Soneve Pedersen

[Mitch Rognholt]

Hello,

 

I am seeking information regarding my ancestor (Soneve Pedersen, Birth: Dec 1829 in Norway) . The 1900 US census lists her as a widow and her husband Lars Hoff was also born in Norway but no year listed. They had at least one son, Otto Hoff (born Jan 1873 in Norway). She immigrated from Norway in 1891.

 

Any information would be greatly appreciated about where they lived in Norway, other Norwegian Ancestors, immigration details, etc.

 

Thanks!!

[Kristian_Vestli]

This is probably the baptism record for Otto:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131660672

 

(and a transcription: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000028559428)

 

The mother's name is transcribed wrong: the original says Sønnov. 

 

The record states that Otto is born January 6th, and baptised February 9th 1873 in Lillehammer church (The L at the beginning of the road gives the specific church within the parish.) The parents are tenant farmer Lars Kristiansen and wife Sønnov Pedersdatter under the farm Søndre Hoff. (It was quite common to take your farm name as last name during this era.) Lars is 47 years old, and Sønnov is 44. They were married in 1852.

 

This is the marriage record (line 13): https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8934/266

And transcription: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009117801 (again with some mistakes)

 

They were married June 3rd 1852 in Fåberg parish (same as for Otto's baptism). 

 

He is listed as Soldier Lars Christianssøn (Alternativ spelling of Kristiansen). Birthplace is the farm Aule, and at the time of marriage he is at Nedre(?) Traasæter. He is 25 years old. Sønnov Pedersdatter is listed as 23 years old from Berg.

 

Here is a transcription of the family at the census is 1865: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038065005760

They are living at the tenant farm Hoffslien øvre, which is under the farm Hoff Søndre. They have had 5 sons so far.

 

Kind regards,

Kristian 

 

 

[Kristian_Vestli]

And here is the family in 1875: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052095000518

[Kristian_Vestli]

Here is Sønnøv (new spelling again) in 1891. The son, Kristian, no is the main farmer with his wife and their children. Sønnøv is listed as married, not widow.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052763000406

[Kristian_Vestli]

The grave is Westby, Wisconsin: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93369254/lars-c-hoff

 

Which then makes it probable that this is the emigration record in Oslo of Lars:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000027676

 

He leaves on the ship Rollo on May 9th 1890. And the final goal is Westby.

[Kristian_Vestli]

Otto travels on the same ship: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000027677

 

This is my best guess for Synøve: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000475219

and Otto's sister Kristine: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000475220

even though their given age is quite off.

[Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken]

Lars Kristiansen og Otto Kristiansen  i Oslo Politiets Emigrant Protokoll ut fra Oslo 9 mai 1890 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/626134:61757?tid=&pid=&queryId=8832523c-5447-42d4-bfab-24a5fb3929df&_phsrc=LIc561&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61757/images/61757_b1059889-00511?usePUB=true&_phsrc=LIc561&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=626134

 

Synnøve Kristiansen  og datteren Kristine Kristiansen  i Oslo Politiets Emigrant Protokoll ut fra Oslo 29 mai 1891 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/635207:61757?tid=&pid=&queryId=da84e31e-ac96-4aed-9e38-9cba862f2444&_phsrc=LIc555&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61757/images/61757_b1059890-00242?usePUB=true&_phsrc=LIc555&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=635207

 

 

 

 

[Mitch Rognholt]

Thank you very much Kristian_Vestli and Bjørn A Løkken. This information is exactly what I was looking for and am excited to share it with my family. I'm very impressed and grateful for the time you took to research this for us. 

 

I do see in the 1900 US Census for my Grandmother (Clara Hoff) who was 4 years old at the time that the family was living in Westby, Wisconsin which matches with the information you provided.  

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM2J-QK1

 

The family went by the last name of Hoff in America, which makes sense given the farm name Søndre Hoff you provided Kristian. 

 

Many thanks for this information!

Tusen takk!

[Anton Hagelee]

6 hours ago, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken said:

Synnøve Kristiansen  og datteren Kristine Kristiansen  i Oslo Politiets Emigrant Protokoll ut fra Oslo 29 mai 1891 

 

Arrival 

 

Synone Kristiansen

in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1798-1962

NameSynone Kristiansen

GenderFemale

Arrival Age50

Birth Dateabt 1841

Departure PlaceLiverpool, England

Arrival Date16 Jun 1891

Arrival PlacePhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

ShipBritish Prince

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/135118:8769?tid=&pid=&queryId=7b15b127-8342-407f-8bd5-5e1fecacf227&_phsrc=Vxl5&_phstart=successSource

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Nr 246

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Lars and Otto 

 

Lars Kristerson

in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1798-1962

NameLars Kristerson

GenderMale

Arrival Age60

Birth Dateabt 1830

Arrival Date28 May 1890

Arrival PlacePhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

ShipLord Gough

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/105659:8769?tid=&pid=&queryId=c1a8a586-a92a-4600-ba2f-9c10c5cc3722&_phsrc=Vxl7&_phstart=successSource

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Nr 361 and 362

 

[Mitch Rognholt]

3 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

Lars Kristerson

in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1798-1962

NameLars Kristerson

GenderMale

Arrival Age60

Birth Dateabt 1830

Arrival Date28 May 1890

Arrival PlacePhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

ShipLord Gough

Thank you Anton! 

 

[Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken]

Lars Christiansen birth 21 june 1827 at the upsitter place / crofters place Huse farm in Faaberg in Oppland County and baptizm 24 june 1827 Lars's  parents ; Christian Huse and wife Mari . No patronymikon on them . 

 

Nr 48 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630623

Transkribert https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000038348693

 

This is the best candiate to Lars Christiansen parents . This because of the use of the name / patronymikon . Norwegian name traditions . If Lars was their first born son it was naturally that he was named up after his grandfather who in this case was a Lars since his father was a Christian Larsen . 

 

Lars Christiansen parents fully name was ; Bachelor Christian Larsen living at Hovsveen ( Åsheim ) farm in Øyer in Fåberg and Servantgirl Mari Haagensdatter living at the Bjørstad farm in Fåberg  ( 1 norwegian kilometer from where i grow up 🙂 ) 

 

Wedding nr 27 right side https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630731 

Transkribert https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009010364  Niels Olsen Bjørstad and Johan Olsen Hovsveen is NOT their parent's as the transcripton says , but they are the witness . 

 

Synnøve ( Sønnøve ) Pedersdatter birth 26 desember 1829 below the farm Fliflet in Fåberg in Oppland , and baptizm 29 desember . Synnøve's parents : Peder Fliflet and wife Karen . No patronymikon on them 

 

Nr 8 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630675 

Transkribert ( Wrong farm name ) https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000038212212

 

Synnøve Pedersdatter parent's is one of this two ; 

 

Nr 1 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009010484 Peder Pedersen Sætherengen and Karen Hansdatter Sæther 

 

Nr 2 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009010105  Peder Olsen Prestegården and Karen Olsdatter . This Karen is named as Høchlien ( = Hauklien med Stræte farm ) in Fåberg . 

 

The other names in this transcription is the names of the witness and NOT their parents . 

 

It is possible to find Synnøves parent's if you follow their children to candidate 1 and 2 . The cause to this problem is that they did not use patronymikon on the parents when their children birth was written into the protocolls , just farm names , and many of them moved around from farm to farm as uppsitters / crofters . This was typical for the church books for Fåberg at this time . 

 

Church books 1700 - 1900 for the Fåberg area . 

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb/browse?counties[]=05&clerical_parishes[]=0524P&parishes[]=0524S1&parishes[]=0501S1&parishes[]=0524S3&parishes[]=0524S4&start_year=1700&end_year=1900&text=

 

List over farms in Lillehammer and Fåberg https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_over_gårder_i_Lillehammer

 

I attched a map for you which shows an overview of farms in Fåberg in 1578 and forward towards our time . 

 

Good luck 🙂

Endret April 4 av Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken

[Mitch Rognholt]

2 hours ago, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken said:

Lars Christiansen parents fully name was ; Bachelor Christian Larsen living at Hovsveen ( Åsheim ) farm in Øyer in Fåberg and Servantgirl Mari Haagensdatter living at the Bjørstad farm in Fåberg  ( 1 norwegian kilometer from where i grow up 🙂 ) 

Thank you so much for this information. It is very interesting and I am grateful for you sharing this with me.

 

Is this the location of the Bjørstad farm? We are planning our first visit to Norway in September and would love to visit this area where my ancestors lived. It looks like such a beautiful area, I wonder why they ever left, but it was a different time.