Looking for some family... Olsen/Andersen

[Jackie K Marler]

25 minutes ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

Any named Marie born is Sweden?

born anywhere but living in Fredrikshald, so there are a couple.

[Anton Hagelee]

26 minutes ago, californiapost said:

Marie E. Andersen upon migration to the US via SS. Britannic in 1890, perhaps a trip a couple years before and after.

 

This might be the arrival for her.

 

Marie C Anderson

in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

NameMarie C Anderson

GenderFemale

Ethnicity/ NationalitySwedish

Age24

Birth Dateabt 1866

Place of OriginSweden

Departure PortLiverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland

DestinationUSA

Arrival Date3 May 1890

Arrival PortNew York, New York, USA

Ship NameBritannic

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7488/records/7606907?tid=&pid=&queryId=c6d3e617-1513-4300-98c2-915aa30b29fe&_phsrc=PPo22&_phstart=successSource

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

 

Nota lot of info here 

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[Anton Hagelee]

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[californiapost]

Very hard to read, but looks like it could read Marie E. Andersen... hard to read the age... She dependably listed her age to 8 years difference from Harry... So when he was 40, she was 32 (give or take depending on the birthday fall) This remained constant through all of the censuses I have seen... Furthermore, the headstone reads 1868 as a birth year for Marie E.

[californiapost]

Certainly looks like Marie or Maria "E" Anderson

[Anton Hagelee]

36 minutes ago, californiapost said:

Certainly looks like Marie or Maria "E" Anderson

 

Yes definitely looks like Maria E Andersen or Anderson to me.

[Anton Hagelee]

As far as the other side of your family, I think I have gone as far as I can. I have checked the people in the Family Search Tree  families about as far as I can and will stop with these people. The Family Search Tree does go further than these two families but I can not find any sources for the people and especially their marriages on either Ancestry.com or DA so I will stop at these two families. 

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

The Family Search Tree has Wrold Pedersen born in 1757 but his record in the 1801 Census shows 1754 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058325001445

 

Gunnel at 1755

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058325001446

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Sources for Halvor Gundersen Havstad in the 1801 Census

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058325002763

 

and his wife Inger Helene Willumsdatter 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058325002764

[californiapost]

Thanks everyone, especially Anton Hagelee for the great tips! Appreciate it very much!

[californiapost]

Here is Harry Olsen (Hans Johan Olsen) born 1860 in Arendal. This is my great-great-grandfather on my fathers side.

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[californiapost]

Update! After much searching, I might have figured out who Marie E. Andersen is. Marie E. Andersen was my great-great-grandmother, married to Hans Johan Olsen (picture above.) They had 6 children in Oakland CA. 

 

Here is the link to her profile: Marie Emilie Andersen 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/PM41-F2Y

Here is her father: Andreas Andersen 1829-Deceased KD71-2KY

Here is her mother: Marie Elisabeth Ekeroth 1842-Deceased L26L-9FV

 

So, as thought, she may belong to a Norwegian father, Swedish mother, born in or very near Fredrikshald. It looks like I have traced her mother to western Sweden (Nossemarka), near the border with Norway/Østlandet. Her parents moved back to her home region a few years after her birth. Her and some siblings may have stayed in Norway or traveled together to the US. I have found traces of her coming and going to the US from an early age. I have been hung up on getting her birthdate from any US doc, but they may have never been officially married, can't find a marriage cert. Can't seem to find her immigration or naturalization either, but she may have slipped through the cracks... There are several docs around relating to her confusing immigration/marriage status. 

 

There are other clues as well, but this is the most important part : ) ...I'll relay some more details asap!

 

Cheers all!

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[Anton Hagelee]

It is a difficult task to find anything out about your Marie Anderson born art 1869 and emigrated in 1890 but I wonder if you have looked at this person. Marie Emilie Andersen 

 

Number 62. Leaving for Sweden October  1889 from Fredrikshald Sogn Halden prestegjeld

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060718030047

 

Hard to read the writing in the last column 

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[californiapost]

Yep, that appears to be her, birth year 1868. That puts her as the child of Andreas Anderson and Marie Elisabeth Ekeroth, from the Berg/Laaby/Fhald crowd (father from Fredrikshald and mother from Nossemark Sweden)  ... who also relocated back to Sweden apparently... 

[californiapost]

So at some point the family went back to Sweden, but Marie Emilie seemingly went to work in Norway, and eventually over seas... I have lots of leads in the form of passenger lists and and some immigration related docs... but still can't make the link to her in the US.... more to come : )

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[californiapost]

The last line of that last one was "Berg i Smaaland... something i Fredrikshald..."

 

[Anton Hagelee]

So this family in the 1865 Norwegian Census ?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037987002968

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

1 hour ago, californiapost said:

The last line of that last one was "Berg i Smaaland... something i Fredrikshald..."

 

 

Might be "Berg i Smaaland konfirmed i Fredrikshald?" 29 4 90

 

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

So here is her confirmation Nr 23

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060906020502

 

 

[californiapost]

Yep! All seem like the person I'm following!

[californiapost]

Here are a few leads:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/PMHZ-X4W

[californiapost]

Parents are pegged as Andreas Andersen from Fredrikshald and Marie Elisabeth Ekeroth of Nossemark Sweden... or some variation of spelling of those parents... As you've seen, they all seem to have gone back to Sweden, but I believe she went to work in Norway, and perhaps overseas... Canada, Wis, Minn, Mass, NY, and especially CA are on the radar. Big question is still when and where they were married, or not married at all.. and her actual immigration path/doc... Eventually meeting Harry Olsen either in Norway before hand, or in transit, or in the US somewhere...

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[Anton Hagelee]

Based on the 1900 Census she emigrated in 1890 and he emigrated in 1901, If correct she left Norway/Sweden arrived in Californa about the same time as he did. One would think that she had some reason for going to Californa?

 

Is this their first child

 

Harry Andreas Olsen

in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969

Baptism Age0

Record TypeBaptism

Birth Date5 Oct 1899

Baptism Date24 Dec 1899

Baptism PlaceVarious, California, USA

FatherH J Olsen

MotherMarie Olsen

Church NameCentral Lutheran

Church LocationOakland, California

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60722/records/1322292?tid=&pid=&queryId=80c8570c-df23-4436-8f98-751b245b8789&_phsrc=XRr7&_phstart=successSource

 

 

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