Hvor ble det av Bjarne Emil Nilsen f. 08.10.1898 i Røyken, Buskerud?

[Ronny Stolen Tollefsen]

Hei :)

 

Jeg prøver å finne ut hvor det ble av Bjarne Emil Nilsen f. 08.10.1898

 

Lenke til dåp, nr 1 1899. 

Røyken kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0009: Ministerialbok nr. 9, 1898-1911, s. 8

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1213/12

 

Hans foreldre var gift mand murer Nils Nilsen og enke Betsy Kristine Pedersdatter 

 

Jeg har all informasjon om Nils Nilsen og kan følge ham framover i folketellingene og vet at han ikke hadde noe mer med Bjarne Emil å gjøre.

 

Betsy Kristine Pedersdatter som var tidligere gift med Edvard Kristiansen g. 1890. De fikk to døtre sammen,Karen Kristine og Marie Emelia.

 

I folketellingen for Kristiania bor Betsy sammen med sine tre barn og jobber som vaskekone. lenke: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037045176240

 

I FT for Røyken i 1910 befinner Bjarne Emil seg på gården Engeland, som "bortsat fattig"

 

Etter det har jeg ikke flere spor. Jeg finner heller ikke moren Betsy Kristine i 1920 folketellingene. Her er en lenke til Gol bygdebok, der det står om Betsy Kristine:

 

https://www.nb.no/items/41da5ab3b1d9151d8c79391662fd6cbb?page=403&searchText="betsy kristine"

 

Hans to søstre emigrer til Amerika. Karen Kristine emigrer i 1912 med Minneapolis som reisemål: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001126875

 

og Marie Emelia drar året før i 1911. Hun ankommer New York 15 mai 1911. Jeg har bare en lenke til ancestry.com: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7488&h=4008526735&ssrc=pt&tid=37748757&pid=292280687588&usePUB=true

 

Håper noen kan hjelpe meg :)

[Matthias Kolberg]

Nå var han sikkert ikke den eneste Bjarne Nilsen som ble født i Norge i 1898, men her er i alle fall én som ankommer Boston i 1920

Name: Bjarne Nilsen
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Sex: Male
Age: 22
Birth Year (Estimated): 1898
Birth Country: Norwegian
Ship Name: Ruby
Affiliate Film Number: 14

Affiliate Publication Number: T938
Affiliate Publication Title: Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, Massachusetts, 1917-1943
GS Film Number: 001534558
Digital Folder Number: 007540943
Digital Folder Number: 007540943
Image Number: 00253
 

Citing this Record
"Massachusetts, Boston Crew Lists, 1917-1943," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVMP-Z99S

: 16 March 2018), Bjarne Nilsen, 1920; citing Immigration, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States, NARA microfilm publication T938 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,534,558.

[Ronny Stolen Tollefsen]

Takk for informasjonen, Matthias! 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Her har du ankomsten til Kristine:

 

Name:	Kristine Kristiansen
Arrival Date:	1 May 1912
Birth Date:	abt 1890
Last Permanent Address:	Nrw
Other Last Permanent Address:	Riken
Age:	22
Gender:	Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality:	Scandinavian
Port of Departure:	Christiania
Port of Arrival:	New York, New York, USA
Ship Name:	Oscar II

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7488&h=4037325085&tid=&pid=&queryId=4f8cc3161e251b25628e94504921a1a1&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dKC1517&_phstart=successSource

 

Reiste til søsteren Margit  Kristiansen co Haug Luverne Minn.

 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Ronny, har du fødselsdatoene på søstrere?

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Dette er vel Marie:

 

Name:	Marie Christiansen
Gender:	Female
Age:	23
Birth Date:	1892
Marriage Date:	3 Mar 1915
Marriage Place:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Spouse's Name:	Hans Lee
Spouse Gender:	Male
Spouse Age:	24
Spouse Birth Date:	1891
Event Type:	Marriage
FHL Film Number:	1404513

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1920:

Name:	Marie A Lee
Age:	27
Birth Year:	abt 1893
Birthplace:	Norway
Home in 1920:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Residence Date:	1920
Race:	White
Gender:	Female
Immigration Year:	1909
Relation to Head of House:	Wife
Marital Status:	Married
Spouse's Name:	Hans C Lee
Native Tongue:	Norwegian
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Naturalization Status:	Naturalized
Attended School:	No
Able to read:	Yes
Able to Write:	Yes
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship Hans C Lee 28 Head Marie A Lee 27 Wife Esther M Lee 3 Daughter

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1930:

Name:	Marie Lee
Birth Year:	abt 1892
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Age in 1930:	38
Birthplace:	Iowa
Marital Status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Wife
Homemaker?:	Yes
Home in 1930:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota, USA
Map of Home:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Dwelling Number:	77
Family Number:	77
Age at First Marriage:	25
Attended School:	No
Able to Read and Write:	Yes
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Household Members Age Relationship Ham Lee 39 Head Marie Lee 38 Wife Ester Lee 14 Daughter

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1940:

Name:	Marie Lee
Age:	48
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1892
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Birthplace:	Norway
Marital Status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Wife
Home in 1940:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Map of Home in 1940:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Inferred Residence in 1935:	Luverne, Rock, Minnesota
Residence in 1935:	Luverne
Citizenship:	Naturalized
Sheet Number:	5B
Attended School or College:	No
Highest Grade Completed:	Elementary school, 8th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939:	0
Income:	0
Income Other Sources:	No
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship Hans Lee 49 Head Marie Lee 48 Wife Esther Lee 24 Daughter

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Død:

 

Name:	Marie Emelia Lee
Death Age:	85
Record Type:	Death
Birth Date:	28 Jan 1892
Death Date:	6 Dec 1977
Death Place:	Nobles
Death Registration Date:	1977
Mother's Maiden Name:	Ingebretson
Certificate Number:	030497
Record Number:	2695416

 

 

Gravsted:

 

Marie Christiansen Lee (1892-1977) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

Name:	Marie Lee
Gender:	F (Female)
Birth Date:	28 Jan 1892
Birth Place:	Norway
Death Date:	1977
Death Place:	Rock County, Minnesota, United States of America
Cemetery:	Maplewood Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:	Luverne, Rock County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?:	N
Spouse:	Hans Christian Lee
Children:	Esther Margaret Ahrendt

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til mannen Hans (hadde håpet at ved å følge søsteren kunne lede meg til Bjarne)

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 24 Jan 1976, Sat
• Page 2

[Ronny Stolen Tollefsen]

Takk skal du ha, Oddgeir for å ha funnet Marie Emilia i USA.  Her er hennes søster gift på samme sted. Kanskje hun og søsteren ble gift med to brødre?

 

Name

Karen Kristina Kristiansen

Gender

Female

Age

24

Birth Date

1890

Marriage Date

27 Feb 1914

Marriage Place

Luverne, Rock, Minnesota

Spouse's Name

Karl Laurits Lee

Spouse Gender

Male

Spouse Age

26

Spouse Birth Date

1888

Event Type

Marriage

FHL Film Number

1404513

 

Endret April 5, 2021 av Ronny Stolen Tollefsen

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til datteren:

 

Name:	Esther Lee Ahrendt
Gender:	Female
Death Age:	79
Birth Date:	10 Jan 1916
Birth Place:	Luverne
Residence Place:	LUVERNE, Minn.
Death Date:	12 Nov 1995
Obituary Date:	16 Nov 1995
Obituary Place:	Sioux Falls, South Dakota, United States of America
Child:	JamesPhyllis FiegenEvonne Evenson

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 16 Nov 1995, Thu
• Page 13

 

 

 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1920:

Name:	Carl L Lee[Carlie Lee]
Age:	31
Birth Year:	abt 1889
Birthplace:	Norway
Home in 1920:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota
House Number:	Farm
Residence Date:	1920
Race:	White
Gender:	Male
Immigration Year:	1903
Relation to Head of House:	Head
Marital Status:	Married
Spouse's Name:	Christine Lee
Native Tongue:	Norwegian
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Occupation:	Farmer
Industry:	General Farm
Employment Field:	Own Account
Home Owned or Rented:	Rented
Naturalization Status:	Alien
Able to read:	Yes
Able to Write:	Yes
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship Carl L Lee 31 Head Christine Lee 29 Wife

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1930:

Name:	Carl L Lee
Birth Year:	abt 1888
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Age in 1930:	42
Birthplace:	Norway
Marital Status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Head
Home in 1930:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota, USA
Map of Home:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota
Dwelling Number:	29
Family Number:	29
Home Owned or Rented:	Rented
Radio Set:	Yes
Lives on Farm:	Yes
Age at First Marriage:	26
Attended School:	No
Able to Read and Write:	Yes
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway
Language Spoken:	Norwegian
Immigration Year:	1903
Naturalization:	Alien
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Occupation:	Farmer
Industry:	Gen Farming
Class of Worker:	Employer
Employment:	Yes
Household Members Age Relationship Carl L Lee 42 Head Christina Lee 40 Wife Mabel Lee 10 Daughter Walter Lee 7 Son Herman Kremser 33 Lodger Hired Man (Lodger)

[Oddgeir Fossli]

FT1940:

Name:	Carl L Lee
Respondent:	Yes
Age:	51
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1889
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birthplace:	Norway
Marital Status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Head
Home in 1940:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota
Map of Home in 1940:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota
Farm:	Yes
Inferred Residence in 1935:	Vienna, Rock, Minnesota
Residence in 1935:	Vienna
Resident on farm in 1935:	Yes
Citizenship:	Alien
Sheet Number:	2B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation:	29
Occupation:	Farmer
House Owned or Rented:	Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented:	1500
Attended School or College:	No
Highest Grade Completed:	Elementary school, 8th grade
Class of Worker:	Working on own account
Income:	1000
Income Other Sources:	Yes
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship Carl L Lee 51 Head Karen C Lee 49 Wife Mabel Lee 20 Daughter Walter Lee 17 Son Lloyd Lee 9 Son

[Ronny Stolen Tollefsen]

12 minutter siden, Oddgeir Fossli skrev:

Ronny, har du fødselsdatoene på søstrere?

Karen Kristine 15.05.1890 og Marie Emilia 28.01.1892

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Død:

 

Name:	Carl Laurits Lee
Death Age:	86
Record Type:	Death
Birth Date:	12 Apr 1888
Death Date:	5 Nov 1974
Death Place:	Rock
Death Registration Date:	1974
Mother's Maiden Name:	Kjous
Certificate Number:	032217
Record Number:	1928700

 

 

Name:	Karen Christine Lee
Death Age:	77
Record Type:	Death
Birth Date:	15 May 1890
Death Date:	24 May 1967
Death Place:	Rock
Death Registration Date:	1967
Certificate Number:	015024
Record Number:	1673028

 

 

Gravsted:

 

Name:	Carl L Lee
Birth Date:	1888
Death Date:	1974
Cemetery:	Maplewood Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:	Luverne, Rock County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?:	N
Children:	Mabel L Janssen

 

Carl L Lee (1888-1974) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

Name:	Christine Lee
Birth Date:	1890
Death Date:	1967
Cemetery:	Maplewood Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:	Luverne, Rock County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?:	N
Children:	Mabel L Janssen

 

 

Christine Lee (1890-1967) - Find A Grave Memorial

[Ronny Stolen Tollefsen]

De to søstrene ble gift med hver sin bror i Luverne, Rock County i Minnesota. Karl Laurits og Hans Kristian Lie, fra Nittedal.

Men desverre ingen spor av Bjarne Emil eller moren Betsy Kristine. 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til Carl:

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 07 Nov 1974, Thu
• Page 2

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til Mabel:

 

Name:	Mabel L. Janssen
Gender:	Female
Death Age:	80
Birth Date:	abt 1921
Residence Place:	LUVERNE, Minn.
Death Date:	11 Jan 2001
Death Place:	Worthington, Minn.
Obituary Date:	12 Jan 2001
Obituary Place:	Sioux Falls, South Dakota, United States of America

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 12 Jan 2001, Fri
• Page 14

 

 

Name:	Mabel Lillian Janssen[Mabel Janssen][Mabel Lillian Lee]
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Birth Date:	25 Feb 1920
Birth Place:	Kenneth Rock, Minnesota
Death Date:	11 Jan 2001
Father:	Carl L Lee
Mother:	Karen C Christensen
SSN:	503661746
Signature on SSN Card:	Richard Janssen II
Relationship of Signature:	Signature name differs from NH’s name.
Notes:	Feb 1968: Name listed as MABEL LILLIAN JANSSEN; 20 Jan 2001: Name listed as MABEL JANSSEN

Endret April 5, 2021 av Oddgeir Fossli

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til Walter:

 

Name:	Walter Elmer Lee
Gender:	Male
Death Age:	78
Birth Date:	abt 1924
Residence Place:	Luverne, MN
Death Date:	31 Mar 2002
Death Place:	Sioux Falls, SD
Obituary Date:	3 Apr 2002
Obituary Place:	Sioux Falls, South Dakota, United States of America

 

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 03 Apr 2002, Wed
• Page 16

 

 

Name:	Walter Elmer Lee[Walter E Lee]
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birth Date:	2 Apr 1923
Birth Place:	Kenneth Rock, Minnesota
Death Date:	31 Mar 2002
Father:	Carl Lee
Mother:	Christina Christenson
SSN:	468308344
Disability Status:	Disability denied - no record of type.
Notes:	Jan 1947: Name listed as WALTER ELMER LEE; 09 Apr 2002: Name listed as WALTER E LEE

 

 

 

 

 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Walters gravsted med info til kone etc

 

Walter Elmer Lee (1923-2002) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

Walter Elmer Lee, 78, Luverne, died Sunday, March 31, 2002, at Royal C. Johnson Veterans Administration Medical Center in Sioux Falls, S.D.

Services were Wednesday, April 3, at Dingmann Funeral Home in Luverne. The Rev. Dell B. Sanderson officiated. Burial with military honors was in Maplewood Cemetery, Luverne.

He was born to Carl and Khristine (Khristiansen) Lee on April 2, 1923, in Vienna Township, rural Kenneth. He attended country school in rural Kenneth and graduated from Luverne High School in 1942. He attended one year of college. After serving in the U.S. Army Air Corps in 1946, he returned to Kenneth to farm.

He married Lila Herschberger on Feb. 10, 1954. Together they farmed and worked as custom harvesters near Kenneth for 27 years. In 1981 the couple retired and moved to Luverne.

Mr. Lee was a member of Luverne American Legion Dell Hogan Post #123 for 29 years where he served as a past commander.

Survivors include his wife, Lila Lee, Luverne; two sons, Mark (Joanne) Lee, and their two sons, Jason and Christopher, Dell Rapids, S.D., and Gary Lee, Magnolia; two daughters, Terry (Vic) Rueb, and their daughter, Melissa, rural Luverne, and Patty (Bill) Creamer, Moore, Mont.; one sister-in-law, Arlene Lee, Kanaranzi, and one brother-in-law, Richard Janssen, Luverne.

Mr. Lee was preceded in death by his parents, one brother, Lloyd Lee, and one sister, Mabel Janssen.
Dingmann Funeral Home, Luverne, was in charge of arrangements.
:

 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Nekrologen til Lloyd:

 

Name:	Lloyd Lee
Death Age:	69
Birth Date:	abt 1932
Residence Place:	KANARANZL Minn.
Death Date:	3 Jan 2001
Death Place:	Midland, Texas
Obituary Date:	4 Jan 2001
Obituary Place:	Sioux Falls, South Dakota, United States of America

 

 

• Argus-Leader (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
• 04 Jan 2001, Thu
• Page 10

 

 

 

Name:	Lloyd M. Lee
Social Security Number:	474-42-9898
Birth Date:	24 Jan 1931
Issue Year:	1956
Issue State:	Minnesota
Last Residence:	56146, Kanaranzi, Rock, Minnesota, USA
Death Date:	3 Jan 2001

 

 

Lloyd Lee (1931-2001) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

 

 

[Oddgeir Fossli]

Dette ble et sidesteg til spørsmålet om Bjarne og moren Betzy, hadde håpet at døtrene/søskene i USA kunne gitt et spor, men ikke noe hell så langt. Jeg kunne ikke finne noen nekrologer for søsterene.

Endret April 5, 2021 av Oddgeir Fossli