Oscar Francis Hallett born in Bergen Norway 27th November 1891. Mother was Mary Christianson & Father was Carl Oscar Hallett

[Jackie K Marler]

3 hours ago, ChristineH said:

 

What the record is, is a parish record of  Frants Oskar Ellingson's departure from the parish of Skoger in Vestfold, Norway.  The reason it's so difficult to read is the book was damaged in some fashion and made those entries hard to read. 

[Christine Hallett]

2 hours ago, Jackie K Marler said:

What the record is, is a parish record of  Frants Oskar Ellingson's departure from the parish of Skoger in Vestfold, Norway.  The reason it's so difficult to read is the book was damaged in some fashion and made those entries hard to read. 

Thank you, I very much appreciate your efforts 🙂 

[Inger Hohler]

The ship's record for Orontes in 1912 undoubtably shows a Hallett, but I'm unsure about the initial before his name. It does not scream 'O' to me. This sailor has the right age, but the records say he was  born in Ldn, I think. And expect that means London.

[Ivar Moe]

The National Archives

 

Search results: Hallett | The National Archives

 

Search results: Hallett charles | The National Archives

Endret August 19 av Ivar Moe

[Christine Hallett]

1 hour ago, Inger Hohler said:

The ship's record for Orontes in 1912 undoubtably shows a Hallett, but I'm unsure about the initial before his name. It does not scream 'O' to me. This sailor has the right age, but the records say he was  born in Ldn, I think. And expect that means London.

It looks like an F to me for Francis/Frank and yes agreed it means London and was thinking perhaps they put where he left from? so many maybes? So confusing? Thanks 🙂 

[Christine Hallett]

43 minutes ago, Ivar Moe said:

The National Archives

 

Search results: Hallett | The National Archives

 

Search results: Hallett charles | The National Archives

Thankyou, I will be going through the NAA archives for Charles/Carl Hallett again, I did obtain a record from there in office for Oscar Francis with his fingerprint stamped on it by the police when he had to complete a report for not registering as an alien upon arrival 🙂 

Endret August 19 av ChristineH

[Christine Hallett]

1 minute ago, ChristineH said:

Thankyou, I will be going through the NAA archives for Charles/Carl Hallett again, I did obtain a record from there in office for Oscar Francis with his fingerprint stamped on it by the police In 1918 when he had to complete a report for not registering as an alien upon arrival 🙂 

 

[Christine Hallett]

On 8/18/2024 at 2:08 PM, Jackie K Marler said:

#36698 death:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996P-KZJ2?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ACJXH-KQT2&action=view

Thank you, 

[Christine Hallett]

On 8/18/2024 at 9:00 AM, Ivar Moe said:

Ivar S Ertesvåg is very welcome here. Surname use. The tail from Kristiansund. (expert)

 

I hope he stops by

Sorry, I'm not sure what this means? Thanks 

 

 

On 8/18/2024 at 9:00 AM, Ivar Moe said:

Ivar S Ertesvåg is very welcome here. Surname use. The tail from Kristiansund. (expert)

 

I hope he stops by

 

[Christine Hallett]

Hi All, I am still no closer to finding my Ancestry.

All his unsupported documentation in Australia lead back to born on 27th Nov 1891 in Bergen, Norway.

He states he was Norwegian and his mother was Norwegian and his father was from USA. 

I have done a search of all males born on this date and came up with 80 hits. I am finding it impossible to understand the documents and translating doesn't help at all.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&lt[]=dp&firstname=&lastname=&genders[]=m&birth_year_from=1891&birth_year_to=1891&birth_date=11-27&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel

 

He stated after leaving Norway he worked on ships and steamers for approx 7 years before arriving in Australia in April 1910. The closest match I can find is F Hallett arriving in Aus in 1912 from London. This would mean he was only around 13yo when he left Norway.

A relative recalls his son saying something about Oscar Francis Hallett (aka Frank) having to leave Norway urgently? He also had an artificial eye which raises questions as to how this happened.

I really hope someone can help me as its something that is really bothering me.

Thanks again for all your help 🙂

Endret September 6 av Christine Hallett

[Anton Hagelee]

On 8/17/2024 at 9:35 PM, Christine Hallett said:

So I am thinking the possibility of Frederick Hallett as listed in Norway census from Hull England could possibly be the mysterious Carl/Charles Hallett noted by Oscar Francis for some reason? Maybe because he left Norway so young he may have been confused???

 

Reading over the pages again it seems that this man is the best fit with what you know of the father of Oscar Francis Hallett. You probably need to adopt a perhaps "some of the information I have on Oscar Francis is incorrect"

as nothing seems to fit perfectly or even very closely,

 

Most likely this man from a Tree on Ancestry.com.  is the Frederick Hallett as it matches with most of the other data found on him and posted in various places on these three pages by Jackie K Marler, Matthias Kolberg and others. 

 

Frederick Charles Hallatt

1864–1899

BIRTH OCTOBER 1864 • Hull, Yorkshire, England

DEATH APRIL 1899 • Hull, Yorkshire East Riding

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/68333174/person/180176386545/facts

 

The 1891 Census lists him as a boarder, occupation shipwright . Unfortunately he died in 1899 so the information on him is slim. I did not find a date when this census was take. His two brothers are sailmaker and apprentice pilot. 

 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/65417:6598?ssrc=pt&tid=68333174&pid=180176386545

 

His father and  his sibling brothers seems to have a strong connection to sea faring occupations. His father is listed as a captain of vessels in the 1871 Census. 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/10102907:7619?ssrc=pt&tid=68333174&pid=180176386070

 

Name	George Hallatt
Age	28
Estimated Birth Year	1843
Relation	Captain
Gender	Male
Where born	Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish	Vessels

 

George Hallatt

1842–1908

BIRTH OCTOBER 1842 • Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

DEATH 15 MAY 1908 • Kinston upon Hull, Yorkshire-East Riding, England

 

 

 

 

Endret September 7 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Now here is a long shot but that's where we are at. Dahl is likely a farm name.  Needs at least to be looked at. 

 

1900 Norwegian Census for Bergen

 Oskar Fredrik Dahl born abt 1889 in Bergen 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037335067499

 

Probably this guy who died in San Francisco. 

 

Wrong guy. This guy is probably 

 

Oscar Fredrik Dahl

1889–1970

BIRTH 13 FEB 1889 • Bergen, Norway

DEATH 27 APR 1970 • San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States of America

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/50562927/person/412103893100/facts

 

Endret September 7 av Anton Hagelee

[Christine Hallett]

Thanks again for your suggestions which I am reviewing. 

I am also thinking of the possibility that perhaps Carl Oscar Hallett could possibly have been born in Norway as there appears to be a lot of Carl Oscar in Norway and that even though Oscar Francis listed his dad as USA nationality that perhaps he migrated to the USA later on? This is just another possibility I am thinking. He also listed his father as an Engineer. 

Could someone please translate the first line right across as name is stated as Carl Oscar (same as noted by my GGF Oscar Francis Hallett) a Norwegian Facebook group translated part of it saying Carl Oscar was put into an orphanage for fostering.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/65550/484?fbclid=IwY2xjawFK7_1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdZUFQBgQAvvOtb_F21pTSEHsRmtdI-DrcoBHatWeypmMgXM8rgQX8e3Fw_aem_WFeDldVDXWyvtkP95mYBCg

 

Also previously I located this for a foster son in a census, could these be the same person? 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052152005909?fbclid=IwY2xjawFK8N1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHSzr4L0BhfNzV2alUK0FXhzGlemt-rEXbYN-oUm_HuyhkQyVNbX8q5PBAg_aem_TBJ95dGbPwKqF9eQwDUYhw

Endret September 8 av Christine Hallett

[Christine Hallett]

Can someone help me with a link to Mormon records (church of latter day saints) as my GGF was Mormon so its possible his parents may have been as well. This may help with finding him. Thanks 

[Jackie K Marler]

www.familysearch.org

[Jackie K Marler]

On 9/7/2024 at 7:06 PM, Christine Hallett said:

Thanks again for your suggestions which I am reviewing. 

I am also thinking of the possibility that perhaps Carl Oscar Hallett could possibly have been born in Norway as there appears to be a lot of Carl Oscar in Norway and that even though Oscar Francis listed his dad as USA nationality that perhaps he migrated to the USA later on? This is just another possibility I am thinking. He also listed his father as an Engineer. 

Could someone please translate the first line right across as name is stated as Carl Oscar (same as noted by my GGF Oscar Francis Hallett) a Norwegian Facebook group translated part of it saying Carl Oscar was put into an orphanage for fostering.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/65550/484?fbclid=IwY2xjawFK7_1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdZUFQBgQAvvOtb_F21pTSEHsRmtdI-DrcoBHatWeypmMgXM8rgQX8e3Fw_aem_WFeDldVDXWyvtkP95mYBCg

 

Also previously I located this for a foster son in a census, could these be the same person? 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052152005909?fbclid=IwY2xjawFK8N1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHSzr4L0BhfNzV2alUK0FXhzGlemt-rEXbYN-oUm_HuyhkQyVNbX8q5PBAg_aem_TBJ95dGbPwKqF9eQwDUYhw

The information is about Carl Oscar's parents:  the unmarried woman named Olava Christine Christiansen who later married Osvald Hellum and they are now in U.S. and the bachelor Haakon Andresen.  Olava is a "frivolous" woman and apparently has two other children with her now husband aged 7 and 3 years.  This Carl Oscar is a "Toftes Gave" child. From the next page in 1898 Carl Oscar was given "reisepenge" travel pay.

 

One of Olava's other children also on care from the social services #1313:

Fattigvesenet, OBA/A-20045/H/Hd/L0007: Manntallsprotokoll. Mnr. 1001-1604, 1897-1910, s. 334
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/od19011200000334

 

Olaf's confirmation: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000002445063

 

Family tree trying to cover Olava's family: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GKMW-N6T

 

 

Endret September 19 av Jackie K Marler

[Christine Hallett]

What does it mean by in 1898 Carl Oscar was given "reisepenger travel pay? 

[Jackie K Marler]

It doesn't say where to or from

[Christine Hallett]

Thank you 🙂