findagrave

 

Russell Warren Jones in the U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963

 

Name:	Russell Warren Jones
Birth Date:	23 Mar 1920
Death Date:	16 Jul 1962
Cemetery:	Grove Church Cemetery
Cemetery Location:	North Bergen, New Jersey

 

Legger inn søknad for gravsten, kona het Audrey E. - verdt å merke; mottok Purple Heart og Bronze Star Medal! (WW II - mao. såret og heroisk innsats) - får se om vi kan finne ham, vervet seg i 1940. Bør også forsøke å finne fødselsesregistrering ift. rett mann.

[Åsbjørg Susort]

WW I draft for Louis oppgir far Thomas Johnson i 121 Humbolt st., Union Hill som nærmeste pårørende. Gift på ny med en Julia fra New York i 1920-tellingen

 

Thomas Johnson in the 1920 United States Federal Census

Name:	Thomas Johnson
Age:	65
Birth Year:	abt 1855
Birthplace:	Norway
Home in 1920:	Union Ward 2, Hudson, New Jersey
Street:	HUMBOLDT STREET
Race:	White
Gender:	Male
Immigration Year:	1889
Relation to Head of House:	Head
Marital Status:	Married
Spouse's Name:	Julia Johnson
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway
Native Tongue:	Norwegian
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Occupation:	Watchman
Industry:	Bank
Employment Field:	Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented:	Rent
Naturalization Status:	Naturalized
Able to Read:	Yes
Able to Write:	Yes
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members:	Name Age Thomas Johnson 65 Julia Johnson 43

 

 

 

[Egil Johannessen]

Julia er enke i 1930, så da er Thomas aka Tarald Olai død mellom 1920 og 1930

 

United States Census, 1930 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4X4-KPD
Name    Julia Johnson
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1930
Event Place    Union City, Hudson, New Jersey, United States
Gender    Female
Age    52
Marital Status    Widowed
Race    White
Race (Original)    White
Relationship to Head of Household    Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)    Head
Birth Year (Estimated)    1878
Birthplace    New York
Father's Birthplace    Germany
Mother's Birthplace    Germany
Sheet Letter    A
Sheet Number    11

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[Bente Borgen]

Oj!

Dette var jammen spennende å våkne opp til!

Thomas (Tarald Olai) Johansen født i Stavanger i 1854 gifter seg for andre gang med Julia før 1920. Han dør selv mellom 1920 og 1930 i new jersey.

Og Russel Warren Jones 1920 - 1962 med sine utmerkelser fra 2. verdenskrig var spesielt å få. Så langt seg det ut som om den slektsgreinen har holdt seg i New Jersey.

Dette er spennende!

Jeg hadde faktisk ikke trodd at jeg skulle få vite mer om denne siden av slekten. Min oldemor er søster av Tarald Olai/Thomas.

[Åsbjørg Susort]

Dette er vel vervingen for Russell Warren Jones. Vervedato stemmer iallefall.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMF3-Y4T

Russell W Jones United States World War II Army Enlistment Records

Name	Russell W Jones
Name (Original)	JONES RUSSELL W
Event Type	Military Service
Event Date	16 Sep 1940
Term of Enlistment	One year enlistment
Event Place	Jersey City, New Jersey, United States
Race	White
Citizenship Status	citizen
Birth Year	1920
Birthplace	NEW JERSEY
Education Level	4 years of high school
Civilian Occupation	Semiskilled chauffeurs and drivers, bus, taxi, truck, and tractor
Marital Status	Single, without dependents
Military Rank	Private
Army Branch	Infantry
Army Component	National Guard (Officers, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
Source Reference	National Guard
Serial Number	20223524
Affiliate ARC Identifier	1263923
Box Film Number	03343.56

 

Kanskje en henvendelse til NARA kan gi mer info...

https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records

 

[Bente Borgen]

Takker, Åsbjørg! Så Russel var sjåfør før krigen....

Mon tro om han fikk barn?

 

[Åsbjørg Susort]

1 minutt siden, Bente Borgen skrev:

Takker, Åsbjørg! Så Russel var sjåfør før krigen....

Mon tro om han fikk barn?

 

Vet jo ikke om dette er riktig Russell. Jeg trodde at W sto for William etter faren...

I originaldokument for vervingen er nok foreldrene nevnt.

Ved 1940-tellingen er "Russil" registrert som student med 4 år på high school, så den opplysningen stemmer også, men fortsatt usikker om dette er samme person.

[Åsbjørg Susort]

Russil Jones in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Name:	Russil Jones
Age:	20
Estimated birth year:	abt 1920
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birthplace:	New Jersey
Marital Status:	Single
Relation to Head of House:	Son
Home in 1940:	North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey
Map of Home in 1940:	View Map
Street:	5th Avenue
House Number:	1188
Inferred Residence in 1935:	North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey
Residence in 1935:	Same House
Resident on farm in 1935:	No
Sheet Number:	5A
Occupation:	Student
Attended School or College:	No
Highest Grade Completed:	High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:	0
Duration of Unemployment:	0
Weeks Worked in 1939:	0
Income:	0
Income Other Sources:	No
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members:	Name Age William R Jones 55 Sara Jones 46 Russil Jones 20

 

 

[Bente Borgen]

Takker igjen!

Skjønner hva du mener.

Men jeg ser at foreldrene også stemmer i 1940, også aldersforskjellen mellom far og mor....

 

[Gaute Klepp]

Dersom John Johnson f. 1883 er mannen til Ella Bergman, er dette datteren Elanor som gifter seg i 1929 med William A. Quick?

 

Eleanor M. Johnson

mentioned in the record of William A. Quick and Eleanor M. Johnson

Name	William A. Quick
Event Type	Marriage
Event Date	06 Aug 1929
Event Place	Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original)	Manhattan, New York
Gender	Male
Age	26
Marital Status	Single
Race	White
Birth Year (Estimated)	1903
Birthplace	Greenwood, N.J.
Father's Name	George Quick
Mother's Name	Emily Clements
Spouse's Name	Eleanor M. Johnson
Spouse's Gender	Female
Spouse's Age	17
Spouse's Marital Status	Single
Spouse's Race	White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)	1912
Spouse's Birthplace	North Bergen, N.J.
Spouse's Father's Name	John Johnson
Spouse's Mother's Name	Ella Bergmann   Her er dødsfallet. Name: Eleanor Marie Quick [Eleanor Quick]  [Eleanor Marie Johnson]  SSN: 155129594 Gender: Female Race: White Birth Date: 23 May 1912 Birth Place: North Bergen, New Jersey Death Date: 16 Feb 1996 Father: John Johnson Mother: Ella Bergman

[Bente Borgen]

Takker Gaute!

Dette kan jo faktisk stemme. Moren til Eleanore het Ella, men jeg vet bare fornavnet hennes. Og varen var jo John Johnson. Ser at disse også holdt seg til New Jerswy, North Bergen. Jeg har riktignok 1913 på fødselsåret hennes, men det er jo kun etter folketellinger.

Spennende... ! ! ! !

 

[Hans Gangstø]

Fra SSDI - gir siste oppholdssted

Name:	Eleanor Quick
SSN:	155-12-9594
Last Residence:	08755 Toms River, Ocean, New Jersey, USA
BORN:	23 May 1912
Died:	16 Feb 1996

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[Hans Gangstø]

I såfall gjerne ekteskapet

Name:	William A Quick
Gender:	Male
Marriage Date:	6 Aug 1929
Marriage Place:	Manhattan, New York, USA
Spouse:	Eleanor Johnson
Certificate Number:	19409

[Gaute Klepp]

Er det denne familien som dukker opp i FT-1940?: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4RL-24B

 

Elanor Quick

United States Census, 1940

Name	Elanor Quick
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1940
Event Place	Ward 5, Union City, Union City, Hudson, New Jersey, United States
Gender	Female
Age	27
Marital Status	Married
Race (Original)	White
Race	White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Wife
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Birthplace	New Jersey
Birth Year (Estimated)	1913
Last Place of Residence	Same Place

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
William Quick	Head	M	37	Connecticut
Elanor Quick	Wife	F	27	New Jersey
Shirley Quick	Daughter	F	8	New Jerse

 

 

[Egil Johannessen]

Johan Tobias aka John Johnson, census 1920 (omtalt i tidligere post) - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4TS-LJY

han var da bokbinder og i finner ham i 1930 (bokbinder), enkemann.

The 1930 United States Federal Census - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X48W-5CR
Name:    John Johnson
Birth Year:    abt 1884
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Norway
Marital Status:    Widowed
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Home in 1930:    Cliffside Park, Bergen, New Jersey
Map of Home:    View Map
Street address:    Palisade Ave
House Number in Cities or Towns:    231
Dwelling Number:    19
Family Number:    42
Home Owned or Rented:    Rented
Home Value:    25
Radio Set:    No
Lives on Farm:    No
Age at First Marriage:    27
Attended School:    No
Able to Read and Write:    Yes
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Language Spoken:    Norwegian
Immigration Year:    1892
Naturalization:    Naturalized
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Bookbinder
Industry:    Bookbindery
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker
Employment:    Yes
Household Members:    
Name    Age
John Johnson    46

 

I 1940 var han gift påny med Victoria. 2 av hennes barn bodde sammen med dem. Victoria (f. Pearson) var skilt, tidligere gift med John James Enlow.

United States Census, 1940 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4RG-KCW
Name:    John Johnson
Age:    56
Estimated birth year:    abt 1884
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Norway
Marital Status:    Married
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Home in 1940:    Union, Hudson, New Jersey

Street:    47th Street
House Number:    337
Residence in 1935:    Cliffside, Bergen, New Jersey
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)    Head
Occupation:    Book Bender
House Owned or Rented:    Rented

Attended School or College:    No
Highest Grade Completed:    Elementary school, 5th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:    42
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker in private work

Weeks Worked in 1939:    40
Income:    1200
Household Members
John Johnson    Head    M    56    Norway
Victoria Johnson    Wife    F    39    Pennsylvania
Robert Enlow    Stepson    M    21    Pittsburg
Dolores Enlow    Stepdaughter    F    16    Pittsburg

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[Egil Johannessen]

The U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR16-4MW
Name:    John Johnson
Age:    59
Race:    White
Birth Date:    13 Jun 1883
Birth Place:    Stavenger, Norway
Residence Year:    1942
Residence:    Hudson, New Jersey, USA

Endret Mars 17, 2017 av Egil Johannessen

[Bente Borgen]

16 årsdag i huset her i dag..... familiebesøk i morgen...

Jeg ser innom og kikker av og til fordi jeg er så spent.......

[Gaute Klepp]

Ella Bergmann som var gift med John Johnson f. 1883 døde trolig i 1927?: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=98057151&ref=acom

[Bente Borgen]

Takker igjen!

Artig å lese signalementet på John og få bekreftet hvem han var gift med i 1942...

Går det an å finne levende etterkommere, mon tro

[Egil Johannessen]

Hvis du husker fra WW II Draft Reg Cards 1942 - Louis Johnson sin arbeidsgiver var St Lukes Hosp i New York. Der jobbet han allerede i 1930 og vi finner ham også ansatt der i 1940.

 

The 1930 United States Federal Census - Lenke FS https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42W-G5F
Name:    Louis Johnson # 37 i census listen
Birth Year:    abt 1897
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    New Jersey
Marital Status:    Single
Home in 1930:    Manhattan, New York, New York
Map of Home:    View Map
Street address:    St Lukes ?? 400 to 500 Street 113
Ward of City:    A. D. 11
Block:    H
Institution:    St Lukes Hospital
Family Number:    1
Attended School:    No
Able to Read and Write:    Yes
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Language Spoken:    English
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Elevator Runner
Industry:    Hospital
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker
Employment:    Yes
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Louis Johnson    33

 

The 1940 United States Federal Census - Lenke FS https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQSJ-V5W
Name:    Lewis Johnson # 29 i census listen
Respondent:    Yes
Age:    43
Estimated birth year:    abt 1897
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    New Jersey
Marital Status:    Single
Relation to Head of House:    Employee
Home in 1940:    New York, New York, New York
Map of Home in 1940:    View Map
Street:    West 113th Street
Inferred Residence in 1935:    New York, New York, New York
Residence in 1935:    Same House
Sheet Number:    4A
Institution:    St Luke's Hospital
Occupation:    Watchman
Attended School or College:    No
Highest Grade Completed:    Elementary school, 5th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:    54
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939:    52
Income:    520

Endret Mars 18, 2017 av Egil Johannessen