Ole ENGELBREKTSEN - father of Jan Olsen Strøte?

[Jay Hagfeldt]

According to Swedish records, Jan Olsen Strøte was born on 9 Feb 1859 to Ole ENGELBREKTSEN of Våler parish in Norway and Kjerstin Jonsdotter Högfeldt of Östmark, Värmland. Ole and Kjerstin didn't marry. Most Swedish records record Ole’s name as the father, I suspect because they wanted to keep track of the father so he could provide financial assistance for his illegitimate son. 
Would Norwegian church records also record information about aid to the illegitimate son?

 

Ole Engelbrektsen would be my gg grandfather and I haven’t been able to find a DNA match for a 4th cousin that would help me identify the correct Ole Engelbrektsen. So I’m trying to identify him thru genealogical sources. I believe Ole lived on a farm with some form of the name Strøte in Våler parish, probably in Hedmark. I’m thinking that if Norwegian Church records recorded Jan Olsen Strøte’s illegitimate birth or maybe his support, it would point to the correct father. 
Any help or opinion on this would be greatly appreciated. 

Regards. 
Jay Hagfeldt

[Sven Hjortland]

47 minutter siden, Jay Hagfeldt skrev:

lived on a farm with some form of the name Strøte in Våler parish

Could it be Stræte? 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/properties?s=&from=&to=&municipality_parish=&address=stræte&municipality_no=&plot_no=&unit_no=&property_no=&serial_no=&urban_property_no=&fire_ass_no=&m[0]=0426&sort=rel

[Sven Hjortland]

?? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038044003420

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

Våler parish records 1859

SAH, Våler prestekontor, Hedmark, Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1849-1878, s. 58
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070125350431

But I cannot find Jan here (1858-60).

Indeed, you did not say that Jan was born here. - but if you do not know where, it is the "needle in a haystack".

[Sven Hjortland]

??https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000003686282

[Sven Hjortland]

9 minutter siden, Ivar S. Ertesvåg skrev:

Våler parish records 1859

SAH, Våler prestekontor, Hedmark, Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1849-1878, s. 58
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070125350431

But I cannot find Jan here (1858-60).

Indeed, you did not say that Jan was born here. - but if you do not know where, it is the "needle in a haystack".

Jan was born in Östmark, Sweden: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0039743_00227

Endret Juli 6, 2021 av Sven Hjortland

[Anton Hagelee]

Jan Olson Ströte

 in the Sweden, Selected Indexed Household Clerical Surveys, 1880-1893

Name:Jan Olson Ströte

Gender:Man (Male)

Birth Date:8 feb 1859

Year Range:1881 - 1885

Residence :Östmark, Värmland, Sverige (Sweden)

Village, Farm, or Croft:Beväringsmän

GID Number:550.41.41600

 

The transcription of the birth date seems to be wrong. The month is clearly 1 ie Jan, the date is a little harder to make out. Perhaps a 7 or an 8.

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=9731&h=746962&tid=&pid=&queryId=912e5c358f1e6f93106ca7771914d219&usePUB=true&_phsrc=HvY6&_phstart=successSource

 

Endret Juli 7, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Jay Hagfeldt]

I think Stræte is a strong possibility.  It is located in Våler parish in Hedmark fylke, not far from Östmark parish in Värmland län, where Jan Olsen Ströte was born. 
Ole Embretsen from the Kjernsmoen farm in the Straete Census District in Våler parish on the 1865 census is a good possibility too. He was married with several children at the time which may explain why he didn’t marry Kjerstin Jonsdotter Hoegfeldt. 
I’ll do some more research on Ole Embretsen to see if there is anything to tie him to Jan Olsen Ströte. 
Maybe the priest in Östmark used Ströte to indicate an area instead of a farm. 

Hope to find something in the Norwegian Church records indicating that he was supporting an illegitimate son in Sweden where Jan was raised. 
 

Thank you all for your help. It gives me an avenue of research. 

 

Regards. 
Jay Hagfeldt

[Arild Kompelien]

Ole Embretsen at Kjernsmoen seems to be a good candidate, though he was a married man in 1859. There is an Ole Embretsen born at the farm Stræte in 1810, last entry page 350: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603280271

 

At these times Våler was a sub parish to Hof parish in Hedmark.

This Ole Embretsen was confirmed 1826, 17 years old, still at Stræte.

He married 31.12 1837 to Marte Johans/Johannesdattter. They lived at Rundberget in Våler then. Before marriage they had a daughter Johanna in 1836, Ole then at Kjernsmoen, Marte at Rundberget.

 

Kjernsmoen or Tjernsmoen was a sub farm to the Stræte farm. Later the same farm was called Bårå.

Endret Juli 7, 2021 av Arild Kompelien

[Jay Hagfeldt]

8 hours ago, Arild Kompelien said:

Ole Embretsen at Kjernsmoen seems to be a good candidate, though he was a married man in 1859. There is an Ole Embretsen born at the farm Stræte in 1810, last entry page 350: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603280271

 

At these times Våler was a sub parish to Hof parish in Hedmark.

This Ole Embretsen was confirmed 1826, 17 years old, still at Stræte.

He married 31.12 1837 to Marte Johans/Johannesdattter. They lived at Rundberget in Våler then. Before marriage they had a daughter Johanna in 1836, Ole then at Kjernsmoen, Marte at Rundberget.

 

Kjernsmoen or Tjernsmoen was a sub farm to the Stræte farm. Later the same farm was called Bårå.

Thank you, Arild, for that research.  I didn't know that it was a sub farm to Stræte.  

I'm thinking that if Ole Embretsen is the only person with a name similar to Ole Engelbretksen within a certain time period in the Våler sogn, it would also be strong evidence that Ole Embretsen is the person I'm looking for.  I'll be checking Church journals and notes in Våler for any mention of Ole Embretsen and Jan Olsen Ströte.  

Regards.  

Jay

[Arild Kompelien]

Ole Embretsen above is the only Ole Embretsen in Våler who has a connection to the Stræte farm.

This Ole Embretsen had many children and living descendants should be possible to find for DNA search.

 

If this Ole Embretsen is the right one and father to an illegitimate child in Östmark he didn't tell he was a married man. And being a married man it is also most likely that his wife neither heard of the child. Also not likely that this child ever came to Våler, but lived with his mother in Östmark? Do you have any information that indicates Jon came to Våler?

[Jay Hagfeldt]

38 minutes ago, Arild Kompelien said:

Ole Embretsen above is the only Ole Embretsen in Våler who has a connection to the Stræte farm.

This Ole Embretsen had many children and living descendants should be possible to find for DNA search.

 

If this Ole Embretsen is the right one and father to an illegitimate child in Östmark he didn't tell he was a married man. And being a married man it is also most likely that his wife neither heard of the child. Also not likely that this child ever came to Våler, but lived with his mother in Östmark? Do you have any information that indicates Jon came to Våler?

None at all. Jan went missing for 5 years when his mother died in 1876, and I’m unable to track his whereabouts from about 1884 until he was married in Minneapolis in 1890. 
The swedish records do not indicate Ole ever lived or visited in Östmark. 
I think that a DNA match with one of Ole’s descendants may be the only way to definitively confirm Ole as being the father. I know of someone here in the US that is a generation older than I. He would be a great grandson of Ole. So maybe the best course of action is to ask him if he could take a Y-DNA test and then research Ole’s line to locate an ancestor.   My wife and I are going to visit a family history library in early August. If a bygdebok exists for Våler sogn the library will have it. If not I’ll fill in his line using the records in Digitalarkivet. If you have any suggestions for another approach I’d be appreciative. 
Regards. 
Jay

[Arild Kompelien]

There is a bygdebok for Våler, but it is about 100 years old. It is a good book, but it does not mainly deal with family history, but farm history - who owned the farm and who the next owner was. Often the wife is not mentioned and normally only the child who took over a farm or bought another farm. Seldom more children mentioned. It says Embret Knutsson bought the farm Kjernsmoen that was later called Bårå. It also says Ole Embretsen was the owner in 1865, but his wife and children are not mentioned.