Jakob Petter Bartolomei Wulff

[Pamela N-I]

I have run into difficulties finding the correct "Jacob Wulff" in Vik. It's my understanding that he married Martha Andersdatter Hove in 1867. They emigrated to the United States on 5 June 1875, if the following article has it right: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/84979590/martha-andersdatter-wulff-silverness  

 

While the above article lists his name as "Jacob L. Wulff", my family on the Wulff side say his name is either Jacob (Jakob) Bartolomei Peter (Petter or Peder) Wulff or Jacob (Jakob) Peter (Petter or Peder) Bartolomei Wulff. 

 

I believe Jakob was born some time in 1842.

 

Can you please help me get started? Many thanks! 

[Matthias Kolberg]

Jacob Bartholomæi Wulff Østensen from Lilleøren, 25 years, married Martha Andersdatter from Hove on June 12 1867. No 15

SAB, Vik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-81501Ministerialbok nr. A 9, 1866-1877, s. 231
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070116330154

His father is named Østen Olsen.

 

He can be found on Lille Øren in the 1865 census with his parents

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038253000590

 

He was baptized Jacob Peter Vulff Batholomæi on January 23, 1842.

Being the son of Østen Olsen, he would also be called Østensen 

No 6:

SAB, Vik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-81501Ministerialbok nr. A 7, 1831-1845, s. 64
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650358
 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Matthias Kolberg

[Matthias Kolberg]

Jacob Østensen Lilleøren and his family left Vik for America on April 28, 1875

No.s 22-27

SAB, Vik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-81501Ministerialbok nr. A 9, 1866-1877, s. 323
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070116330215
 

[Rigmor J. Eriksen]

Hei

Dette gjelder opplysninger om min mor. Har prøvd å finne det ut selv uten å lykkes. Vet ikke om dette er riktig forum, men tar en sjanse….

 

Navn: Jenny Jonsen Flissundet 06.13.1906.

 

1. Hun giftet seg to ganger, tror jeg. Første gang i 1936? Og med hvem?

    Andre gang giftet hun seg med min far (Reidar Fridtjof Eriksen)

den  02.11.1940 i Sagene kirke, Oslo.

 

2. Er også interessert i en bil med reg. nr. A 22174. Eiere.

 

3. På slutten av 1930-tallet var det en barber- og frisørsalong i    Bjerregaardsgt., Oslo. Hvem eide denne?

 

Mvh

Rigmor J. Eriksen

 

 

 

 

 

[Inge Nygård]

6 timer siden, Rigmor J. Eriksen skrev:

Hei

Dette gjelder opplysninger om min mor. Har prøvd å finne det ut selv uten å lykkes. Vet ikke om dette er riktig forum, men tar en sjanse….

 

Navn: Jenny Jonsen Flissundet 06.13.1906.

 

1. Hun giftet seg to ganger, tror jeg. Første gang i 1936? Og med hvem?

    Andre gang giftet hun seg med min far (Reidar Fridtjof Eriksen)

den  02.11.1940 i Sagene kirke, Oslo.

 

 

Sjå svar i denne tråden:

 

[Anton Hagelee]

13 hours ago, Matthias Kolberg said:

Jacob Østensen Lilleøren and his family left Vik for America on April 28, 1875

No.s 22-27

SAB, Vik sokneprestembete, SAB/A-81501Ministerialbok nr. A 9, 1866-1877, s. 323
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070116330215

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000657100

 

Arrival into New York, Jacob is nr 9, (529) kand  Martha is 530 etc. 

 

Martha Andersdatter

 in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name:Martha Andersdatter

Gender:Female

Ethnicity/ Nationality:Swedish

Age:29

Birth Date:abt 1846

Place of Origin:Sweden

Departure Port:Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland

Destination:USA

Arrival Date:24 May 1875

Arrival Port:New York, New York, USA

Ship Name:Egypt

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The record for Jacob was a little harder to find. The transcription of his last name as Liboran did not help. Do not worry that the family is called Swedish. A common American habit to give all Scandinavians to Sweden. 

 

Jacobs Liboran

 in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name:Jacobs Liboran

Gender:Male

Ethnicity/ Nationality:Swedish

Age:34

Birth Date:abt 1841

Place of Origin:Sweden

Departure Port:Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland

Destination:USA

Arrival Date:24 May 1875

Arrival Port:New York, New York, USA

Ship Name:Egypt

 

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=xqz11&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&dbid=7488&gsfn=ja*&gsfn_x=1&gsln_x=1&msbdy=1841&msbdy_x=1&msbdp=2&msady=1875&msady_x=1&_F0005959=egypt&_F0005959_x=1&new=1&rank=1&uidh=bz3&redir=false&msT=1&gss=angs-d&pcat=40&fh=3&h=16389287&recoff=&ml_rpos=4&queryId=bbe7d4e492de0ecae04d85d293ac8177

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Based on the baptism record posted above, this is likely the marriage record of the parents of Jacob. 

 

Osten Olsen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Osten Olsen

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:07 Jan 1839

Marriage Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Spouse:Sigrid Jacobsdr

FHL Film Number:126586

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1903418:60095?_phsrc=xqz18&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=osten&gsln=olsen&ml_rpos=1&queryId=55a719c8956f45d9ec41f36eca2444ab

 

Original record is Nr. 2 at the bottom of the page.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650449

 

This transcribed record gives you a little more information and is easier to read. But there is an error in it. It gives her name as Sigrid Jensdatter but should have been Jacobsdatter. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009479067

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The marriage record of Østen Olsen and Sigrid Jacobsdatter gives their birth years as about 1806. Østen's fathers name is Ole Olsen so this is probably his baptism record. 

 

Osten Olsen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Osten Olsen

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:30 Sep 1806

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Ole Olsen

Mother:Ingelev Ostensdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/8878622:60092?_phsrc=iJk2&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=osten&ml_rpos=1&queryId=f8bf61ce98b424a911e5ff6bc1a3b356

 

The original record is the second one down on the right hand page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523640685

 

Transcribed version 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010452340

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Based on the same procedure, this is likely the baptism of the wife of Østen. 

 

Sigri Jacobsen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Sigri Jacobsen[Sigri Hansen]

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:02 Apr 1808

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Jacob Hansen

Mother:Synneva Johannisdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7454534:60092?_phsrc=iJk5&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=sig*&ml_rpos=3&queryId=ae6f1df0c37d4c169020b994fb97cf90

 

The original record is the first record under April on the left page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650024

 

Transcribed version 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010452805

 

 

Interesting that the farm name for couple  is Wulf.

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is Ingeleiv Østensdatter in the 1801 Census, born about 1773 and not yet married. She is working as a servant girl on the Seim farm.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392000823

 

Ingeleiv and Ole Olsen had probably their first child in 1803. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010451535

 

Middle of the right hand page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523640672

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

For the other side of the family, here is Jacob Hansen Wolff and his wife Synneva Johannesdatter on the farm  Wiigøren  in the 1801 Census. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392000595

 

Probably their marriage in 1801.

 

Jacob Petter Bartholomai

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Jacob Petter Bartholomai

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:08 Mar 1801

Marriage Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Spouse:Synneva Johannisdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

Original record is the second one down from the top on the right hand page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650044

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000002209053

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

In the 1801 Census Jacob Hansen Wolff is listed as having been baptized in 1774.

 

This is likely his baptism record. 

 

Jacob Petter Hansen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Jacob Petter Hansen

Gender:Male

Birth Date:06 Apr 1774

Baptism Date:11 Apr 1774

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Hans Wulv

Mother:Siri Hermundsdr Wulv

FHL Film Number:126585

 

Original record is on the right hand page about the middle. Look for Jacob Peter.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523640499

 

There is a Family Tree on Geni.com that list the father as Hans Wulff Bartolomaei and the mother as Sigrid Hermundsdotter Bartolomaei.

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Hans-Bartolomaei/6000000037515843564?through=6000000037510409965

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

15 hours ago, Pamela N-I said:

They emigrated to the United States on 5 June 1875, if the following article has it right: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/84979590/martha-andersdatter-wulff-silverness  

 

Based on the FAG record this is likely the baptism of Martha born Nov 6 and baptized Nov 9.

 

Martha Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Martha Andersen[Martha Johnsen]

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:09 Nov 1845

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Anders Johnsen

Mother:Martha Olsdr

FHL Film Number:126586

 

Nr. 112 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650387\

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Anders and Martha had another daughter named Ingeborg. 

 

Nr. 75

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070306620153

 

The three of them on Hove in the 1865 Census 

 

The three of them emigrated to America in 1866. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038253001244

 

Anders Jonsen Hoove

in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name:Anders Jonsen Hoove

Gender:Male

Arrival Age:56

Birth Year:abt 1810

Arrival Date:May 1866

Arrival Port:Canada

Vessel:Brodrene

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7142677:1263?_phsrc=FPd1&_phstart=successSource&gsln=hoove&ml_rpos=1&queryId=58ef68c9197b7c0c29687b9541e08fe8

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Probably the marriage of Anders Johnsen and Martha Olsdatter in 1832.

 

Anders Johnsen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Anders Johnsen

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:06 Jan 1832

Marriage Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Spouse:Marthe Olsdr

FHL Film Number:126586

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009478511

 

Nr. 5 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650433

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Based on the marriage record this is likely the baptism of Anders Johansen.

 

Anders Johansen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Anders Johansen

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:03 Feb 1810

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Jon Andersen

Mother:Anna Waldemarsdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010453260

 

Original record middle right hand page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650029

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

And the same can be done for Martha Olsdatter born about 1808.

 

Martha Olsen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name:Martha Olsen[Martha Jonsen]

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:20 des 1807 (20 Dec 1807)

Baptism Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Father:Ole Jonsen

Mother:Martha Ericsdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010452709

 

Original record is second from bottom on the right hand page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650022

 

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The parents for Anders Johansen are Jon Andersen and Anna Waldemarsdatter. This is probably their marriage.

 

Jon Andersen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Jon Andersen

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:16 Jan 1810

Marriage Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Spouse:Anna Waldemarsdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000002209456

 

Right hand page in the Jan 1810 section 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650051

 

 

Endret Februar 13, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The parents for Martha Olsdatter are Ole Jonsen and Martha Ericsdatter. They married in 1806. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000002209275

 

Middle left page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523650049

[Anton Hagelee]

Anna Waldemarsdatter born about 1785 in the 1801 Census. Working as a servant girl on the Hopperstad farm.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392000161

 

The only Waldemar in the 1801 Census in Vik, Sogn og Fjordane is Waldemar Rasmussen. Wife is Hellebor Knudsdatter. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392000571

 

Based on this Geni.com Tree those are the correct parents of Anna. 

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Anders-Hove/6000000109129346865?through=6000000030918412296

 

You of course have to be careful with online ancestry trees, but this one does use some sources. And we can check some of his tree to see if we can also find some records that allow us to determine the accuracy of at least some of the tree.

 

 

 

Endret Februar 14, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Anna Valdemarsdtr Vikøyri 

Norwegian: Anna Valdemarsdatter Vikøyri

Gender:Female 

Birth:1782 
Vikøyri, Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway

Death:1855 (72-73) 
Vikøyri, Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway

 

Following the Geni.com Tree has Anna born in 1782. Not quite correct. She is found baptized  in 1783. Bottom of the right hand page. Her father is Waldemar Rasmussen and the mother looks like Hallbor Knuds? (a little hard to read the mothers name). The date is probably June 30, 1783. Farm is Wigøren.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523640581

 

 

Endret Februar 14, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The Geni.com Tree has no sources for her husband Jon Andersen but does have this conclusion about him. Rough translation.

 

Jon Andersson Vikøyri 

Norwegian: Jon Anderson

Gender:Male 

Birth:1783 
Vikøyri, Vik, Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway

Death:1849 (65-66) 
Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway

 

"Jon is not registered in the church records at birth, nor at the census in 1801. He was born around 1783, and the church records for that period are lost in the fire. It is said in the family that he studied carpentry in Bergen, so he may have been there in 1801.

It is nevertheless reasonably certain that he is the son of Anders Jonson and Margareta Andersdtr, since he had daughters named Margareta (which was an unusual name in Vik) and his siblings were witnesses to his children's baptisms."

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Jon-Vikøyri/6000000030917801744?through=6000000030918412296

 

 

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Endret Februar 14, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

https://www.geni.com/people/Jon-Hove-d-e/6000000053269460047?through=6000000030918205126

 

In the Geni.com tree the parents of Ole Jonsen Hove are Jon Olsen and Marta Salomonsdatter. This is likely the marriage of the parents. 

 

Jon Olsen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name:Jon Olsen

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:14 Jun 1776

Marriage Place:Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway

Spouse:Marta Salomonsdr

FHL Film Number:126585

 

Original record is right hand page about the middle.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070523640521

 

Jon Olson Hove (Howe) and wife Marta Salomonsdatter and children  in the 1801 Census.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392001388

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 14, 2022 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

In the Geni.com Tree the wife of Jon Olson Hove is Marta Eriiksdatter. Her parents are Eirik Olson Hoppestad and Marta Nilsdatter. 

 

Here they are in the 1801 Census. Husband, wife and several  children. 

 

Eirik Olsen 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058392000214

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Februar 14, 2022 av Anton Hagelee