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Families of Hermund Jonsson de Hopperstad and Hermund Jonsson dy Hopperstad (Vik i Sogn, late 1600s)


Carl-Henry Geschwind
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Please forgive me for writing this in English - I can read Norwegian, but not write it.

 

Gudmund Balvoll, in his Gards- og æettesoge for Vik i Sogn (2008), has the following reconstruction for the families of two brothers at Hopperstad in the late 1600s:

 

"Gamle" Hermund Jonsson Hopperstad (1603-??)

  married to Brita (named 1645)

    children ?Endre Stadheim (1633-??), ?Jon Åse (1641-??)

 

"Unge" Hermund Jonsson Hopperstad (1613-??)

  1st marriage to Anna Ivardtr (named 1645)

    children Ivar Stadheim (1639-??), Ivar Hopperstad (1643-??, lensmann 1701), Margrete Hausa, Brita Tenål

  2nd marriage to Brita Hermundsdtr (died 1702)

    children Jon Orvedal (1653-??), Vigtrud Seim, Brita Tenål, Anna Vange, Marta Seim, Eli Åse (1656-??)

 

Two key pieces for this reconstruction are the probate for Brita Hermundsdtr from 1702, which notes that her son Jon Hermundsson was a lensmann, and the 1701 manntall, which has been read (by Balvoll, by bygdebokskrivar Olav Hoprekstad in 1958, and by the database of the 1701 manntall) as saying that the lensmannsgård at Hopperstad was occupied by an Iver Hermundsen, age 57. Thus, Balvoll has interpreted this as saying that "unge" Hermund had two sons who became lensmann, his second son Ivar from his first marriage (for whom there is no other evidence besides the 1701 manntall) and his son Jon from his second marriage.

 

But if you look closely at the original of the 1701 manntall (https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ft10041010274015, right-hand side, top entry), I believe the name of the occupant at the lensmannsgård is actually Joen, not Iver, Hermunds. And if you look at probate records from 1701 in Vik (for example, https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081121690147, left-hand side about mid-way down), you will see that the lensmand in attendance is always listed as Joen (not Iver) Hopperstad.

 

This means that the lensmann Jon Hermundsson mentioned in the 1702 probate of Brita Hermundsdotter is Jon Hopperstad (1643-??), not Jon Orvedal (1653-??), who is a different person also listed in the 1701 manntall. Jon Hermundsson Orvedal clearly was the son of "unge" Hermund Jonsson, as he inherited his farm at Orvedal from "unge" Hermund. But Jon Hermundsson Hopperstad seems to have lived at the same bruk at Hopperstad as "gamle" Hermund Jonsson (that is, the bruk owned by the king in 1645). And there is no longer any evidence for an Ivar Hermundsson Hopperstad born in 1643.

 

One additional piece of evidence is that Anna Ivarsdtr, the wife of "unge" Hermund mentioned in the 1645 koppskatt listing, seems to have survived "unge" Hermund, as an "E. [=enke] Anne Hopprestad" is listed instead of Hermund in the 1681 tax list (see https://www.digitalarkivet.no/rk20090630350705, right-hand side, right column, fourth name from bottom). Thus, there is no longer any evidence for a second wife of "unge" Hermund.

 

Thus, I would like to suggest the following alternate reconstruction of the families:

 

"Gamle" Hermund Jonsson Hopperstad (1603-??)

  married Brita Hermundsdtr (mentioned 1645, died 1702)

    children Jon Hopperstad (1643-??, lensmann 1701), Vigtrud Seim, Brita Tenål, Anna Vange, Marta Seim, Eli Åse (1656-??)

 

"Unge" Hermund Jonsson Hopperstad (1613-bef.1681)

  married Anna Ivarsdtr (mentioned 1645, died aft. 1681)

    children Ivar Stadheim (1639-??), Jon Orvedal (1653-??), Margrete Hausa, Brita Tenål

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jon Sværen said:

Er ikkje dette noko for Vik Lokalhistoriske Arkiv v/ Rune og Arne-Inge ??

 

Eller kva ?

 

I am very sorry - being an American who is tracing ancestors who came to the U.S. from Vik in the 1840s/1850s, I was not aware of this local institution. I shall contact Rune and Arne-Inge to see whether my reconstruction makes any sense to them.

 

Thanks!

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Til Carl-Henry Geschwind

 

Frå Rune Lee frå Vik lokalhistoriske arkiv

 

Du kan lesa norsk. Difor skriv eg på norsk. Unge og gamle Hermund Jonson Hopperstad skriv me av og til om her ved Vik lokalhistoriske arkiv. Me brukar professor Balvoll si bok som fakta. han har gjort sine vurderingar og ressonnement om dei. Dette er frå 1600-talet, og eg har ikkje erfaring med å gå nærare inn på det som Balvoll har skrive. Eg tek det til etteretning. At du finn litt andre ting, tek eg til etteretning, men kan ikkje gå nærare inn i det. I ein så tidleg periode som 1600-talet er det vanskeleg å gå inn i materialet, me her ved arkivet konsentrerer oss om nyare kjeldemateriale etter at kyrkjebøkene byrja. Men det er interessant at du arbeider vidare med desse ressonnementa til Gudmund Balvoll i hans utmerkede bok om folk og gardar i Vik i Sogn. Til orientering.

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