Can anyone help?

[Robert Anderson]

Looking for maybe someone who is English speaking that can help me trace any information about my Norwegian ancestors. Hit a wall when I traced my family to Norway. Thank you in advance

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

Most participants here can read and write English.  Just present your problem.

Attach as much information and context as you have.

[Robert Anderson]

Ancestors.com got me to the point where my ancestors emigrated from Norway to the USA. My great great great grandfather, Henry Anderson, his wife Ellen Anderson and their son Seymore Anderson emigrated from Norway around 1850. Seymore at that time was around 6 years old. I can’t find any information about them during their time in Norway. 

[Ivar S. Ertesvåg]

51 minutter siden, Robert Anderson skrev:

Ancestors.com got me to the point where my ancestors emigrated from Norway to the USA. My great great great grandfather, Henry Anderson, his wife Ellen Anderson and their son Seymore Anderson emigrated from Norway around 1850. Seymore at that time was around 6 years old. I can’t find any information about them during their time in Norway. 

They might be easier to trace and verify if you know

- (approximately or accurately) the year (and date) of birth of "Henry" (probably Henrik in Norway) and Ellen

- how wide "around 1850" is  (+/- 1, 5, 10 years?)

- where they immigrated and settled

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Ivar S. Ertesvåg

[Jackie K Marler]

This one?

Name	Henry Anderson
Sex	Male
Age	70
Birth Year (Estimated)	1810
Birthplace	Norway
Marital Status	Married
Occupation	Farmer
Race	White
Ethnicity	American
Relationship to Head of Household

Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1880
Event Place	Marlette, Sanilac, Michigan, United States
Event Place (Original)	Marlette, ED 340, Sanilac, MI, United States
Household Identifier	7595024
Person Number	0
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	195
Volume	2
Affiliate Publication Number	T9
Affiliate Name	The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

 

Henry Anderson's Spouses and Children

 

Ellen Anderson

Wife

F

68

Norway

 

Probably this Henry in FAG:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164221498/henry-anderson

 

And probably this Ellen in FAG:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164221486/ellen-anderson

Endret September 4, 2023 av Jackie K Marler

[Jackie K Marler]

You mentioned Seymour Anderson, this one?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164166875/seymour-anderson

 

On his death certificate at michiganology.com his parents are listed as Henry  Anderson and Ellen Anderson, all three born in Norway, Seymour 20 Sept 1845

 

This abstraction of the death certificate info at familysearch.org

Name	Seymour Anderson
Sex	Male
Age	80
Marital Status	Married
Father's Name	Henry Anderson
Mother's Name	Ellen Anderson
Event Type	Death
Event Date	02 May 1926
Event Place	Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States
Birth Date	20 Sep 1845
Birthplace	Norway
Birth Year (Estimated)	1846

 

Seymour Anderson's Parents and Siblings

 

Henry Anderson

Father

M

 

 

 

Ellen Anderson

Mother

F

 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Jackie K Marler

[Anton Hagelee]

36 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

This one?

Name	Henry Anderson
Sex	Male
Age	70
Birth Year (Estimated)	1810

 

This Seymore Anderson fits the birth place and approximate birth year as posted above by the Original Poster.. It also fits the county where Henry Anderson  lives in the record posted above by Jackie K Marler. 

 

Seymore Anderson

in the 1880 United States Federal Census

NameSeymore Anderson

Age36

Birth DateAbt 1844

BirthplaceNorway

Home in 1880Marlette, Sanilac, Michigan, USA

Dwelling Number119

RaceWhite

GenderMale

Relation to Head of HouseSelf (Head)

Marital StatusMarried

Spouse's NameMartha Anderson

Father's BirthplaceNorway

Mother's BirthplaceNor

OccupationFarmer

NeighborsView others on page

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Seymore Anderson36Self (Head)

Martha Anderson35Wife

Ralph Anderson14Son

John F. Anderson12Son

Eva Anderson9Daughter

Eliza J. Anderson7Daughter

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/31997287:6742?ssrc=pt&tid=7116439&pid=110060523555

 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW3X-LH3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Robert Anderson]

This would be the correct Seymore. The Henry you posted, I’m not completely sure. 

[Anton Hagelee]

Note the 1880 Census Record posted above has a large number of  US sources for this man, as well as Norwegian Records in his Family Tree. Remains to be seen if the Tree is correct? The birth record from the Family Tree does not quite match the birth record from the Death Certificate posted by Jackie above. 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/96J7-TF8

 

SeymourAnderson

Male1845–192696J7-TF8

 

 

Sources (21)

Memories (0)

 

 

VIEW PERSON

 

VIEW TREE

 

Vitals

Birth • 8 Sources

6 Oct 1845Eidskog, Hedmark, Norge

Christening • 3 Sources

9 Nov 1845Vinger, Hedmark, Norway

 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Robert Anderson]

Ivar, there is the problem. The information that I posted in the original thread is all the info that ancestry gave me. I do know they settled in the Marlette area of Michigan. I knew it was a long shot with what little info I have

[Jackie K Marler]

Okay.  Here is a family tree at familysearch with Seymour Anderson and it says his parents are Hans Arneson and Eli Syvertsdatter:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/96J7-TF8

 

I see Anton already got after it.

Endret September 4, 2023 av Jackie K Marler

[Anton Hagelee]

Syver

Birth • Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927

 

NameSyver

SexMale

Birth Date6 Oct 1845

Father's NameHans Arnesen

Father's SexMale

Mother's NameEli Syversdr

Mother's SexFemale

Event TypeChristening

Event Date9 Nov 1845

Event PlaceVinger, Hedemarkens Amt, Norway

Event Place (Original)Vinger, Hedmark, Norway

Syver's Parents and Siblings

OPEN ALL

Hans Arnesen

Father

M

Eli Syversdr

Mother

F

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWNJ-KPJ

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Syver Hanssen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameSyver Hanssen

GenderMale

Birth Date6. okt 1845 (6 Oct 1845)

Baptism Date9. nov 1845 (9 Nov 1845)

Baptism PlaceVinger, Hedmark, Norway

FatherHans Arnesen

MotherEli Syversdr

FHL Film Number124483

Reference ID2:1G15522

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/10875551:60092?_phsrc=JIS8&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=syver&ml_rpos=1&queryId=1cf4c8a6d51ebe146ca05252b759de51

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Norwegian Record 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000037304972

 

Original Record is Nr 262

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603190117

 

 

 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

This is likely Seymore in the 1870 Census. Not living with his parents at this time. 

 

Seymour Anderson

in the 1870 United States Federal Census

NameSeymour Anderson

Age in 187024

Birth Dateabt 1846

BirthplaceNorway

Dwelling Number10

Home in 1870Marlette, Sanilac, Michigan

RaceWhite

GenderMale

Post OfficeNewman

OccupationFarmer

Father of Foreign BirthYes

Mother of Foreign BirthYes

Attended SchoolYes

Real Estate Value300

Inferred SpouseMartin Anderson

Inferred ChildrenJohn AndersonSeymour Anderson

Household Members (Name)Age

Seymour Anderson24

Martin Anderson22

John Anderson3

Seymour Anderson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/25252264:7163

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Hans Arnesen and Eli Syversdatter also had a child Andreas in 1843.

 

Andreas Hansen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameAndreas Hansen

GenderMale

Birth Date24. jun 1842 (24 Jun 1842)

Baptism Date11. des 1842 (11 Dec 1842)

Baptism PlaceVinger, Hedmark, Norway

FatherHans Arnesen

MotherEli Syversdr

FHL Film Number124483

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/285592:60092?_phsrc=uAq2&_phstart=successSource&ml_rpos=4&queryId=317ed7581f0aa41c31b14edd096c7414

 

 

[Robert Anderson]

Anton, this would be the correct Seymore I believe. I have quite a bit of information about him after his arrival in the United States. My problem is getting any information about him and his parents when they still lived in Norway before they emigrated. Ancestry.com has very little information on Norwegian genealogy.

[Jackie K Marler]

Okay

 

Here is US Federal Homesteads in Sanilac county to people whose last name is Anderson:

Accession	Names	Date	Doc #	State	Meridian	Twp - Rng	Aliquots	Sec. #	County
MW-0200-311	ANDERSON, HENRY, SWARTWOUT, OLIVE, SWARTWOUT, AUGUSTUS	2/15/1860	43349	MI	Michigan-Toledo Strip	014N - 015E	NE¼	1	Sanilac
MI0960__.096	ANDERSON, HENRY	5/9/1859	32588	MI	Michigan-Toledo Strip	011N - 012E	W½NW¼	21	Sanilac

Endret September 4, 2023 av Jackie K Marler

[Anton Hagelee]

This might be the parents of both Seymour and Andreas (Andrew ) in the 1860 Census. Andrew or Andreas is living with the parents and Alice is Eli Syversdatter? And Hans Arnesen is Hans Anderson and probably later Henry Anderson. 

 

Hans Anderson

in the 1860 United States Federal Census\

NameHans Anderson

Age45

Birth Yearabt 1815

GenderMale

RaceWhite

Birth PlaceNorway

Home in 1860Marlette, Sanilac, Michigan

Post OfficeAllison

Dwelling Number1364

Family Number1304

OccupationFarmer

Real Estate Value300

Personal Estate Value100

Inferred SpouseAlice Anderson

Inferred ChildAndrew AndersonMartin Anderson

Household Members (Name)Age

Hans Anderson45

Alice Anderson42

Andrew Anderson17

Martin Anderson8

John Anderson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/44741726:7667

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Matthias Kolberg]

Hans Arnesen Kapstad, Hustru (Wife) Eli Syversdatter, Søn Andreas, Søn Syver, Søn Martin and ”Mandens uægte Dtr” (the husband’s illegitimate daughter) Maren

 

#40-45, right column

 

left Eidskog for America May 10, 1853

 

Vinger prestekontor, SAH/PREST-024/H/Ha/Haa/L0009: Parish register (official) no. 9, 1847-1855, p. 465
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124320682
 

 

Endret September 4, 2023 av Matthias Kolberg

[Robert Anderson]

Anton, from everything I’ve learned, Seymore was the only child of Henry and Ellen Anderson. 

[Jostein Stokke]

Hans Arnesen and Eli Syversdatter - at Nordre Kapstad in Eidskog.

[Jostein Stokke]

Hans Arnesen's parents were Arne Kristiansen ( 1789- 1841) and Sigri Amundsdatter Kapstadkøyen (1795 - 1877) married in 1825.

 

Arne Kristiansen's parents were Kristian Embretsen ( - 1811) and Lisbeth Johansdtr ( - 1809)

 

Sigrid Amundsatter's family

 

Eidskog Bygdebok B.3

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2015020426004?page=461

 

 

[Jostein Stokke]

Eli Syversdatter Torp

 

Her parents were Syver Olsen Koksberget (1787- 1862) and Mari Olsdatter N. Berger (born Kapstad) - (1777-1845) married 1807

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2015020426004?page=477

[Jackie K Marler]

1860 census #11-15:

 

1870 census Sanilac county Michigan Marlette:

 

Here is an avenue which if you explore might allow you to accept the Henry / Ellen Anderson as the same people as Hans Anderson and Alice Anderson.  In the 1860 and 1870 censuses there was a question about the $ value of your real estate and personal property.  In 1860 Hans says he has $300 worth of real estate.  In the 1870 census Henry has none, but Andrew Anderson has $500.  It might become clear if you find that Hans Anderson sold his land to Andrew Anderson between 1860-1870 or if land purchased under the name Hans Anderson was sold under the name of Henry Anderson.  This is work that would have to be done at the Sanilac county courthouse.

Endret September 4, 2023 av Jackie K Marler