Ancestors of Gulbrand Pederson Burhol abt 1804 • Høland, Akershus and Susanna Maria Hansdatter 25 FEB 1804 • Høland, Akershus

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is a link to the wedding of the couple, Nr 15 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030040642

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009812005

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009861569

 

I am trying to take this family line back as far as I can so I would also like to know if there is a Bygdebok that covers this parish. 

 

 

Endret August 1, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

This is likely the baptism record for Susanna. Nr 32.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010237

 

This might be the baptism record of Gulbrand but I have not been able to find the original.

 

Gulbrand Pedersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Detail Source

NameGulbrand Pedersen

GenderMale

Baptism Date27. mar 1803 (27 Mar 1803)

Baptism Place, Asker, Akershus, Norway

FatherPeder Larsen

MotherAnne Svendsdr

FHL Film Number123213

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6313846:60092?ssrc=pt&tid=192394227&pid=352511650819

 

Maybe the Gulbrand, last name on left page

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061114010341

 

 

Endret August 1, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Matthias Kolberg]

Here is the probate index card for Gulbrands father

Nedre Romerike sorenskriveri, SAO/A-10469/H, 1680-1828, s. 3749
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk11216061303749

 

husband of Christine Christensdatter and father of Gulbrand and Peder
 

Peder Larsen apparently died shortly before the birth of Peder Jr

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/267/pg00000002099316

 

Peder Jr's baptism

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000012814471

 

Peder Jr also died later that year

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/267/pg00000002099391

 

Endret August 1, 2023 av Matthias Kolberg

[Matthias Kolberg]

Parent's marriage in 1804

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002546523

[Matthias Kolberg]

Gulbrands baptism

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000012813435

 

No. 27

Høland prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10346a/F/Fa/L0006: Ministerialbok nr. I 6, 1794-1814, s. 75
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010245


 

[Matthias Kolberg]

From Gårds- og slektshistorie for Høland og Setskog. [Bind] 3

 

[Matthias Kolberg]

[Anton Hagelee]

10 hours ago, Matthias Kolberg said:

Parent's marriage in 1804

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002546523

 

Very helpful Mathias. I seem to have got off track with the parents of Gulbrand. Thanks for getting me back on track. 

Endret August 1, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

2 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

Very helpful Mathias. I seem to have got off track with the parents of Gulbrand. Thanks for getting me back on track

 

For the wife of Gulbrand Pedersen the Bygdebok has Susanna Hansdatter born about 1795. What can you find out about her parents.

 

Burial

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000003359439

[Matthias Kolberg]

1 hour ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

For the wife of Gulbrand Pedersen the Bygdebok has Susanna Hansdatter born about 1795. What can you find out about her parents.

 

Burial

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000003359439

So far, your candidate from Weiby is the closest match I have seen, but I am reluctant to believe she is the right one.

 

According to the marriage record, Susanne’s father was Hans Trosterud. Interestingly, Guldbrand Pedersen’s mother, Christine Christensdatter, remarried Gulbrand Hansen who was the son of Hans Pedersen and Dordi Olsdatter Trosterud/Grepperud. He is the only Hans I have seen at Trosterud, but he is possibly to old to be Susanne’s father, and he is not there in 1801.

 

Hans Pedersen and Dordi had a daughter called Susanne back in 1770.

But this is clearly not the right Susanne

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4YS-2H3

Endret August 1, 2023 av Matthias Kolberg

[Anton Hagelee]

1 hour ago, Matthias Kolberg said:

 

According to the marriage record, Susanne’s father was Hans Trosterud

 

So this must be the marriage record. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009861569

 

Transcription was  a little off. Nr 15

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030040642

 

 

Endret August 1, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

A family that keeps showing up in my searches is Hans Henriksen and Olia Gunnersdatter. Here they are with big family in the 1801 Census.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058219002954

 

datter Ellen in 1802 Nr  69

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010226

 

datter Susanne Nr 32

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010237

 

 

 

 

[Matthias Kolberg]

6 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

A family that keeps showing up in my searches is Hans Henriksen and Olia Gunnersdatter. Here they are with big family in the 1801 Census.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058219002954

 

datter Ellen in 1802 Nr  69

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010226

 

datter Susanne Nr 32

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061030010237

 

The problem with this family is that they lived on Veiby for many years; a ‘husmann’ farm under Skarebøel.

Hans is there for the silver taxation in 1816.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/97/pt00000000209742
 

Susanne’s father is supposedly Hans Trosterud, which does not add up.

 

There could of course be a mistake in the wedding record, or Hans Henriksen moved to Trosterud after 1816.

 

On the other hand, I have not seen Susanne Hansdatter Veiby married to anyone else, which increases the possibility the she was the one on Hornaas in 1829 who married Gulbrand Pedersen Buerhol.

Endret August 2, 2023 av Matthias Kolberg

[Anton Hagelee]

Well it has been a difficult search to find any ancestors of this couple but I do thank you Matthias for your help. I suspect that I would have found very little without your help and was in some danger of going completely off the rails without it. Probably a good time to take a closer look at the data you have found.

 

Here is one. From the bygdebok. I find above that Peder Larsen was born about 1778 på Hornås. I find this candidate from Ancestry.com.

 

Peder Larsen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NamePeder Larsen

GenderMale

Baptism Date31. mai 1778 (31 May 1778)

Baptism PlaceHoland, Akershus, Norway

FatherLars Haagensen

MotherMette Brynildsdr

FHL Film Number123320

Reference ID2:Z2388W

 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/8921998:60092?_phsrc=Yki5&_phstart=successSource&ml_rpos=3&queryId=8f653801b8d59b8a2ded25aae0687997

 

Original about the middle of the left page

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061027040815

 

1801 FT 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058219001326

 

 

 

 

Endret August 3, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

On 8/1/2023 at 2:12 PM, Matthias Kolberg said:

 

According to the marriage record, Susanne’s father was Hans Trosterud.

 

Here is an  interesting tree on Geni.com that I  stumbled on late at night. I have not had a chance to look it over but it seems to have a lot of the same names we have been discussing. I am always a little dubious of non-sourced trees but it might be worth a longer look. 

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Susanne-Gullberg/6000000015371512194

 

Susanne Hansdatter Gullberg 

Gender:	Female
Birth:	1802
Death:	1875 (72-73)  Gullberg av Hornås, Høland, Akershus, Norway
Immediate Family:	Daughter of Hans Larsen Hemingby and Kirstine Andersdatter Soot  Wife of Gulbrand Pedersen Hornås

[Matthias Kolberg]

There is a Hans Larsen Trosterud buried in Aurskog 15. December 1844, #61, as mentioned in the Geni tree.

 

Aurskog prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10304a/F/Fa/L0006: Ministerialbok nr. I 6, 1829-1853, s. 387
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060314010382

 

Reserve Dragun Hans Larsen Hemmingbye is the named father of Anne (!?) Marie, baptized on 24 January 1802, bottom left page. Mother is Kristine Andersdatter Riishagen

Aurskog prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10304a/F/Fa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. I 3, 1767-1807, s. 124
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060314021144
 

Could this be Susanne? She was named Susanne Marie in the wedding record.

[Anton Hagelee]

16 minutes ago, Matthias Kolberg said:

There is a Hans Larsen Trosterud buried in Aurskog 15. December 1844, #61, as mentioned in the Geni tree.

 

And some information from a thread on Slekt og Data.

 

Re: Suanna Marie hansdatter, hvem er foreldrene ?

•  

Legg inn av Gunnar Østegården » 8. august 2013 kl. 14.48

Jeg vet ikke hvor og når Susanne Hansdatter er født, men jeg tror hun er datter til Hans Larsen Hemingby (f. 2 jul 1777) og hustru Kristine Andersdatter Soot (f. 1781) de giftet seg i Aurskog 16 okt 1803. 
De bodde visstnok på Rødtvedt i Aker, men har kanskje også bodd på Trosterud under Haneborg i Aurskog. Der bodde i alle fall senere deres sønn Kristian Hansen (ca 1810 - 1887) og hans familie. 
Sønnen Lars Hansen (f. ca 1809) ble husmann på Sterkerud u Haneborg. 
(Kilde: stort sett bygdeboka for Aurskog)

 

https://slektogdata.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=118489

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

19 minutes ago, Matthias Kolberg said:

Could this be Susanne? She was named Susanne Marie in the wedding record.

 

 

Well there are others who also came to that conclusion in the Slekt og Data Thread

 

Kan det være Susanne Marie som ved dåpen står som Anne Maria? døpt 24/1 1802 i Aurskog 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-153 
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 021144.jpg

[Matthias Kolberg]

17 minutes ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

 

Well there are others who also came to that conclusion in the Slekt og Data Thread

 

Kan det være Susanne Marie som ved dåpen står som Anne Maria? døpt 24/1 1802 i Aurskog 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-153 
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 021144.jpg

Yes, this must be her.

 

See the confirmation record where she is named Susanne Marie Hansdatter Riishagen. She moved from Aurskog to Buerhol in Høland just before the wedding in 1829

 

From the Slekt og data post:

 

Innflyttet til Høland fra Aurskog 15/7 1829 Susanne Hansdt nr6 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-304 
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 010017.jpg 

Utflyttet fra Aurskog til Høland Susanne Marie Hansdt nr 24 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-322 
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 040012.jpg 

Susanne Marie Hansdt konfirmert i1819 i Aurskog nr 7 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-277 
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 020240.jpg 
 

Endret August 3, 2023 av Matthias Kolberg

[Anton Hagelee]

Then this must be the Ancestry.com version of your post https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060314021144

 

Anne Maria Hansen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Detail Source

NameAnne Maria Hansen[Anne Maria Larsen]

GenderFemale

Baptism Date24. jan 1802 (24 Jan 1802)

Baptism Place, Aurskog, Akershus, Norway

FatherHans Larsen

MotherKristine Andersdr

FHL Film Number123209

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6722692:60092?_phsrc=aox7&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=ann*&ml_rpos=5&queryId=2df1f525bc1288bd8e979f6c2da25abd

Endret August 3, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Matthias Kolberg]

Here is the baptism of Susanne’s brother, Christian in 1804:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000010448585

 

And later marriage to Gunhild Halvorsdatter in 1835. Father Hans Trosterud. #5:

Aurskog prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10304a/F/Fa/L0006: Ministerialbok nr. I 6, 1829-1853, s. 263
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060314010260
 

This couple is mentioned as farmers on Trosterud in the Aurskog bygdebok. Kristian was not originally from Østre Aker (Oslo), as indicated here, but may have served there as a soldier. He was a Jæger at his wedding.