Selbu, Sør-Trondelag - Siblings Help

[Nathan LaFon]

Hello, I have 5 siblings I am trying to find out what happened to them. I have managed to locate their baptismal records here:

 

1. Jon Sivertsen - 1792 (per the online Selbu farm book) - Parents are Sivert Jonsen and Gjertrud Ellevsdatter: Could not find his baptismal/birth record

2. Ellev Sivertsen - 1794 - parents are Sivert Jonsen and Gjertrud Ellevsdatter: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/16311/162 (left page half way down)

3. Helge Sivertsdatter -  1797 - parents are Sivert Jonsen and Gjertrud Ellevsdatter: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/16311/204 ( Right page half way down)

4. Marit (Mali) Sivertsdatter - 1799 - parents are Sivert Jonsen and Gjertrud Ellevsdatter: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/16311/247 (Right page, half way down)

5, Ole Sivertsen and Nils Sivertsen (twins) - 1802 - parents are Sivert Jonsen and Gjertreud Ellevsdatter: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/16312/16 (bottom of left page, and top of right page)

 

I don't speak Norwegian. I am wondering of these baptismal records give a date for the baptism or a date for the birth. I know they are early records, so they may not have that information. 

 

I am hoping that a definite date can help me find out what happened to them. The Selbu farm book (online) does not say what happened to them outside of Nils who died as an infant and Mali who married. I am trying to find out if any of the others got married. Hopefully, starting with a birth/baptismal date will help me? Unless anyone here has any different suggestions. 

 

Thank you for your time in advance!

[Randi Elisabeth Haugros]

Giertud and Jon in Census 1801, Øvervig farm in Selbu:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058451002339

Your links to the churchbooks:

 

Ellev, 1794:

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 695/L1138: Parish register (official) no. 695A02 /1, 1757-1801, p. 158
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070920630068

Helge, 1797:

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 695/L1138: Parish register (official) no. 695A02 /1, 1757-1801, p. 200a
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070920630110

 

Marit, Mali, 1799 (Magli in census1801)

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 695/L1138: Parish register (official) no. 695A02 /1, 1757-1801, p. 242
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070920630153
 

The twins 1802: 

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 695/L1140: Parish register (official) no. 695A03, 1801-1815, p. 17
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070920630210
 

 

 

 

Endret November 16, 2020 av Randi Elisabeth Haugros

[Carl Nilsen]

Ellev Siversen Øvrevig (born ca 1794) marries Bereth Iversdatter in Trondheim, 1820-10-24 (no 47, right page):

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16329/148

 

Children:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000042173913

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000041590695

 

There is an Ellev Sivertsen 28 years old who dies in Strinda, 1823-06-23 (number 27)

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16282/13
 

If this is the same as the one who married Bereth Iversdatter, he must have died very shortly after the conception of his last child, born in Strinda, march 1824.

Endret November 16, 2020 av Carl Nilsen

[Carl Nilsen]

Sivert and Giertrud's engagement is here, in 1792-06-27 (right page, almost at the top):

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16311/148

 

Jon's baptism in 1792 is here, third from the top on the right page:

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16311/149

[Nathan LaFon]

Thank you Carl. I can’t believe I missed that record for Jon.
 

Do any of the birth/baptismal records for the siblings provide a birthdate or baptism date that you could translate for me?

[Carl Nilsen]

The records provide baptism dates, not birth dates, and they are given in the lithurgic calendar. I am not 100% steady on this, but taking a shot at the example for Jon:

I guess this means the 16th Sunday after Pentacost (Trinity Sunday), but someone please correct me if I am wrong.

 

I found this link that explains most of the latin lith. calendar expressions:

https://www.innherred.net/genealogi/latin.htm

[Pål Martinussen]

They all have baptism date.

Jon: Dom. XVI Trinit. (16th sunday after Trinity sunday), in 1792 sept 23rd.

Ellev: Dom. IIda p. Epiphan. (2nd sunday after Epiphany (3 holy Kings day, Jan. 6th)), in 1794 Jan. 19th.

Helge: 4de Søndag efter Helligetrekonger (4th sunday after 3 holy Kings day), in 1797 Jan. 29th She was born Jan. 25th

Maglie and Marit: 22de Søndag efter Trinit. (22 sunday after Trinity sunday), in 1799 Oct 20th. They were born Oct 12th.

Niels  and Ole: Midfastesøndag, in 1802 March 28th. They were born March 25th.

 

 

Endret November 16, 2020 av Pål Martinussen

[Åsbjørg Susort]

Calendar for "translation"

https://youronlineroots.com/helligdager.php