Tre syskon från Barbu som försvann i USA

[Ann-Sofie Hillerström]

Hej

Vid sekelskiftet emigrerar fyra syskon från Barbu, Arendal till USA.

 

Jag har bara lyckats hitta en av dem i USA och vill gärna veta vad som hände med de andra tre.

Det handlar om Hulda Josefine Hansen, född 19 juni 1876, i Öyestad

Olivia Agneta Hansen, född 23 feb 1883 i Barbu https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070216630093

Alfred Hansen, född 29 nov 1885 i Barbu https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070216630149

Oline Marie Hansen, född 23 mars 1888 i Barbu https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070216630191

 

Här är familjen i FT 1891 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052886000560

 

Hulda emigrerar 1892 från Kristiansand och 1897 kommer systern Olivia Agneta efter.

När Olivia emigrerar ska hon till systern Hulda Hansen i New York.

 

 

Alfred och Oline Marie finns med i FT 1900 men jag hittar dem sedan inte i några emigrantprotokoll.

 

När modern Andrea dör 1921 står det att alla fyra syskonen vistas i Amerika.

 

Oline Marie gifter sig med James Schroeder och bosätter sig i Newburgh, Orange, New York

 

 

 

Men vart tar Hulda, Olivia och Alfred vägen?

 

Det finns några tänkbara personer som heter Olivia Hansen men det är svårt att veta om det är rätt person eller inte.

 

Mvh

Ann-Sofie Hillerström

[Grethe Flood]

1 time siden, Ann-Sofie Hillerström skrev:

Alfred och Oline Marie finns med i FT 1900

 

For ordens skyld:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037215001688

https://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0990&kenr=003&bnr=0076&lnr=00

• Tellingsår: 1900
• Kommune: Barbu
• Kommunenummer: 0990
• Navn på bosted: Strømsbunes

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 6. Trykk på  for å se på tidslinjen for personen.

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	Navn	Familie-stilling	Sivil-stand	Yrke	Fødselsår	Fødested	Etnisitet
	Andrea Hansen	hm	e	Offentlig understottelse	1850	Fedde LM
	Hans Hansen	s	ug	Sagbrugsarbeider	1878	Øistad Ned
	Johan Hansen	s	ug	Sjømand Matros	1880	Øistad Ned
	Alfred Hansen	s	ug	Sagbrugsarbeide	1886	Barbu Ned
	Marie Hansen	d	ug	Datter	1888	Barbu Ned
	Lars Jensen	fl	ug	Fyrbøder Sagbrugs	1852	Froland

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

3 hours ago, Ann-Sofie Hillerström said:

Olivia Agneta Hansen, född 23 feb 1883 i Barbu https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070216630093

 

Et langskudd?

 

Olivea Thiel

in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Olivea Thiel[Oliver Thiel]

Birth Year:abt 1883

Gender:Female

Race:White

Age in 1930:47

Birthplace:Norway

Marital Status:Married

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Homemaker?:Yes

Home in 1930:Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA

Map of Home:Bronx, Bronx, New York

Street Address:EAST 162nd St.

Block:G

House Number:433

Dwelling Number:22

Family Number:178

Age at First Marriage:21

Attended School:No

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

Language Spoken:Norwegian

Immigration Year:1897

Naturalization:Naturalized

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Simon Thiel54Head

Olivea Thiel47Wife

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30707778:6224

Endret August 13, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Ekteskap i New Jersey 

 

Olivia Hansen

 in the New Jersey, U.S., Marriage Index, 1901-2016

Name:Olivia Hansen

Maiden Name:Hansen

Gender:Female

Marriage Date:1904

Marriage Place:New Jersey, USA

Spouse:Simon Thiel

Certificate Number:42 298

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61253&h=901139159&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2442

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Olivia Thies

in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Name:Olivia Thies[Olivia Thiel]

Respondent:Yes

Age:57

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883

Gender:Female

Race:White

Birthplace:Norway

Marital Status:Married

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Home in 1940:New York, Bronx, New York

Map of Home in 1940:New York, Bronx, New York

Street:East 160th Street

Inferred Residence in 1935:New York, Bronx, New York

Residence in 1935:New York, Bronx, New York

Citizenship:Naturalized

Sheet Number:8A

Attended School or College:No

Highest Grade Completed:Elementary school, 7th grade

Weeks Worked in 1939:0

Income:0

Income Other Sources:No

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Sisson Thies64Head

Olivia Thies57Wife

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4439620:2442

[Anton Hagelee]

Olivia Thiel

 in the New York, New York, U.S., Death Index, 1949-1965

Name:Olivia Thiel

Age:76

Birth Date:abt 1883

Death Date:30 Nov 1959

Death Place:Manhattan, New York, New York, USA

Certificate Number:25615

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61461&h=900231&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2442

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Olivia Thiel

 in the New York, New York, U.S., Index to Birth Certificates, 1866-1909

Name:Olivia Thiel

Maiden Name:Hansen

Gender :Female

Residence Age:23

Birth Place:Norway

Residence Address:East 160 Street

Number of Children Living:One

Certificate Number:3812

Spouse:Simmon Thiel

Child:Margarethe Gertrude Thiel

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=NYCMABirths&indiv=try&h=30023195

 

1910 FT 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/127062874:7884

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

4 hours ago, Ann-Sofie Hillerström said:

Det handlar om Hulda Josefine Hansen, född 19 juni 1876, i Öyestad

 

Olivia ble gift i New Jersey med Simon Thiel. I New Jersey bor en Hilda Josephine Thiel kone til Mathias Thiel. 

 

Mathias Thiel

 in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name:Mathias Thiel

Race:White

Birth Date:29 Jun 1875

Residence Date:1917-1918

Street Address:742 Jackson St

Residence Place:Hudson County, New Jersey, USA

Draft Board:1

Height:Tall

Hair Color:Mixed Gray

Eye Color:Gray

Spouse:Hilda Josephine Thiel

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=WW1draft&indiv=try&h=33232220

[Anton Hagelee]

Og heter Hilda J Hansen. 

 

Dorothy Margaret Peters

in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Name:Dorothy Margaret Peters[Dorothy M Peters][Dorothy Margaret Thiel]

Gender:Female

Race:White

Birth Date:26 Mar 1904

Birth Place:Guttenberg H, New Jersey[Guttenberg, New Jersey]

Death Date:18 Jun 1999

Father:Mathias Thiel

Mother:Hilda J Hansen

SSN:157207714

Notes:Sep 1944: Name listed as DOROTHY MARGARET PETERS; 25 Jun 1999: Name listed as DOROTHY M PETERS

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/16259783:60901

 

[Anton Hagelee]

I New Jersey FT finne Hulda Thiel, født Jun 1876.

 

Hulda Thiel

 in the New Jersey, U.S., State Census, 1915

Name:Hulda Thiel

Gender:Female

Race:W

Age:39

Marital status:Married

Birth Date:Jun 1876

Birth Place:Norway

Residence Year:1915

Street Address:Jackson St

Residence Place:West New York, West New York, New Jersey, USA

Enumeration District:Second

Ward:Second

Years Since Arrival:22

Can Read:Yes

Can Write:Yes

Can Speak English:Yes

Father's Birth Place:Norway

Mother's Birth Place:Norway

Page Number:14

Line Number:27

House Number:742

Dwelling Number:241

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61558&h=365865&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Hilda Thiel 1905 New Jersey FT, født Jun 1876

 

I 1910 FT, er Hilda Thiel født i 1877, og ankommer i 1893. I samme hus er broren Alfred Hansen.

 

Hilda Thiel

in the 1910 United States Federal Census

Name:Hilda Thiel

Age in 1910:33

Birth Date:1877[1877]

Birthplace:Norway

Home in 1910:West New york Ward 2, Hudson, New Jersey, USA

Street:Jackson Street

Race:White

Gender:Female

Immigration Year:1893

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Mathews Thiel

Father's Birthplace:Norway

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

Native Tongue:English

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Years Married:11

Number of Children Born:5

Number of Children Living:3

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Mathews Thiel33Head

Hilda Thiel33Wife

Doherty Thiel6Daughter

William Thiel4Son

Margaret Thiel2Daughter

Alfred Hansen21Brother-in-law

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/171998752:7884

Endret August 14, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

I 1920 FT, heter Josephine Thiel  og bor sammen med familien er en broren Alfred Hansen.

 

Josephine Thiel

in the 1920 United States Federal Census

Name:Josephine Thiel

Age:43

Birth Year:abt 1877

Birthplace:Norway

Home in 1920:West New York Ward 3, Hudson, New Jersey

Street:Jackson Street.

Residence Date:1920

Race:White

Gender:Female

Immigration Year:1892

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Mathias Thiel

Father's Birthplace:Sweden

Mother's Birthplace:Norway

Native Tongue:Norwegian

Able to Speak English:Yes

Naturalization Status:Naturalized

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Neighbors:View others on page

Household MembersAgeRelationship

Mathias Thiel44Head

Josephine Thiel43Wife

Dorathy Thiel15Daughter

William Thiel13Son

Margaret Thiel11Daughter

August Thiel8Son

Walter Thiel4Son

Howard Thiel1Son

Alfred Hansen37Brother-in-law

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/111714317:6061

 

 

Endret August 14, 2021 av Anton Hagelee

[Ann-Sofie Hillerström]

Fantastiskt Anton, du verkar ha hittat alla tre!

 

Jag har letat efter dem i flera år och du löser det på några timmar.

Tack så jättemycket för hjälpen!
 

/Ann-Sofie Hillerström